From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
Cc: Izik Eidus <ieidus@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
linux-mm@kvack.org, avi@redhat.com, chrisw@redhat.com,
riel@redhat.com, jeremy@goop.org, mtosatti@redhat.com,
hugh@veritas.com, corbet@lwn.net, yaniv@redhat.com,
dmonakhov@openvz.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] add ksm kernel shared memory driver.
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 10:09:24 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <49D23224.9000903@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090331150218.GS9137@random.random>
Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 09:37:17AM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>
>> In the very least, if you insist on not using sysfs, you should have a
>> separate character device that's used for control (like /dev/ksmctl).
>>
>
> I'm fine to use sysfs that's not the point, if you've to add a ksmctl
> device, then sysfs is surely better. Besides ksm would normally be
> enabled at boot, tasks jailed by selinux will better not start/stop
> this thing.
>
> If people wants /sys/kernel/mm/ksm instead of the start_stop ioctl we
> surely can add it (provided there's a way to intercept write to the
> sysfs file). Problem is registering memory could also be done with
> 'echo 0 -1 >/proc/self/ksm' and be inherited by childs, it's not just
> start/stop. I mean this is more a matter of taste I'm
> afraid... Personally I'm more concerned about the registering of the
> ram API than the start/stop thing which I cannot care less about,
I don't think the registering of ram should be done via sysfs. That
would be a pretty bad interface IMHO. But I do think the functionality
that ksmctl provides along with the security issues I mentioned earlier
really suggest that there ought to be a separate API for control vs.
registration and that control API would make a lot of sense as a sysfs API.
If you wanted to explore alternative APIs for registration, madvise()
seems like the obvious candidate to me.
madvise(start, size, MADV_SHARABLE) seems like a pretty obvious API to me.
So combining a sysfs interface for control and an madvise() interface
for registration seems like a really nice interface to me.
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
> so
> my logic is that as long as this pseudodevice exists, we should use it
> for everything. If we go away from it, then we should remove it as a
> whole.
>
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Andrea Arcangeli <aarcange@redhat.com>
Cc: Izik Eidus <ieidus@redhat.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
linux-mm@kvack.org, avi@redhat.com, chrisw@redhat.com,
riel@redhat.com, jeremy@goop.org, mtosatti@redhat.com,
hugh@veritas.com, corbet@lwn.net, yaniv@redhat.com,
dmonakhov@openvz.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 4/4] add ksm kernel shared memory driver.
Date: Tue, 31 Mar 2009 10:09:24 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <49D23224.9000903@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090331150218.GS9137@random.random>
Andrea Arcangeli wrote:
> On Tue, Mar 31, 2009 at 09:37:17AM -0500, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>
>> In the very least, if you insist on not using sysfs, you should have a
>> separate character device that's used for control (like /dev/ksmctl).
>>
>
> I'm fine to use sysfs that's not the point, if you've to add a ksmctl
> device, then sysfs is surely better. Besides ksm would normally be
> enabled at boot, tasks jailed by selinux will better not start/stop
> this thing.
>
> If people wants /sys/kernel/mm/ksm instead of the start_stop ioctl we
> surely can add it (provided there's a way to intercept write to the
> sysfs file). Problem is registering memory could also be done with
> 'echo 0 -1 >/proc/self/ksm' and be inherited by childs, it's not just
> start/stop. I mean this is more a matter of taste I'm
> afraid... Personally I'm more concerned about the registering of the
> ram API than the start/stop thing which I cannot care less about,
I don't think the registering of ram should be done via sysfs. That
would be a pretty bad interface IMHO. But I do think the functionality
that ksmctl provides along with the security issues I mentioned earlier
really suggest that there ought to be a separate API for control vs.
registration and that control API would make a lot of sense as a sysfs API.
If you wanted to explore alternative APIs for registration, madvise()
seems like the obvious candidate to me.
madvise(start, size, MADV_SHARABLE) seems like a pretty obvious API to me.
So combining a sysfs interface for control and an madvise() interface
for registration seems like a really nice interface to me.
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
> so
> my logic is that as long as this pseudodevice exists, we should use it
> for everything. If we go away from it, then we should remove it as a
> whole.
>
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Thread overview: 135+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-03-30 23:59 [PATCH 0/4] ksm - dynamic page sharing driver for linux Izik Eidus
2009-03-30 23:59 ` Izik Eidus
2009-03-30 23:59 ` [PATCH 1/4] MMU_NOTIFIERS: add set_pte_at_notify() Izik Eidus
2009-03-30 23:59 ` Izik Eidus
2009-03-30 23:59 ` [PATCH 2/4] add page_wrprotect(): write protecting page Izik Eidus
2009-03-30 23:59 ` Izik Eidus
2009-03-30 23:59 ` [PATCH 3/4] add replace_page(): change the page pte is pointing to Izik Eidus
2009-03-30 23:59 ` Izik Eidus
2009-03-30 23:59 ` [PATCH 4/4] add ksm kernel shared memory driver Izik Eidus
2009-03-30 23:59 ` Izik Eidus
2009-03-31 2:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-03-31 2:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-03-31 12:24 ` Izik Eidus
2009-03-31 12:24 ` Izik Eidus
2009-03-31 13:31 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-03-31 13:31 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-03-31 14:25 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-03-31 14:25 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-03-31 14:37 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-03-31 14:37 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-03-31 15:02 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-03-31 15:02 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-03-31 15:09 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2009-03-31 15:09 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-03-31 15:18 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-03-31 15:18 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-03-31 15:54 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-03-31 15:54 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-03-31 16:25 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-03-31 16:25 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-03-31 16:51 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-03-31 16:51 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-03-31 17:11 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-03-31 17:11 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-04-01 22:54 ` Izik Eidus
2009-04-01 22:54 ` Izik Eidus
2009-04-02 0:31 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-02 0:31 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-02 0:48 ` Chris Wright
2009-04-02 0:48 ` Chris Wright
2009-04-02 1:22 ` Chris Wright
2009-04-02 1:22 ` Chris Wright
2009-04-02 2:36 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-02 2:36 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-02 5:31 ` [PATCH 5/4] update ksm userspace interfaces Chris Wright
2009-04-02 5:31 ` Chris Wright
2009-04-02 13:32 ` Izik Eidus
2009-04-02 13:32 ` Izik Eidus
2009-04-02 15:20 ` Chris Wright
2009-04-02 15:20 ` Chris Wright
2009-04-02 15:56 ` Chris Wright
2009-04-02 15:56 ` Chris Wright
2009-04-02 15:55 ` Izik Eidus
2009-04-02 15:55 ` Izik Eidus
2009-04-03 10:16 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-04-03 10:16 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-04-03 10:49 ` Izik Eidus
2009-04-03 10:49 ` Izik Eidus
2009-04-03 11:08 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-04-03 11:08 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-04-03 16:22 ` Chris Wright
2009-04-03 16:22 ` Chris Wright
2009-04-02 14:41 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-04-02 14:41 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-04-02 15:12 ` Chris Wright
2009-04-02 15:12 ` Chris Wright
2009-04-02 15:25 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-04-02 15:25 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-04-02 5:48 ` [PATCH 4/4 alternative userspace] add ksm kernel shared memory driver Chris Wright
2009-04-02 5:48 ` Chris Wright
2009-04-02 5:57 ` Bert Wesarg
2009-04-02 5:57 ` Bert Wesarg
2009-04-02 5:57 ` Bert Wesarg
2009-04-02 5:59 ` Chris Wright
2009-04-02 5:59 ` Chris Wright
2009-04-02 6:00 ` Bert Wesarg
2009-04-02 6:00 ` Bert Wesarg
2009-04-02 7:09 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-02 7:09 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-02 7:24 ` [PATCH 4/4] " Avi Kivity
2009-04-02 7:24 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-02 9:38 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-04-02 9:38 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-04-02 11:23 ` Izik Eidus
2009-04-02 11:23 ` Izik Eidus
2009-03-31 2:15 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-31 2:15 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-31 12:21 ` Izik Eidus
2009-03-31 12:21 ` Izik Eidus
2009-03-31 23:57 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-03-31 23:57 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-04-01 17:28 ` Izik Eidus
2009-04-01 17:28 ` Izik Eidus
2009-03-31 20:52 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-03-31 20:52 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-03-31 1:42 ` [PATCH 0/4] ksm - dynamic page sharing driver for linux Anthony Liguori
2009-03-31 1:42 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-03-31 12:33 ` Izik Eidus
2009-03-31 12:33 ` Izik Eidus
2009-04-02 19:22 ` Jesper Juhl
2009-04-02 19:22 ` Jesper Juhl
2009-04-02 19:38 ` Izik Eidus
2009-04-02 19:38 ` Izik Eidus
2009-04-02 19:39 ` Chris Wright
2009-04-02 19:39 ` Chris Wright
2009-04-02 19:49 ` Jesper Juhl
2009-04-02 19:49 ` Jesper Juhl
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-04-04 14:35 [PATCH 0/4] ksm - dynamic page sharing driver for linux v2 Izik Eidus
2009-04-04 14:35 ` [PATCH 1/4] MMU_NOTIFIERS: add set_pte_at_notify() Izik Eidus
2009-04-04 14:35 ` [PATCH 2/4] add page_wrprotect(): write protecting page Izik Eidus
2009-04-04 14:35 ` [PATCH 3/4] add replace_page(): change the page pte is pointing to Izik Eidus
2009-04-04 14:35 ` [PATCH 4/4] add ksm kernel shared memory driver Izik Eidus
2009-04-04 14:35 ` Izik Eidus
2009-04-06 9:13 ` Andrey Panin
2009-04-06 9:13 ` Andrey Panin
2009-04-06 10:58 ` Izik Eidus
2009-04-06 10:58 ` Izik Eidus
2009-04-06 10:58 ` Izik Eidus
2009-04-09 3:58 [PATCH 0/4] ksm - dynamic page sharing driver for linux v3 Izik Eidus
2009-04-09 3:58 ` [PATCH 1/4] MMU_NOTIFIERS: add set_pte_at_notify() Izik Eidus
2009-04-09 3:58 ` [PATCH 2/4] add page_wrprotect(): write protecting page Izik Eidus
2009-04-09 3:58 ` [PATCH 3/4] add replace_page(): change the page pte is pointing to Izik Eidus
2009-04-09 3:58 ` [PATCH 4/4] add ksm kernel shared memory driver Izik Eidus
2009-04-09 3:58 ` Izik Eidus
2009-04-14 22:09 ` Andrew Morton
2009-04-14 22:09 ` Andrew Morton
2009-04-14 22:09 ` Andrew Morton
2009-04-15 22:37 ` Izik Eidus
2009-04-15 22:37 ` Izik Eidus
2009-04-15 22:50 ` Andrew Morton
2009-04-15 22:50 ` Andrew Morton
2009-04-15 23:21 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-04-15 23:21 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-04-16 0:43 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-04-16 0:43 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-04-16 0:57 ` Izik Eidus
2009-04-16 0:57 ` Izik Eidus
2009-04-16 11:39 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-04-16 11:39 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-04-16 16:08 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-04-16 16:08 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-04-18 14:58 ` Andrea Arcangeli
2009-04-18 14:58 ` Andrea Arcangeli
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