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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Cc: libvir-list@redhat.com, Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@web.de>,
	Hollis Blanchard <hollisb@us.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [libvirt] Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/6] Allow multiple monitor devices (v2)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 12:15:23 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <49E4542B.8020808@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090414083016.GF14297@redhat.com>

Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
> Yes indeed its a little crazy :-)  As anthony mentioned if libvirt were 
> able to be notified of changes a user makes in the monitor, there's no 
> reason we could not allow end users to access the monitor of a VM 
> libvirt is managing. We just need to make sure libvirt doesn't miss
> changes like attaching or detaching block devices, etc, because that'll
> cause crash/data loss later when libvirt migrates or does save/restore,
> etc because it'll launch QEMU with wrong args
>   

You still have an inherent race here.

user: plug in disk
libvirt: start migration, still without disk
qemu: libvirt, a disk has been plugged in.

>> I don't see how adding those low-level monitory things to libvirt is
>> an improvement - debugging and scripted keystrokes are not the sort of
>> functionality libvirt is for - or is it?
>>     
>
> I think it could probably be argued that sending fake keystrokes could
> be within scope. Random ad-hoc debugging probably out of scope.
>   

That means that to debug a problem in the field you have to locate a 
guest's host, and follow it around as it migrates (or disable migration).

-- 
I have a truly marvellous patch that fixes the bug which this
signature is too narrow to contain.

  reply	other threads:[~2009-04-14  9:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-04-08 18:34 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/6] Allow multiple monitor devices (v2) Anthony Liguori
2009-04-08 18:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/6] Introduce monitor 'wait' command (v2) Anthony Liguori
2009-04-08 18:34   ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/6] Introduce wait filtering (v2) Anthony Liguori
2009-04-08 18:35     ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/6] Document new events (v2) Anthony Liguori
2009-04-08 18:35       ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/6] Implement vm-state notifications (v2) Anthony Liguori
2009-04-08 18:35         ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 6/6] Implement vnc-event " Anthony Liguori
2009-04-08 18:43   ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH 2/6] Introduce monitor 'wait' command (v2) Anthony Liguori
2009-04-08 19:01   ` [Qemu-devel] " Blue Swirl
2009-04-08 19:02     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-09 11:01   ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-09 13:40     ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-09 13:58       ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-09 14:19         ` Jan Kiszka
2009-04-09  8:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/6] Allow multiple monitor devices (v2) Avi Kivity
2009-04-09 13:28   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-09 13:40     ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-09 13:47       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-09 14:03         ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-09 14:13           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-09 14:28             ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-09 14:30               ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-09 14:37                 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-09 14:57                   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-09 15:11                     ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-09 15:40                       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-09 15:57                         ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-09 16:09                           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-09 16:30                             ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-09 16:42                               ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-09 17:00                                 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-09 17:40                                   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-11 16:25                                     ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-11 20:18                                       ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-11 21:14                                         ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-12 18:42                                           ` Jamie Lokier
2009-04-14  8:30                                             ` [libvirt] " Daniel P. Berrange
2009-04-14  9:15                                               ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2009-04-14  9:17                                                 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-04-14  9:29                                                   ` Jan Kiszka
2009-04-14  9:36                                                     ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-14  9:38                                                   ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-14 18:21                                                     ` Jamie Lokier
2009-04-14 18:19                                                 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-04-16  9:03                                                   ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-11 23:16                                       ` Zachary Amsden
2009-04-12  8:23                                         ` Zachary Amsden
2009-04-14  8:28                                           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-04-14 18:20                                             ` Jamie Lokier
2009-04-11 19:11                                 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-11 21:47                                   ` Andreas Färber
2009-04-12 18:44                                     ` Jamie Lokier
2009-04-09 16:01                       ` Jamie Lokier
2009-04-09 14:15           ` [libvirt] " Gerd Hoffmann
2009-04-09 14:19             ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-09 14:56               ` Jan Kiszka
2009-04-09 15:15                 ` François Revol
2009-04-09 15:15                 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-09 15:49                   ` Jan Kiszka
2009-04-09 16:01                     ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-09 16:07                   ` Jamie Lokier
2009-05-11 20:54 ` Hollis Blanchard
2009-05-11 21:51   ` Anthony Liguori
2009-05-12  8:48     ` Avi Kivity

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