OE dev meeting

OE dev meeting

[Michael 'Mickey' Lauer]

What are the odds that we can hold an OE meeting shortly after or before 
FOSDEM?

Please vote.

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Re: OE dev meeting

[Koen Kooi]

On 04-01-09 16:47, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
> What are the odds that we can hold an OE meeting shortly after or before
> FOSDEM?

What's the purpose of the meeting, what is the intended audience, etc? 
And what's the point in voting on what the odds are?

Apart from that, there's little chance I will be able to make it to 
FOSDEM this year :(

regards,

Koen

Re: OE dev meeting

[Philip Balister]

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Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
> What are the odds that we can hold an OE meeting shortly after or before 
> FOSDEM?
> 
> Please vote.


How long would this meeting last? Before would be better for me. I need 
to work this out ASAP so I can buy a plane ticket.

Philip

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Re: OE dev meeting

[Michael 'Mickey' Lauer]

Am Sunday 04 January 2009 23:12:15 schrieb Philip Balister:
> How long would this meeting last? Before would be better for me. I need
> to work this out ASAP so I can buy a plane ticket.

One day would be fine. There's a number of issues that need some consensus 
before we can move forward. Things that come to mind include:

* The future of BitBake -- where to continue to develop it, in which style, 
and which features to concentrate on.

* Splitting the recipe tree.

* Evaluating our feedback of the first months w/ git.

* Streamlining Poky merges.

* OE and the distro situation

* Documentation, Website, and Hosting.

IIRC Richard had some additional points. RP?

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Re: OE dev meeting

[Richard Purdie]

On Sun, 2009-01-04 at 23:39 +0100, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
> Am Sunday 04 January 2009 23:12:15 schrieb Philip Balister:
> > How long would this meeting last? Before would be better for me. I need
> > to work this out ASAP so I can buy a plane ticket.
> 
> One day would be fine. There's a number of issues that need some consensus 
> before we can move forward. Things that come to mind include:

Agreed, one day would be fine. The question is who could be there?

Koen - most likely not
Mickey - quite likely?
Crofton - quite likely?
RP - if we're going to meet I will aim to be there
Marcin - ?
Zecke - ?
XorA - ?
pb_ - ?

> * The future of BitBake -- where to continue to develop it, in which style, 
> and which features to concentrate on.

My view on this is:

 * Switch SCM to git
 * Keep as a separate project
 * Develop and accept features as people have need for them
 * 1.8 continues as "stable"
 * Trunk is the next gen branch with client/server split with UI 
   capability.
 * Trunk replaces 1.8 when people feel its ready/usable.

> * Splitting the recipe tree.
> 
> * Evaluating our feedback of the first months w/ git.
> 
> * Streamlining Poky merges.
> 
> * OE and the distro situation
> 
> * Documentation, Website, and Hosting.
> 
> IIRC Richard had some additional points. RP?

Most of it fits into the above categories. I also wanted to talk to
people and find out what people are now all doing, which directions
people are moving in (and its implications for OE) and also perhaps try
and convey the direction Poky is going. I've lost touch with what some
people are doing a bit and the reverse is also problem true and probably
others are in a similar position?

Perhaps the alternative is to try and have a meeting on IRC where at
least as many of the above people are available online without other
commitments? We could probably get through things fairly quickly?

Cheers,

Richard



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Richard Purdie
Intel Open Source Technology Centre

Re: OE dev meeting

[Graeme Gregory]

Richard Purdie wrote:
> On Sun, 2009-01-04 at 23:39 +0100, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
>   
>> Am Sunday 04 January 2009 23:12:15 schrieb Philip Balister:
>>     
>>> How long would this meeting last? Before would be better for me. I need
>>> to work this out ASAP so I can buy a plane ticket.
>>>       
>> One day would be fine. There's a number of issues that need some consensus 
>> before we can move forward. Things that come to mind include:
>>     
>
> Agreed, one day would be fine. The question is who could be there?
>
> Koen - most likely not
> Mickey - quite likely?
> Crofton - quite likely?
> RP - if we're going to meet I will aim to be there
> Marcin - ?
> Zecke - ?
> XorA - ?
> pb_ - ?
>   
I hadn't made the decision whether I could afford FOSDEM yet!

Graeme

Re: OE dev meeting

[Koen Kooi]

On 05-01-09 13:41, Graeme Gregory wrote:
> Richard Purdie wrote:
>> On Sun, 2009-01-04 at 23:39 +0100, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
>>
>>> Am Sunday 04 January 2009 23:12:15 schrieb Philip Balister:
>>>
>>>> How long would this meeting last? Before would be better for me. I need
>>>> to work this out ASAP so I can buy a plane ticket.
>>>>
>>> One day would be fine. There's a number of issues that need some consensus
>>> before we can move forward. Things that come to mind include:
>>>
>> Agreed, one day would be fine. The question is who could be there?
>>
>> Koen - most likely not
>> Mickey - quite likely?
>> Crofton - quite likely?
>> RP - if we're going to meet I will aim to be there
>> Marcin - ?
>> Zecke - ?
>> XorA - ?
>> pb_ - ?
>>
> I hadn't made the decision whether I could afford FOSDEM yet!

I'm pretty much in the same boat.

regards,

Koen, who is still waiting on previous OEDEM reimbursements

Re: OE dev meeting

[Michael 'Mickey' Lauer]

It looks like there's a slight majority in favour of _before_ FOSDEM, so lets 
check who could be there on Friday.

This year, I want to depart on Sunday, so Friday will work for me.

Cheers,

:M:

NB: With regards to the imbursements, Stelios, do you still have our invoices? 
We need them sent to Cornelius. If you can't do that, please forward 'em to 
me.

Re: OE dev meeting

[Philip Balister]

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Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
> It looks like there's a slight majority in favour of _before_ FOSDEM, so lets 
> check who could be there on Friday.
> 
> This year, I want to depart on Sunday, so Friday will work for me.

I'll be there Friday. How long should we block off for Friday? Who will 
be able to attend? I'm assuming anyone with OE interest who will be in 
Brussels is welcome.

I'm arriving a few days early and will impersonate a tourist until 
Friday AM.

Philip


> 
> Cheers,
> 
> :M:
> 
> NB: With regards to the imbursements, Stelios, do you still have our invoices? 
> We need them sent to Cornelius. If you can't do that, please forward 'em to 
> me.
> 
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Re: OE dev meeting

[Phil Blundell]

Friday would be OK for me.

p.

On Thu, 2009-01-08 at 01:29 +0100, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
> It looks like there's a slight majority in favour of _before_ FOSDEM, so lets 
> check who could be there on Friday.
> 
> This year, I want to depart on Sunday, so Friday will work for me.
> 
> Cheers,
> 
> :M:
> 
> NB: With regards to the imbursements, Stelios, do you still have our invoices? 
> We need them sent to Cornelius. If you can't do that, please forward 'em to 
> me.
> 
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Re: OE dev meeting

[Graeme Gregory]

As there are no flights on the thursday, earliest I can arrive is about
4pm at Astrid :-(

Graeme

Re: OE dev meeting

[Philip Balister]

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Graeme Gregory wrote:
> As there are no flights on the thursday, earliest I can arrive is about
> 4pm at Astrid :-(

Well, at least you can make the beer event :)

Philip

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Re: OE dev meeting

[Leon Woestenberg]

Hello all,

On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 2:34 PM, Philip Balister <philip@balister.org> wrote:
> Graeme Gregory wrote:
>>
>> As there are no flights on the thursday, earliest I can arrive is about
>> 4pm at Astrid :-(
>
> Well, at least you can make the beer event :)
>
Did someone try to arrange group discount as Astrid, or do we just book as-is?

I was at the beer event last year but missed most key OE ppl because
they decided to be next-doors or so.
So I just got drunk with the other geeks.

Can we exchange phone numbers ahead so that we can text message each
other on this?

Regards,
-- 
Leon

Re: OE dev meeting

[Philip Balister]

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Leon Woestenberg wrote:
> Hello all,
> 
> On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 2:34 PM, Philip Balister <philip@balister.org> wrote:
>> Graeme Gregory wrote:
>>> As there are no flights on the thursday, earliest I can arrive is about
>>> 4pm at Astrid :-(
>> Well, at least you can make the beer event :)
>>
> Did someone try to arrange group discount as Astrid, or do we just book as-is?

We've been booking. The Astrid website showed no vacancy, but I got a 
room via Expedia, and they did reply to an email saying they had rooms.

> 
> I was at the beer event last year but missed most key OE ppl because
> they decided to be next-doors or so.
> So I just got drunk with the other geeks.
> 
> Can we exchange phone numbers ahead so that we can text message each
> other on this?

I need to look into using my Blackberry in .eu without going broke on 
data charges ...

Philip

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Re: OE dev meeting

[Ulf Samuelsson]

ons 2009-01-21 klockan 14:34 -0700 skrev Philip Balister:
> Leon Woestenberg wrote:
> > Hello all,
> > 
> > On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 2:34 PM, Philip Balister <philip@balister.org> wrote:
> >> Graeme Gregory wrote:
> >>> As there are no flights on the thursday, earliest I can arrive is about
> >>> 4pm at Astrid :-(
> >> Well, at least you can make the beer event :)
> >>
> > Did someone try to arrange group discount as Astrid, or do we just book as-is?
> 
> We've been booking. The Astrid website showed no vacancy, but I got a 
> room via Expedia, and they did reply to an email saying they had rooms.
> 
> > 
> > I was at the beer event last year but missed most key OE ppl because
> > they decided to be next-doors or so.
> > So I just got drunk with the other geeks.
> > 
> > Can we exchange phone numbers ahead so that we can text message each
> > other on this?
> 
> I need to look into using my Blackberry in .eu without going broke on 
> data charges ...
> 

Get a hotel with free Wifi.

I was hoping for Scandic, which is ~ 150 meters from the beer event, 
but that was fully booked, so I got SAS-Radisson (300 m from beer event)
~99 Euro/night (unless you got SAS miles).

Astrid, if not fully booked is 69 Euros/night.

BR
Ulf Samuelsson

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Re: OE dev meeting

[Philip Balister]

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Ulf Samuelsson wrote:
> ons 2009-01-21 klockan 14:34 -0700 skrev Philip Balister:
>> Leon Woestenberg wrote:
>>> Hello all,
>>>
>>> On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 2:34 PM, Philip Balister <philip@balister.org> wrote:
>>>> Graeme Gregory wrote:
>>>>> As there are no flights on the thursday, earliest I can arrive is about
>>>>> 4pm at Astrid :-(
>>>> Well, at least you can make the beer event :)
>>>>
>>> Did someone try to arrange group discount as Astrid, or do we just book as-is?
>> We've been booking. The Astrid website showed no vacancy, but I got a 
>> room via Expedia, and they did reply to an email saying they had rooms.
>>
>>> I was at the beer event last year but missed most key OE ppl because
>>> they decided to be next-doors or so.
>>> So I just got drunk with the other geeks.
>>>
>>> Can we exchange phone numbers ahead so that we can text message each
>>> other on this?
>> I need to look into using my Blackberry in .eu without going broke on 
>> data charges ...
>>
> 
> Get a hotel with free Wifi.

Linksys provides wifi for the Astrid (well, if you get the right room). 
It's not like we spend much time in the Hotel. The bigger problem is the 
wifi at FOSDEM. Building a network for several thousand nerds is tough.

Philip

> 
> I was hoping for Scandic, which is ~ 150 meters from the beer event, 
> but that was fully booked, so I got SAS-Radisson (300 m from beer event)
> ~99 Euro/night (unless you got SAS miles).
> 
> Astrid, if not fully booked is 69 Euros/night.
> 
> BR
> Ulf Samuelsson
> 
>> Philip
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Re: OE dev meeting

[Alessandro GARDICH]

Leon Woestenberg wrote:
> Hello all,
>
> On Tue, Jan 13, 2009 at 2:34 PM, Philip Balister <philip@balister.org> wrote:
>   
>> Graeme Gregory wrote:
>>     
>>> As there are no flights on the thursday, earliest I can arrive is about
>>> 4pm at Astrid :-(
>>>       
>> Well, at least you can make the beer event :)
>>
>>     
> Did someone try to arrange group discount as Astrid, or do we just book as-is?
>
> I was at the beer event last year but missed most key OE ppl because
> they decided to be next-doors or so.
> So I just got drunk with the other geeks.
>
> Can we exchange phone numbers ahead so that we can text message each
> other on this?
>
> Regards,
>   
I agree ...
or we can meet at Astrid hall and then go all at the Delirium Caffe

I already book the room at Astrid and i think some other already did ...



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Re: OE dev meeting

[Alessandro GARDICH]

Also if I wasn't active in in OE in the last year I'll like to partecipate,
but I'll be in Brussels for friday ad 12:00 about ...
maybe I can join later if you start on morning



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Re: OE dev meeting

[Marcin Juszkiewicz]

On Friday 09 of January 2009 09:40:12 Phil Blundell wrote:
> Friday would be OK for me.

I will arrive on Thursday evening to Astrid hotel. Planned to be a 
tourist during Friday but OE meeting on Friday is ok for me.

The question is where it will take place...

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Re: OE dev meeting

[Ken Gilmer]

Maybe you also can decide on Mateo's OE logo proposal.

cheers
ken

On Sun, 2009-01-04 at 23:39 +0100, Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
> Am Sunday 04 January 2009 23:12:15 schrieb Philip Balister:
> > How long would this meeting last? Before would be better for me. I need
> > to work this out ASAP so I can buy a plane ticket.
> 
> One day would be fine. There's a number of issues that need some consensus 
> before we can move forward. Things that come to mind include:
> 
> * The future of BitBake -- where to continue to develop it, in which style, 
> and which features to concentrate on.
> 
> * Splitting the recipe tree.
> 
> * Evaluating our feedback of the first months w/ git.
> 
> * Streamlining Poky merges.
> 
> * OE and the distro situation
> 
> * Documentation, Website, and Hosting.
> 
> IIRC Richard had some additional points. RP?
> 

Re: OE dev meeting

[Marcin Juszkiewicz]

On Sunday 04 of January 2009 16:47:42 Michael 'Mickey' Lauer wrote:
> What are the odds that we can hold an OE meeting shortly after or
> before FOSDEM?

By "before/after FOSDEM" you mean Thursday/Friday (5-6.02.09) or 
Monday/Tuesday (09-10.02.09)? Or other dates?

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