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From: Linda Knippers <linda.knippers@hp.com>
To: Steve Grubb <sgrubb@redhat.com>
Cc: linux-audit@redhat.com
Subject: Re: audit_pid with multiple userspace auditd processes
Date: Wed, 07 Jan 2009 18:11:37 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <496536A9.3080707@hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <200901071807.45011.sgrubb@redhat.com>

Steve Grubb wrote:
> On Wednesday 07 January 2009 05:54:14 pm Eric Paris wrote:
>>> Well, what if the first crashed and the kernel didn't know it yet? It
>>> might be better to forcibly break the connection to the original auditd.
>> I'm only talking about allowing userspace to "cleanly" unset it's belief
>> there is an auditd out there if the message comes from that process.
>> We'll still handle death by means of the usual netlink socket
>> failures...
>>
>> If auditd number 2 is the auditd the kernel knows about why should
>> auditd number 1 be allowed to "cleanly" say there is no auditd?
> 
> Ok, I see what you mean. We can either leave both running but disallow 
> resetting the pid or forcibly disconnect the first in the kernel. Either way 
> solves the problem. But doing the second might be cleaner for user space so 
> two daemons aren't trying to write to the same file.

The first makes more sense to me.  If an auditd is happily running,
starting a second one is an error.  Disconnecting a running auditd
seems problematic.  What happens to audit messages in flight?  Is
there a race where both auditds will be writing to the log?

-- ljk

> 
> -Steve
> 
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  reply	other threads:[~2009-01-07 23:11 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 10+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-07 21:36 audit_pid with multiple userspace auditd processes Eric Paris
2009-01-07 22:04 ` Linda Knippers
2009-01-07 22:10   ` Eric Paris
2009-01-07 22:12     ` Linda Knippers
2009-01-07 22:41 ` Steve Grubb
2009-01-07 22:54   ` Eric Paris
2009-01-07 23:07     ` Steve Grubb
2009-01-07 23:11       ` Linda Knippers [this message]
2009-01-07 23:24         ` Steve Grubb
2009-01-07 23:33           ` Linda Knippers

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