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From: Alan Jenkins <alan-jenkins-cCz0Lq7MMjm9FHfhHBbuYA@public.gmane.org>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw-KKrjLPT3xs0@public.gmane.org>
Cc: kernel-testers-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-kernel-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA@public.gmane.org,
	linux-pm-cunTk1MwBs9QetFLy7KEm3xJsTq8ys+cHZ5vskTnxNA@public.gmane.org,
	Pavel Machek <pavel-AlSwsSmVLrQ@public.gmane.org>,
	Jesse Barnes <jbarnes-Y1mF5jBUw70BENJcbMCuUQ@public.gmane.org>
Subject: Re: BISECTED: 2.6.29-rc2 regression: hibernation hang on eeepc-701
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 14:24:27 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <497B249B.6040104@tuffmail.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <497B1F21.3080908-cCz0Lq7MMjm9FHfhHBbuYA@public.gmane.org>

Alan Jenkins wrote:
> Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
>> On Saturday 24 January 2009, Alan Jenkins wrote:
>>  
>>> Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
>>>    
>>>> On Friday 23 January 2009, Alan Jenkins wrote:
>>>>        
>>>>> Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
>>>>>            
>>>>>> On Thursday 22 January 2009, Alan Jenkins wrote:
>>>>>>                  
>>>>>>> Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
>>>>>>>                        
>>>>>>>> On Thursday 22 January 2009, Alan Jenkins wrote:
>>>>>>>>                                
>>>>>>>>> Alan Jenkins wrote:
>>>>>>>>>                                        
>>>>>>>>>> Hibernation hangs just after writing the image.  With s2disk
>>>>>>>>>> I can see
>>>>>>>>>> this from the console messages.  The same hang happens with
>>>>>>>>>> kernel
>>>>>>>>>> swsusp ('echo disk | sudo tee /sys/power/state'), and I can
>>>>>>>>>> see that
>>>>>>>>>> the image has been written from the HDD led.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In either case, I can still hard-power-off and resume from
>>>>>>>>>> hibernation.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It doesn't hang if I use the shutdown method (either 'echo
>>>>>>>>>> shutdown |
>>>>>>>>>> sudo tee /sys/power/disk' or  's2disk -P "shutdown
>>>>>>>>>> method=shutdown"').
>>>>>>>>>>                                                   
>>>>>>>>> I've bisected this to commit
>>>>>>>>> 571ff7584bb9e05fca0eb79752ae55a46faf3a98. It doesn't revert
>>>>>>>>> cleanly from RC2.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think it's distinct from the other two reported suspend
>>>>>>>>> regressions. I'm not using acpi-cpufreq, and the issue doesn't
>>>>>>>>> affect resume.
>>>>>>>>>                                         
>>>>>>>> It looks distinct.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Do you suspend this box to RAM and does it work?
>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>> Yes, I do use STR on it occasionally, and it still works in RC2.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                        
>>>>>>>> Please retest with the appended patch applied.
>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>> That fixes it.
>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>> OK, it won't hurt to apply it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Still, the hardware or the BIOS in your box seems to be broken,
>>>>>> or both, so I'd
>>>>>> like to debug it a bit more if you don't mind.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can you please test the patch below instead of the previous one?
>>>>>>                   
>>>>> It hangs at the same point as the unpatched RC2.  As before, it
>>>>> doesn't
>>>>> hang if I use "shutdown" instead of "platform".
>>>>>
>>>>> Going by sysfs, I have 4 PCI devices without a kernel driver.
>>>>>
>>>>> 8086:2592   Mobile 915 Express Graphics Controller
>>>>> 8086:2792   Mobile 915 Express Graphics Controller (driven by X)
>>>>> 8086:2448   82801 Mobile PCI Bridge
>>>>> 8086:2641   82801FBM (ICH6M) LPC Interface Bridge
>>>>>             
>>>> The bridges shouldn't be affected, so I bet on the graphics.
>>>>
>>>> It seems that the BIOS doesn't expect it to be in D3 while entering
>>>> S4,
>>>> although it apparently doesn't mind it to be in D3 while entering S3.
>>>>
>>>> I blame the Asus BIOS writers. ;-)
>>>>         
>>> Wouldn't Windows normally put it into D3?
>>>     
>>
>> It need not put it into D3hot if it's going to remove power from it.
>>
>>  
>>> There are many reports of successful hibernation under Windows on this
>>> hardware.  The motivation being that S3 drains the battery in <24
>>> hours.
>>> (Fewer people hibernate on linux because you only have a 4G SSD, so
>>> a swap
>>> partition wastes a lot of space, and most installers can't set up swap
>>> files).
>>>
>>> Also it sounds like it would break when the linux kernel mode
>>> setting driver is used.
>>>     
>>
>> Why would it break?  This is the last phase of hibernation, right before
>> powering off things.
>>   
>
> If I have a kernel mode-setting driver, won't that bind to the
> graphics device?  Then the device would be power managed, so it would
> trigger the same problem.
>
> I guess I can test this rather than speculating.  If my concern is
> valid, then using intelfb should have the same effect.
>

Ok, it doesn't hang with intelfb (and not power managing devices without
drivers), so I guess there's nothing to worry about.

Alan

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Alan Jenkins <alan-jenkins@tuffmail.co.uk>
To: "Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>
Cc: kernel-testers@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org, Pavel Machek <pavel@suse.cz>,
	Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org>
Subject: Re: BISECTED: 2.6.29-rc2 regression: hibernation hang on eeepc-701
Date: Sat, 24 Jan 2009 14:24:27 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <497B249B.6040104@tuffmail.co.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <497B1F21.3080908@tuffmail.co.uk>

Alan Jenkins wrote:
> Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
>> On Saturday 24 January 2009, Alan Jenkins wrote:
>>  
>>> Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
>>>    
>>>> On Friday 23 January 2009, Alan Jenkins wrote:
>>>>        
>>>>> Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
>>>>>            
>>>>>> On Thursday 22 January 2009, Alan Jenkins wrote:
>>>>>>                  
>>>>>>> Rafael J. Wysocki wrote:
>>>>>>>                        
>>>>>>>> On Thursday 22 January 2009, Alan Jenkins wrote:
>>>>>>>>                                
>>>>>>>>> Alan Jenkins wrote:
>>>>>>>>>                                        
>>>>>>>>>> Hibernation hangs just after writing the image.  With s2disk
>>>>>>>>>> I can see
>>>>>>>>>> this from the console messages.  The same hang happens with
>>>>>>>>>> kernel
>>>>>>>>>> swsusp ('echo disk | sudo tee /sys/power/state'), and I can
>>>>>>>>>> see that
>>>>>>>>>> the image has been written from the HDD led.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> In either case, I can still hard-power-off and resume from
>>>>>>>>>> hibernation.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> It doesn't hang if I use the shutdown method (either 'echo
>>>>>>>>>> shutdown |
>>>>>>>>>> sudo tee /sys/power/disk' or  's2disk -P "shutdown
>>>>>>>>>> method=shutdown"').
>>>>>>>>>>                                                   
>>>>>>>>> I've bisected this to commit
>>>>>>>>> 571ff7584bb9e05fca0eb79752ae55a46faf3a98. It doesn't revert
>>>>>>>>> cleanly from RC2.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I think it's distinct from the other two reported suspend
>>>>>>>>> regressions. I'm not using acpi-cpufreq, and the issue doesn't
>>>>>>>>> affect resume.
>>>>>>>>>                                         
>>>>>>>> It looks distinct.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Do you suspend this box to RAM and does it work?
>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>> Yes, I do use STR on it occasionally, and it still works in RC2.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>                        
>>>>>>>> Please retest with the appended patch applied.
>>>>>>>>                                 
>>>>>>> That fixes it.
>>>>>>>                         
>>>>>> OK, it won't hurt to apply it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Still, the hardware or the BIOS in your box seems to be broken,
>>>>>> or both, so I'd
>>>>>> like to debug it a bit more if you don't mind.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Can you please test the patch below instead of the previous one?
>>>>>>                   
>>>>> It hangs at the same point as the unpatched RC2.  As before, it
>>>>> doesn't
>>>>> hang if I use "shutdown" instead of "platform".
>>>>>
>>>>> Going by sysfs, I have 4 PCI devices without a kernel driver.
>>>>>
>>>>> 8086:2592   Mobile 915 Express Graphics Controller
>>>>> 8086:2792   Mobile 915 Express Graphics Controller (driven by X)
>>>>> 8086:2448   82801 Mobile PCI Bridge
>>>>> 8086:2641   82801FBM (ICH6M) LPC Interface Bridge
>>>>>             
>>>> The bridges shouldn't be affected, so I bet on the graphics.
>>>>
>>>> It seems that the BIOS doesn't expect it to be in D3 while entering
>>>> S4,
>>>> although it apparently doesn't mind it to be in D3 while entering S3.
>>>>
>>>> I blame the Asus BIOS writers. ;-)
>>>>         
>>> Wouldn't Windows normally put it into D3?
>>>     
>>
>> It need not put it into D3hot if it's going to remove power from it.
>>
>>  
>>> There are many reports of successful hibernation under Windows on this
>>> hardware.  The motivation being that S3 drains the battery in <24
>>> hours.
>>> (Fewer people hibernate on linux because you only have a 4G SSD, so
>>> a swap
>>> partition wastes a lot of space, and most installers can't set up swap
>>> files).
>>>
>>> Also it sounds like it would break when the linux kernel mode
>>> setting driver is used.
>>>     
>>
>> Why would it break?  This is the last phase of hibernation, right before
>> powering off things.
>>   
>
> If I have a kernel mode-setting driver, won't that bind to the
> graphics device?  Then the device would be power managed, so it would
> trigger the same problem.
>
> I guess I can test this rather than speculating.  If my concern is
> valid, then using intelfb should have the same effect.
>

Ok, it doesn't hang with intelfb (and not power managing devices without
drivers), so I guess there's nothing to worry about.

Alan

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-01-24 14:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 41+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-18 11:45 2.6.29-rc2 regression: hibernation hang on eeepc-701 (method "platform" only) Alan Jenkins
2009-01-18 11:45 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-01-18 11:45 ` Alan Jenkins
     [not found] ` <9b2b86520901180345j434eacbdn7386958991ee50b-JsoAwUIsXosN+BqQ9rBEUg@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-18 19:19   ` Alan Jenkins
2009-01-18 19:19     ` Alan Jenkins
2009-01-18 19:19     ` Alan Jenkins
2009-01-22 11:30   ` BISECTED: 2.6.29-rc2 regression: hibernation hang on eeepc-701 Alan Jenkins
2009-01-22 11:30     ` Alan Jenkins
     [not found]     ` <497858E1.5070303-cCz0Lq7MMjm9FHfhHBbuYA@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-22 12:44       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-01-22 12:44         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-01-22 13:23         ` Alan Jenkins
     [not found]         ` <200901221344.16178.rjw-KKrjLPT3xs0@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-22 13:23           ` Alan Jenkins
2009-01-22 13:23             ` Alan Jenkins
     [not found]             ` <49787339.7080900-cCz0Lq7MMjm9FHfhHBbuYA@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-22 22:05               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-01-22 22:05                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                 ` <200901222305.25824.rjw-KKrjLPT3xs0@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-23  9:45                   ` Alan Jenkins
2009-01-23  9:45                     ` Alan Jenkins
2009-01-23 22:06                     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
     [not found]                     ` <497991CC.9030200-cCz0Lq7MMjm9FHfhHBbuYA@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-23 22:06                       ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-01-23 22:06                         ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-01-24 11:15                         ` Alan Jenkins
2009-01-24 11:15                         ` Alan Jenkins
     [not found]                           ` <497AF845.2000002-cCz0Lq7MMjm9FHfhHBbuYA@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-24 13:43                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-01-24 13:43                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-01-24 14:01                               ` Alan Jenkins
     [not found]                               ` <200901241443.14930.rjw-KKrjLPT3xs0@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-24 14:01                                 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-01-24 14:01                                   ` Alan Jenkins
2009-01-24 14:24                                   ` Alan Jenkins
     [not found]                                   ` <497B1F21.3080908-cCz0Lq7MMjm9FHfhHBbuYA@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-24 14:24                                     ` Alan Jenkins [this message]
2009-01-24 14:24                                       ` Alan Jenkins
2009-01-24 13:43                           ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-01-24 16:27                           ` Jesse Barnes
2009-01-24 16:27                           ` Jesse Barnes
     [not found]                             ` <200901240827.05557.jbarnes-Y1mF5jBUw70BENJcbMCuUQ@public.gmane.org>
2009-01-24 20:53                               ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-01-24 20:53                                 ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-01-24 20:53                             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-01-23  9:45                 ` Alan Jenkins
2009-01-22 22:05             ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-01-22 12:44     ` Rafael J. Wysocki
2009-01-18 19:19 ` 2.6.29-rc2 regression: hibernation hang on eeepc-701 (method "platform" only) Alan Jenkins
2009-01-22 11:30 ` BISECTED: 2.6.29-rc2 regression: hibernation hang on eeepc-701 Alan Jenkins

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