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From: Patrick McHardy <kaber@trash.net>
To: Eric Dumazet <dada1@cosmosbay.com>
Cc: Rick Jones <rick.jones2@hp.com>,
	Netfilter Developers <netfilter-devel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Linux Network Development list <netdev@vger.kernel.org>,
	Stephen Hemminger <shemminger@vyatta.com>
Subject: Re: 32 core net-next stack/netfilter "scaling"
Date: Mon, 09 Feb 2009 15:57:05 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <49904441.2090309@trash.net> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <49809716.3020204@cosmosbay.com>

Eric Dumazet wrote:
> Eric Dumazet a écrit :
>> Patrick McHardy a écrit :
>>> That looks more complicated since it requires to take multiple locks
>>> occasionally (f.i. hash insertion, potentially helper-related and
>>> expectation-related stuff), and there is the unconfirmed_list, where
>>> fine-grained locking can't really be used without changing it to
>>> a hash.
>>>
>> Yes its more complicated, but look what we did in 2.6.29 for tcp/udp
>>  sockets, using RCU to have lockless lookups.
>> Yes, we still take a lock when doing an insert or delete at socket
>> bind/unbind time.
>>
>> We could keep a central nf_conntrack_lock to guard insertions/deletes
>> from hash and unconfirmed_list.
>>
>> But *normal* packets that only need to change state of one particular
>> connection could use RCU (without spinlock) to locate the conntrack,
>> then lock the found conntrack to perform all state changes.
> 
> Well... RCU is already used by conntrack :)
> 
> Maybe only __nf_ct_refresh_acct() needs not taking nf_conntrack_lock

The lock is currently used to avoid timer update races.
Martin has two old patches two remove it, but they require
changes to the timer code to support a mod_timer variant
that doesn't enable an inactive timer:

http://people.netfilter.org/gandalf/performance/patches/mod_timer_noact
http://people.netfilter.org/gandalf/performance/patches/__nf_ct_refresh_acct-locking
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  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-02-09 14:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 42+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-01-26 22:15 32 core net-next stack/netfilter "scaling" Rick Jones
2009-01-26 23:10 ` Eric Dumazet
2009-01-26 23:14   ` Stephen Hemminger
2009-01-26 23:19   ` Rick Jones
2009-01-27  9:10     ` Eric Dumazet
2009-01-27  9:15       ` Patrick McHardy
2009-01-27 11:29         ` Eric Dumazet
2009-01-27 11:37           ` Patrick McHardy
2009-01-27 16:23         ` Eric Dumazet
2009-01-27 17:33           ` Patrick McHardy
2009-01-27 18:02             ` Rick Jones
2009-01-27 19:09               ` Rick Jones
2009-01-27 19:24                 ` Rick Jones
2009-01-27 22:17                   ` Eric Dumazet
2009-01-27 22:29                     ` Rick Jones
2009-01-27 22:34                       ` Eric Dumazet
2009-01-27 22:43                         ` Rick Jones
2009-01-28 13:55                   ` Eric Dumazet
2009-01-28 16:25                     ` Patrick McHardy
2009-01-28 17:07                       ` Eric Dumazet
2009-01-28 17:34                         ` Eric Dumazet
2009-01-29 15:31                           ` [PATCH] netfilter: unfold two critical loops in ip_packet_match() Eric Dumazet
2009-01-30 15:47                             ` Andi Kleen
2009-01-30 16:54                               ` Eric Dumazet
2009-01-30 17:27                                 ` Andi Kleen
2009-01-30 17:27                                   ` Eric Dumazet
2009-01-30 17:50                                     ` Andi Kleen
2009-02-09 13:41                                   ` Patrick McHardy
2009-02-18 15:10                                     ` Eric Dumazet
2009-02-18 15:21                                       ` Patrick McHardy
2009-02-18 16:33                                         ` Eric Dumazet
2009-02-18 16:52                                           ` Patrick McHardy
2009-02-18 17:36                                           ` [PATCH] netfilter: xt_physdev fixes Eric Dumazet
2009-02-18 18:14                                             ` Patrick McHardy
2009-02-19  8:00                                               ` [PATCH] netfilter: unfold two loops in physdev_mt() Eric Dumazet
2009-02-19  8:14                                                 ` [PATCH] netfilter: unfold two loops in ip6_packet_match() Eric Dumazet
2009-02-19 10:19                                                   ` Patrick McHardy
2009-02-19 10:17                                                 ` [PATCH] netfilter: unfold two loops in physdev_mt() Patrick McHardy
2009-02-20 10:02                             ` [PATCH] netfilter: unfold two critical loops in ip_packet_match() Eric Dumazet
2009-02-20 10:04                               ` Patrick McHardy
2009-02-09 14:57                           ` Patrick McHardy [this message]
2009-02-10 18:44   ` 32 core net-next stack/netfilter "scaling" Stephen Hemminger

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