From: jim owens <jowens@hp.com>
To: Andrey Kuzmin <andrey.v.kuzmin@gmail.com>
Cc: Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com>,
Thomas Glanzmann <thomas@glanzmann.de>,
linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Data Deduplication with the help of an online filesystem check
Date: Tue, 28 Apr 2009 09:58:54 -0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <49F70B9E.7040107@hp.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <2a31deca0904280649w29d9cca8re9c0abc910ff99@mail.gmail.com>
Andrey Kuzmin wrote:
> On Tue, Apr 28, 2009 at 2:02 PM, Chris Mason <chris.mason@oracle.com> wrote:
>> On Tue, 2009-04-28 at 07:22 +0200, Thomas Glanzmann wrote:
>>> Hello Chris,
>>>
>>>> There is a btrfs ioctl to clone individual files, and this could be used
>>>> to implement an online dedup. But, since it is happening from userland,
>>>> you can't lock out all of the other users of a given file.
>>>> So, the dedup application would be responsible for making sure a given
>>>> file was not being changed while the dedup scan was running.
>>> I see, does that mean that I can not do ,,dedup'' for files that are
>>> currently opened by a userland program?
>> No, but it does mean the dedup done from userland is racey. Picture
>
> Race disappears if (background) dedupe is run against snapshot(s).
only if the snapshots are made read-only.
btrfs has writable snapshots.
jim
>
> Regards,
> Andrey
>
>> this:
>>
>> process A:
>> create some_file # some_file matches the contents of another file
>>
>> dedup proc:
>> check some_file
>> decide to start block dedup
>>
>> process A:
>> modify some_file
>>
>> dedup proc:
>> progress through block dedup
>>
>> So, this will happily replace blocks in some_file with the dedup blocks.
>> But there's no way to atomically swap them.
>>
>> We could create new ioctls for this, basically a variant of the clone
>> file ioctl that makes sure a given set of pages has a given sum (or
>> strict memory contents) before doing the swap.
>>
>> But they don't exist yet.
>>
>> -chris
>>
>>
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next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-04-28 13:58 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 67+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-04-27 3:33 Data Deduplication with the help of an online filesystem check Thomas Glanzmann
2009-04-27 13:37 ` Chris Mason
2009-04-28 5:22 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2009-04-28 10:02 ` Chris Mason
2009-04-28 13:49 ` Andrey Kuzmin
2009-04-28 13:58 ` Chris Mason
2009-04-28 14:04 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2009-04-28 17:21 ` Chris Mason
2009-04-28 20:10 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2009-04-28 20:29 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2009-04-28 13:58 ` jim owens [this message]
2009-04-28 16:10 ` Anthony Roberts
2009-04-28 15:59 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2009-04-28 16:04 ` Tomasz Chmielewski
2009-04-28 17:29 ` Edward Shishkin
2009-04-28 17:34 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2009-04-28 17:38 ` Chris Mason
2009-04-28 17:43 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2009-04-28 17:45 ` Heinz-Josef Claes
2009-04-28 20:16 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2009-04-28 20:36 ` Heinz-Josef Claes
2009-04-28 20:52 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2009-04-28 20:58 ` Chris Mason
2009-04-28 21:12 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2009-04-28 21:26 ` Chris Mason
2009-04-28 22:14 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2009-04-28 23:18 ` Chris Mason
2009-04-29 12:03 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2009-04-29 13:11 ` Michael Tharp
2009-04-29 13:14 ` Chris Mason
2009-04-29 13:58 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2009-04-29 14:31 ` Chris Mason
2009-04-29 15:26 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2009-04-29 15:45 ` Chris Mason
2009-06-04 8:49 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2009-06-04 11:43 ` Chris Mason
2009-06-04 12:03 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2009-06-04 12:43 ` Chris Mason
2009-06-05 12:20 ` Tomasz Chmielewski
2009-06-05 12:50 ` Chris Mason
2009-06-05 15:35 ` Tomasz Chmielewski
2009-04-29 0:06 ` Bron Gondwana
2009-05-06 15:16 ` Sander
2009-04-28 17:32 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2009-04-28 17:41 ` Michael Tharp
2009-04-28 20:14 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2009-05-04 14:29 ` Ric Wheeler
2009-05-04 14:39 ` Tomasz Chmielewski
2009-05-04 14:45 ` Ric Wheeler
2009-05-04 15:15 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2009-05-04 16:03 ` Ric Wheeler
2009-05-04 16:16 ` Andrey Kuzmin
2009-05-04 16:24 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2009-05-04 18:06 ` Jan-Frode Myklebust
2009-05-04 19:16 ` Andrey Kuzmin
2009-05-05 8:02 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2009-05-04 16:26 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2009-05-04 19:11 ` Heinz-Josef Claes
2009-05-04 21:29 ` Dmitri Nikulin
2009-05-05 7:18 ` Heinz-Josef Claes
2009-05-24 7:27 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2009-04-28 17:23 ` Chris Mason
2009-04-28 17:37 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2009-04-28 17:43 ` Chris Mason
2009-04-28 20:15 ` Thomas Glanzmann
2009-04-28 21:19 ` Dmitri Nikulin
2009-04-28 20:24 ` Thomas Glanzmann
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