[ANNOUNCE] V4L, DVB and Maintainers Mailing Lists at vger.kernel.org

[ANNOUNCE] V4L, DVB and Maintainers Mailing Lists at vger.kernel.org

[Mauro Carvalho Chehab]

V4L, DVB and V4L/DVB Maintainers Mailing Lists Were merged on Jan, 2 2009 at vger.kernel.org

The idea of merging the mailing lists is running around for some time.

It took some time for me to have time to address this issue, but it finally happened. We've just created it as:

    * linux-media@vger.kernel.org

The new mailing list will be the main place for discussing both V4L and DVB developments. It replaces the previous V4L/DVB Maintainers List.

It is expected that it will gradually replace the DVB Mailing List and V4L Mailing List as user forums for V4L/DVB discussions.

Having the mailing list hosted at vger.kernel.org has some advantages:

    * VGER is the place where almost all Linux Kernel subsystems are discussed;
    * Their anti-spam filters are very efficient. This way, the same list can be used to handle patch submissions and bug reports from non-subscribers without the risk of receiving lots of trash.

As a bonus, we now have the Patchwork tool for automatically storing the patches sent to linux-media@vger.kernel.org and efficiently retrieving the patch history. This allows the developers to do a better job of handling patches without the risk of having patches lost somewhere.

I kindly want to invite you all, and specially those of you that want to help on the development and improvement of linux video input infrastructure to subscribe linux-media@vger.kernel.org.

To subscribe, you need to send an email to majordomo@vger.kernel.org with "subscribe linux-media" written at the body of the message. In case of doubts, just click at the subscribe link on the announcement page:
http://linuxtv.org/news.php?entry=2009-01-06.mchehab

There are a few archives already available, at:

    * http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.linux.drivers.video-input-infrastructure
    * http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-media/
    * http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-media@vger.kernel.org

Happy new year and Happy Ephiphany,
Mauro.
Jan, 6 2009

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Re: [linux-dvb] [ANNOUNCE] V4L, DVB and Maintainers Mailing Lists at vger.kernel.org

[Klaus Schmidinger]

On 07.01.2009 03:09, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
> V4L, DVB and V4L/DVB Maintainers Mailing Lists Were merged on Jan, 2 2009 at vger.kernel.org
> 
> The idea of merging the mailing lists is running around for some time.
> 
> It took some time for me to have time to address this issue, but it finally happened. We've just created it as:
> 
>     * linux-media@vger.kernel.org
> ...

I just subscribed to this list and already received a first posting.
Unfortunately this list doesn't mark postings' subjects with the
list name, as in

  [linux-dvb] Merging V4L, DVB and Maintainers Mailing lists...

where I could immediately see whether this is a "normal" email
or a list posting.

Could this please be changed, so that there is a [listname] prefix?

Klaus

_______________________________________________
linux-dvb users mailing list
For V4L/DVB development, please use instead linux-media@vger.kernel.org
linux-dvb@linuxtv.org
http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linux-dvb

Re: [linux-dvb] [ANNOUNCE] V4L, DVB and Maintainers Mailing Lists at vger.kernel.org

[Mauro Carvalho Chehab]

On Thu, 8 Jan 2009, Klaus Schmidinger wrote:

> On 07.01.2009 03:09, Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
>> V4L, DVB and V4L/DVB Maintainers Mailing Lists Were merged on Jan, 2 2009 at vger.kernel.org
>>
>> The idea of merging the mailing lists is running around for some time.
>>
>> It took some time for me to have time to address this issue, but it finally happened. We've just created it as:
>>
>>     * linux-media@vger.kernel.org
>> ...
>
> I just subscribed to this list and already received a first posting.
> Unfortunately this list doesn't mark postings' subjects with the
> list name, as in
>
>  [linux-dvb] Merging V4L, DVB and Maintainers Mailing lists...
>
> where I could immediately see whether this is a "normal" email
> or a list posting.
>
> Could this please be changed, so that there is a [listname] prefix?

Probably this could be changed, but this would have some other impacts, 
like adding the list name on the submitted patches. Also, The list were 
created using the same config as all the other Linux kernel development 
lists. The previous experiences shows that having a different model on our 
development means more work and more troubles that could otherwise be 
avoided (for example, using -hg instea of -git ended to be a large source 
of troubles for maintaining it).

What I do here is to create a filtering rule to split mailing list patches 
on a separate INBOX, based on this message header:

 	X-Mailing-List: linux-media@vger.kernel.org

If your emailer is powerful enough, maybe you can also prefix something at 
the subject when this header is seen. For example, on claws-mail, you can 
color the message based on a filtering rule.

Cheers,
Mauro.

_______________________________________________
linux-dvb users mailing list
For V4L/DVB development, please use instead linux-media@vger.kernel.org
linux-dvb@linuxtv.org
http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linux-dvb

Re: [linux-dvb] [ANNOUNCE] V4L, DVB and Maintainers Mailing Lists at vger.kernel.org

[Vanessa Ezekowitz]

On Thu January 8 2009 6:06:49 am Klaus Schmidinger wrote:

> I just subscribed to this list and already received a first posting.
> Unfortunately this list doesn't mark postings' subjects with the
> list name, as in
> 
>   [linux-dvb] Merging V4L, DVB and Maintainers Mailing lists...
> 
> where I could immediately see whether this is a "normal" email
> or a list posting.

Check the "To" field.  In the case of your message, it shows "linux-dvb@linuxtv.org" on my end.  Set your mailer to match this address in any/all headers and you'll probably catch everything destined for this list.

I'm of the opinion that [linux-dvb] and similar really should be *stripped* from the subject line of mailing lists in general, since there are other ways to identify mailing lists (such as the "List-Id" header field, which is also valid for this list).  I've set Kmail to sort in a similar manner, with each list's messages going into their appropriate mail folders.

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things aren't, and when you learn that, life improves."
Vanessa Ezekowitz <vanessaezekowitz@gmail.com>

_______________________________________________
linux-dvb users mailing list
For V4L/DVB development, please use instead linux-media@vger.kernel.org
linux-dvb@linuxtv.org
http://www.linuxtv.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/linux-dvb

Re: [ANNOUNCE] V4L, DVB and Maintainers Mailing Lists at vger.kernel.org

[CityK]

Mauro Carvalho Chehab wrote:
> There are a few archives already available, at:
>
>     * http://dir.gmane.org/gmane.linux.drivers.video-input-infrastructure
>     * http://www.spinics.net/lists/linux-media/
>     * http://www.mail-archive.com/linux-media@vger.kernel.org
>
>   
Hi Mauro,

when you get a free moment, can you have MARC added to the list of
archive sites: http://marc.info/?q=about#Add

Thanks