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From: Joshua Brindle <method@manicmethod.com>
To: Andy Warner <warner@rubix.com>
Cc: selinux <selinux@tycho.nsa.gov>
Subject: Re: Some ideas in SE-PostgreSQL enhancement (Re: The status of SE-PostgreSQL)
Date: Wed, 25 Mar 2009 13:43:00 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <49CA6D24.3040007@manicmethod.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <49C9E101.1050400@rubix.com>

Andy Warner wrote:
> 
> 
> KaiGai Kohei wrote:
>> As I noted in the previous message, SE-PostgreSQL is postponed to
>> the PostgreSQL v8.5 after the long discussion in the pgsql-hackers
>> list, unfortunately.
>> However, it also mean a good chance to revise its design because
>> we have a few months before v8.5 development cycle launched.
>>
>> 1. Changes in object classes and access vectors
>>  - add db_database:{superuser} permission
>>   
>>  - remove db_database:{get_param set_param} permission
>>  - remove db_table/db_column/db_tuple:{use} permission
>>
>>   Please refer the previous messages for them.
>>
>>  - add new object class "db_schema"
>>   As Andy noted, we directly put database objects under the
>>   db_database class directly. But, some of database objects
>>   are created under a schema object.
>>   In other word, RDBMS's design has three level hierachy as:
>>      <database>  (<-- some DBMSs calls it as <catalog>)
>>       + <schema>
>>          + <tables>, <procedures>, ...
>>
>>   Now, we control user's DDL statement via permissions on
>>   the sepgsql_sysobj_t type as row-level controls.
>>   But I think db_schema object class here is meaningful
>>   to match SQL's design and analogy to the dir class.
>>
>>   The new db_schema object class inherits six permissions
>>   from common database objects, and defines three its own
>>   permissions: add_object, remove_object, usage
>>   
> I would suggest that the SQL catalog object should also be supported. 
> Though not common in implementation, it is part of the SQL spec. Our 
> DBMS (Trusted RUBIX) supports it, and for us it is basically another 
> level in the naming. (database.catalog.schema.table). I would suggest 
> that a db_catalog object be included with the same basic semantics as 
> the db_schema object.
> 

Is there more information available about how Trusted RUBIX uses SELinux? I see
on the webpage a brief mention of it but no detailed page like the other access
control models, nor in the security policy manager data sheet.

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  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-03-25 17:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 75+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-03-23 10:37 The status of SE-PostgreSQL KaiGai Kohei
2009-03-23 10:37 ` [refpolicy] " KaiGai Kohei
2009-03-23 14:56 ` Shaz
2009-03-23 14:57   ` Shaz
2009-03-23 15:19 ` Andy Warner
2009-03-24  2:14   ` KaiGai Kohei
2009-03-24  2:14     ` [refpolicy] " KaiGai Kohei
2009-03-25  6:54     ` Some ideas in SE-PostgreSQL enhancement (Re: The status of SE-PostgreSQL) KaiGai Kohei
2009-03-25  6:54       ` [refpolicy] " KaiGai Kohei
2009-03-25  7:45       ` Andy Warner
2009-03-25  8:20         ` KaiGai Kohei
2009-03-25  8:59           ` Andy Warner
2009-03-25 12:00             ` KaiGai Kohei
2009-03-25 17:02               ` Andy Warner
2009-03-26  0:13                 ` KaiGai Kohei
2009-03-25 17:43         ` Joshua Brindle [this message]
2009-03-25 19:42           ` Andy Warner
2009-03-27 15:43             ` Joshua Brindle
2009-03-27 16:25               ` Andy Warner
2009-03-27 17:15                 ` Joshua Brindle
2009-03-27 17:54                   ` Andy Warner
2009-03-27 18:12                     ` Joshua Brindle
2009-03-27 18:48                       ` Andy Warner
2009-03-27 19:53                         ` Joshua Brindle
2009-03-27 20:04                           ` Andy Warner
2009-03-27 23:59                           ` KaiGai Kohei
2009-03-28  7:17                             ` Andy Warner
2009-03-30  0:56                               ` KaiGai Kohei
2009-03-30  8:21                                 ` KaiGai Kohei
2009-03-30  9:58                                   ` Andy Warner
2009-03-30 13:22                                     ` KaiGai Kohei
2009-04-22  0:08                                   ` Eamon Walsh
2009-04-22  3:59                                     ` KaiGai Kohei
2009-05-01  4:54                                       ` Eamon Walsh
2009-05-07  1:34                                         ` KaiGai Kohei
2009-05-07  7:24                                           ` KaiGai Kohei
2009-03-30  9:49                                 ` Andy Warner
2009-03-26  5:50       ` [PATCH] Expose avc_netlink_loop() for applications (Re: Some ideas in SE-PostgreSQL enhancement) KaiGai Kohei
2009-03-26 23:28         ` Eamon Walsh
2009-03-26 23:41         ` Eamon Walsh
2009-03-27  0:35           ` KaiGai Kohei
2009-03-28  0:54             ` Eamon Walsh
2009-03-28  2:00               ` KaiGai Kohei
2009-03-30  4:56                 ` KaiGai Kohei
2009-03-26  6:11       ` [PATCH] database audit integration " KaiGai Kohei
2009-03-26  6:11         ` KaiGai Kohei
2009-03-26 21:45         ` John Dennis
     [not found]         ` <49CB313B.7020507@redhat.com>
2009-03-27  2:34           ` KaiGai Kohei
2009-03-27  2:34             ` KaiGai Kohei
2009-03-26  8:29       ` [PATCH] Permissive domain in userspace " KaiGai Kohei
2009-03-28  2:41         ` Eamon Walsh
2009-03-30  2:55           ` KaiGai Kohei
2009-03-31  1:45             ` KaiGai Kohei
2009-03-31 16:46               ` Stephen Smalley
2009-04-01  1:07                 ` [PATCH] Permissive domain in userspace object manager KaiGai Kohei
2009-04-01  1:41                   ` KaiGai Kohei
2009-04-01 12:34                   ` Stephen Smalley
2009-04-01 20:07                     ` Eric Paris
2009-04-01 22:53                   ` James Morris
2009-03-27  8:18       ` [PATCH] Policy rework for SE-PostgreSQL (Re: Some ideas in SE-PostgreSQL enhancement) KaiGai Kohei
2009-03-27  8:18         ` [refpolicy] " KaiGai Kohei
2009-03-27  9:44         ` Andy Warner
2009-03-27 11:20           ` KaiGai Kohei
2009-03-27 11:20             ` [refpolicy] " KaiGai Kohei
2009-03-27 11:45             ` Andy Warner
2009-03-27 11:45               ` [refpolicy] " Andy Warner
2009-03-27 12:17               ` KaiGai Kohei
2009-03-27 12:17                 ` [refpolicy] " KaiGai Kohei
2009-04-01  7:26       ` Correct manner to handler undefined classes/permissions? " KaiGai Kohei
2009-04-01 12:45         ` Stephen Smalley
2009-04-02  0:28           ` KaiGai Kohei
2009-03-23 15:25 ` The status of SE-PostgreSQL Stephen Smalley
2009-03-23 15:25   ` [refpolicy] " Stephen Smalley
2009-03-24  1:13   ` KaiGai Kohei
2009-03-24  1:13     ` [refpolicy] " KaiGai Kohei

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