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From: Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Cc: Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Mingming Cao <cmm@us.ibm.com>,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] percpu_counter: Fix __percpu_counter_sum()
Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2008 09:12:52 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <493E2884.6010600@cosmosbay.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1228777500.12729.4.camel@twins>

Peter Zijlstra a écrit :
> On Mon, 2008-12-08 at 18:00 -0500, Theodore Tso wrote:
>> On Mon, Dec 08, 2008 at 11:20:35PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>>> atomic_t is pretty good on all archs, but you get to keep the cacheline
>>> ping-pong.
>>>
>> Stupid question --- if you're worried about cacheline ping-pongs, why
>> aren't each cpu's delta counter cacheline aligned?  With a 64-byte
>> cache-line, and a 32-bit counters entry, with less than 16 CPU's we're
>> going to be getting cache ping-pong effects with percpu_counter's,
>> right?  Or am I missing something?
> 
> sorta - a new per-cpu allocator is in the works, but we do cacheline
> align the per-cpu allocations (or used to), also, the allocations are
> node affine.
> 

I did work on a 'light weight percpu counter', aka percpu_lcounter, for
all metrics that dont need 64 bits wide, but a plain 'long'
(network, nr_files, nr_dentry, nr_inodes, ...)

struct percpu_lcounter {
        atomic_long_t count;
#ifdef CONFIG_SMP
#ifdef CONFIG_HOTPLUG_CPU
        struct list_head list;  /* All percpu_counters are on a list */
#endif
        long *counters;
#endif
};

(No more spinlock)

Then I tried to have atomic_t  (or atomic_long_t) for 'counters', but got a
10% slow down of __percpu_lcounter_add(), even if never hitting the 'slow path'
atomic_long_add_return() is really expensiven, even on a non contended cache
line.

struct percpu_lcounter {
        atomic_long_t count;
#ifdef CONFIG_SMP
#ifdef CONFIG_HOTPLUG_CPU
        struct list_head list;  /* All percpu_counters are on a list */
#endif
        atomic_long_t *counters;
#endif
};

So I believe the percpu_clounter_sum() that tries to reset to 0 all cpu local
 counts would be really too expensive, if it slows down _add() so much.

long percpu_lcounter_sum(struct percpu_lcounter *fblc)
{
        long acc = 0;
        int cpu;

        for_each_online_cpu(cpu)
                acc += atomic_long_xchg(per_cpu_ptr(fblc->counters, cpu), 0);
        return atomic_long_add_return(acc, &fblc->count);
}

void __percpu_lcounter_add(struct percpu_lcounter *flbc, long amount, s32 batch)
{
        long count;
        atomic_long_t *pcount;

        pcount = per_cpu_ptr(flbc->counters, get_cpu());
        count = atomic_long_add_return(amount, pcount); /* way too expensive !!! */
        if (unlikely(count >= batch || count <= -batch)) {
                atomic_long_add(count, &flbc->count);
                atomic_long_sub(count, pcount);
        }
        put_cpu();
}

Just forget about it and let percpu_lcounter_sum() only read the values, and
let percpu_lcounter_add() not using atomic ops in fast path.

void __percpu_lcounter_add(struct percpu_lcounter *flbc, long amount, s32 batch)
{
        long count;
        long *pcount;

        pcount = per_cpu_ptr(flbc->counters, get_cpu());
        count = *pcount + amount;
        if (unlikely(count >= batch || count <= -batch)) {
                atomic_long_add(count, &flbc->count);
                count = 0;
        }
        *pcount = count;
        put_cpu();
}
EXPORT_SYMBOL(__percpu_lcounter_add);


Also, with upcoming NR_CPUS=4096, it may be time to design a hierarchical percpu_counter,
to avoid hitting one shared "fbc->count" all the time a local counter overflows.


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From: Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>
To: Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>
Cc: Theodore Tso <tytso@mit.edu>,
	Andrew Morton <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux kernel <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	"David S. Miller" <davem@davemloft.net>,
	Mingming Cao <cmm@us.ibm.com>,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] percpu_counter: Fix __percpu_counter_sum()
Date: Tue, 09 Dec 2008 09:12:52 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <493E2884.6010600@cosmosbay.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1228777500.12729.4.camel@twins>

Peter Zijlstra a écrit :
> On Mon, 2008-12-08 at 18:00 -0500, Theodore Tso wrote:
>> On Mon, Dec 08, 2008 at 11:20:35PM +0100, Peter Zijlstra wrote:
>>> atomic_t is pretty good on all archs, but you get to keep the cacheline
>>> ping-pong.
>>>
>> Stupid question --- if you're worried about cacheline ping-pongs, why
>> aren't each cpu's delta counter cacheline aligned?  With a 64-byte
>> cache-line, and a 32-bit counters entry, with less than 16 CPU's we're
>> going to be getting cache ping-pong effects with percpu_counter's,
>> right?  Or am I missing something?
> 
> sorta - a new per-cpu allocator is in the works, but we do cacheline
> align the per-cpu allocations (or used to), also, the allocations are
> node affine.
> 

I did work on a 'light weight percpu counter', aka percpu_lcounter, for
all metrics that dont need 64 bits wide, but a plain 'long'
(network, nr_files, nr_dentry, nr_inodes, ...)

struct percpu_lcounter {
        atomic_long_t count;
#ifdef CONFIG_SMP
#ifdef CONFIG_HOTPLUG_CPU
        struct list_head list;  /* All percpu_counters are on a list */
#endif
        long *counters;
#endif
};

(No more spinlock)

Then I tried to have atomic_t  (or atomic_long_t) for 'counters', but got a
10% slow down of __percpu_lcounter_add(), even if never hitting the 'slow path'
atomic_long_add_return() is really expensiven, even on a non contended cache
line.

struct percpu_lcounter {
        atomic_long_t count;
#ifdef CONFIG_SMP
#ifdef CONFIG_HOTPLUG_CPU
        struct list_head list;  /* All percpu_counters are on a list */
#endif
        atomic_long_t *counters;
#endif
};

So I believe the percpu_clounter_sum() that tries to reset to 0 all cpu local
 counts would be really too expensive, if it slows down _add() so much.

long percpu_lcounter_sum(struct percpu_lcounter *fblc)
{
        long acc = 0;
        int cpu;

        for_each_online_cpu(cpu)
                acc += atomic_long_xchg(per_cpu_ptr(fblc->counters, cpu), 0);
        return atomic_long_add_return(acc, &fblc->count);
}

void __percpu_lcounter_add(struct percpu_lcounter *flbc, long amount, s32 batch)
{
        long count;
        atomic_long_t *pcount;

        pcount = per_cpu_ptr(flbc->counters, get_cpu());
        count = atomic_long_add_return(amount, pcount); /* way too expensive !!! */
        if (unlikely(count >= batch || count <= -batch)) {
                atomic_long_add(count, &flbc->count);
                atomic_long_sub(count, pcount);
        }
        put_cpu();
}

Just forget about it and let percpu_lcounter_sum() only read the values, and
let percpu_lcounter_add() not using atomic ops in fast path.

void __percpu_lcounter_add(struct percpu_lcounter *flbc, long amount, s32 batch)
{
        long count;
        long *pcount;

        pcount = per_cpu_ptr(flbc->counters, get_cpu());
        count = *pcount + amount;
        if (unlikely(count >= batch || count <= -batch)) {
                atomic_long_add(count, &flbc->count);
                count = 0;
        }
        *pcount = count;
        put_cpu();
}
EXPORT_SYMBOL(__percpu_lcounter_add);


Also, with upcoming NR_CPUS=4096, it may be time to design a hierarchical percpu_counter,
to avoid hitting one shared "fbc->count" all the time a local counter overflows.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2008-12-09  8:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 52+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2008-12-03 18:40 [PATCH] percpu_counter: fix CPU unplug race in percpu_counter_destroy() Eric Dumazet
2008-12-03 20:24 ` [PATCH] percpu_counter: Fix __percpu_counter_sum() Eric Dumazet
2008-12-03 20:45   ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-12-04  6:14   ` David Miller
2008-12-07  4:22   ` Andrew Morton
2008-12-07  4:22     ` Andrew Morton
2008-12-07 10:25     ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-12-07 13:28     ` Eric Dumazet
2008-12-07 13:28       ` Eric Dumazet
2008-12-07 17:28       ` Andrew Morton
2008-12-07 18:00         ` Eric Dumazet
2008-12-07 18:00           ` Eric Dumazet
2008-12-08  4:52           ` Andrew Morton
2008-12-08 22:12             ` Theodore Tso
2008-12-08 22:20               ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-12-08 23:00                 ` Theodore Tso
2008-12-08 23:05                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-12-08 23:08                     ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-12-09  8:12                     ` Eric Dumazet [this message]
2008-12-09  8:12                       ` Eric Dumazet
2008-12-09  8:34                       ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-12-09  8:34                         ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-12-10  5:09                         ` Eric Dumazet
2008-12-10  5:49                           ` Andrew Morton
2008-12-10 22:56                             ` Eric Dumazet
2008-12-10 22:56                               ` Eric Dumazet
2008-12-12  8:17                               ` Rusty Russell
2008-12-12  8:22                                 ` Eric Dumazet
2008-12-12  8:22                                   ` Eric Dumazet
2008-12-12 11:08                                 ` [PATCH] percpu_counter: use local_t and atomic_long_t if possible Eric Dumazet
2008-12-12 11:08                                   ` Eric Dumazet
2008-12-12 11:29                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-12-23 11:43                                   ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-12-25 13:26                                     ` Rusty Russell
2008-12-15 12:53                             ` [PATCH] percpu_counter: Fix __percpu_counter_sum() Rusty Russell
2008-12-16 20:16                               ` Ingo Molnar
2008-12-10  7:12                           ` Peter Zijlstra
2008-12-08 23:07                   ` Andrew Morton
2008-12-08 23:49                     ` Theodore Tso
2008-12-08 22:22               ` Andrew Morton
2008-12-08 22:44               ` Mingming Cao
2008-12-08 22:44                 ` Mingming Cao
2008-12-07 22:24         ` [PATCH] atomic: fix a typo in atomic_long_xchg() Eric Dumazet
2008-12-07 22:24           ` Eric Dumazet
2008-12-07 15:28     ` [PATCH] percpu_counter: Fix __percpu_counter_sum() Theodore Tso
2008-12-08  4:42       ` Andrew Morton
2008-12-08 17:55         ` Mingming Cao
2008-12-08 17:55           ` Mingming Cao
2008-12-11 16:32           ` [stable] " Greg KH
2008-12-08 17:44     ` Mingming Cao
2008-12-08 17:44       ` Mingming Cao
2008-12-04  6:13 ` [PATCH] percpu_counter: fix CPU unplug race in percpu_counter_destroy() David Miller

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