From: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@siemens.com>
To: "Daniel P. Berrange" <berrange@redhat.com>
Cc: Hollis Blanchard <hollisb@us.ibm.com>,
libvir-list@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@web.de>, Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [libvirt] Re: [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/6] Allow multiple monitor devices (v2)
Date: Tue, 14 Apr 2009 11:29:30 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <49E4577A.70602@siemens.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090414091726.GL14297@redhat.com>
Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 14, 2009 at 12:15:23PM +0300, Avi Kivity wrote:
>> Daniel P. Berrange wrote:
>>> Yes indeed its a little crazy :-) As anthony mentioned if libvirt were
>>> able to be notified of changes a user makes in the monitor, there's no
>>> reason we could not allow end users to access the monitor of a VM
>>> libvirt is managing. We just need to make sure libvirt doesn't miss
>>> changes like attaching or detaching block devices, etc, because that'll
>>> cause crash/data loss later when libvirt migrates or does save/restore,
>>> etc because it'll launch QEMU with wrong args
>>>
>> You still have an inherent race here.
>>
>> user: plug in disk
>> libvirt: start migration, still without disk
>> qemu: libvirt, a disk has been plugged in.
>
> That is true, but we'd still be considering direct monitor access to
> be a 'expert' user mode of use. If they wish to shoot themselves in
> the foot by triggering a migration at same time they are hotplugging
> I'm fine if their whole leg gets blown away.
...while there is also nothing that speaks against blocking any device
hot-plugging while migration is ongoing. Independent of if there is some
management app involved or the user himself plays with multiple monitors.
Jan
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-04-14 9:29 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 63+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-04-08 18:34 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/6] Allow multiple monitor devices (v2) Anthony Liguori
2009-04-08 18:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/6] Introduce monitor 'wait' command (v2) Anthony Liguori
2009-04-08 18:34 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/6] Introduce wait filtering (v2) Anthony Liguori
2009-04-08 18:35 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/6] Document new events (v2) Anthony Liguori
2009-04-08 18:35 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/6] Implement vm-state notifications (v2) Anthony Liguori
2009-04-08 18:35 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 6/6] Implement vnc-event " Anthony Liguori
2009-04-08 18:43 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH 2/6] Introduce monitor 'wait' command (v2) Anthony Liguori
2009-04-08 19:01 ` [Qemu-devel] " Blue Swirl
2009-04-08 19:02 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-09 11:01 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-09 13:40 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-09 13:58 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-09 14:19 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-04-09 8:19 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/6] Allow multiple monitor devices (v2) Avi Kivity
2009-04-09 13:28 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-09 13:40 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-09 13:47 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-09 14:03 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-09 14:13 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-09 14:28 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-09 14:30 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-09 14:37 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-09 14:57 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-09 15:11 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-09 15:40 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-09 15:57 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-09 16:09 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-09 16:30 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-09 16:42 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-09 17:00 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-09 17:40 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-11 16:25 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-11 20:18 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-11 21:14 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-12 18:42 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-04-14 8:30 ` [libvirt] " Daniel P. Berrange
2009-04-14 9:15 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-14 9:17 ` Daniel P. Berrange
2009-04-14 9:29 ` Jan Kiszka [this message]
2009-04-14 9:36 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-14 9:38 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-14 18:21 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-04-14 18:19 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-04-16 9:03 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-11 23:16 ` Zachary Amsden
2009-04-12 8:23 ` Zachary Amsden
2009-04-14 8:28 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-04-14 18:20 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-04-11 19:11 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-11 21:47 ` Andreas Färber
2009-04-12 18:44 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-04-09 16:01 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-04-09 14:15 ` [libvirt] " Gerd Hoffmann
2009-04-09 14:19 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-09 14:56 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-04-09 15:15 ` François Revol
2009-04-09 15:15 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-09 15:49 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-04-09 16:01 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-09 16:07 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-05-11 20:54 ` Hollis Blanchard
2009-05-11 21:51 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-05-12 8:48 ` Avi Kivity
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