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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
Cc: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>,
	Huang Ying <ying.huang@intel.com>,
	"kvm@vger.kernel.org" <kvm@vger.kernel.org>,
	"linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Add MCE support to KVM
Date: Mon, 20 Apr 2009 15:43:26 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <49EC6DEE.4070703@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <49EC68A7.8080403@redhat.com>

Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
>> That said, I'd like to be able to emulate the Xen HVM hypercalls. But in
>> any case, they hypercall implementation has to be in the kernel,
>
> No.  With Xenner the xen hypercall emulation code lives in guest 
> address space.

In this case the guest ring-0 code should trap the #GP, and install the 
hypercall page (which uses sysenter/syscall?).  No kvm or qemu changes 
needed.

>> Especially if we need to support
>> tricky bits like continuations.
>
> Is there any reason to?  I *think* xen does it for better scheduling 
> latency.  But with xen emulation sitting in guest address space we can 
> schedule the guest at will anyway.

It also improves latency within the guest itself.  At least I think that 
what was the Hyper-V spec is saying.  You can interrupt the execution of 
a long hypercall, inject and interrupt, and resume.  Sort of like a 
rep/movs instruction, which the cpu can and will interrupt.

>>> Same MSR, multiple writes (page number in the low bits).
>>
>> Nasty. The hypervisor has to remember all of the pages, so it can update
>> them for live migration.
>
> Xenner doesn't need update-on-migration, so there is no need at all to 
> remember this.  At the end of the day it is just memcpy(guest, data, 
> PAGESIZE) triggered by wrmsr. 

For Xenner, no (and you don't need to intercept the msr at all), but for 
pv-on-hvm, you do need to update the code.

-- 
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function


  reply	other threads:[~2009-04-20 12:43 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-04-08  1:53 [PATCH] Add MCE support to KVM Huang Ying
2009-04-09 15:50 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-10  3:00   ` Huang Ying
2009-04-11 12:04     ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-11 12:19       ` Andi Kleen
2009-04-11 12:25         ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-13  8:26           ` Andi Kleen
2009-04-13  2:41       ` Huang Ying
2009-04-13 13:02         ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-14  2:04           ` Huang Ying
2009-04-14 10:45             ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-15  7:24               ` Huang Ying
2009-04-18 22:17           ` Anthony Liguori
2009-04-19  8:33             ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-20  7:52               ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-04-20  8:26                 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-20  8:59                   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-04-20  9:05                     ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-20 10:04                       ` Andi Kleen
2009-04-20 11:02                         ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-20 11:23                       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-04-20 11:27                         ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-20 12:20                           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-04-20 12:43                             ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2009-04-20 13:24                               ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-04-20 13:45                                 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-21  9:14                                   ` Xenner design and kvm msr handling Gerd Hoffmann
2009-04-21 10:14                                     ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-21 11:41                                       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-04-21 12:27                                         ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-21 12:47                                           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-04-21 13:33                                             ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-21 16:00                                               ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-04-21 16:15                                                 ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-21 16:15                                                   ` Avi Kivity
2009-04-22 10:02                                                   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-04-22 10:02                                                     ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-04-21 16:04               ` [PATCH] Add MCE support to KVM Anthony Liguori
2009-04-21 16:17                 ` Avi Kivity

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