From: Christian Ehrhardt <ehrhardt@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
To: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
Cc: kvm@vger.kernel.org,
Christian Borntraeger <borntraeger@de.ibm.com>,
Carsten Otte <cotte@de.ibm.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/6] kvm-s390: Fix memory slot versus run
Date: Mon, 11 May 2009 16:42:30 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A083956.2000200@linux.vnet.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A082FF3.4060908@redhat.com>
Avi Kivity wrote:
> Christian Ehrhardt wrote:
>>>> I thought about implementing it with slots_lock, vcpu->request, etc
>>>> but it really looks like overkill for s390.
>>>
>>> We could make (some of) it common code, so it won't look so bad.
>>> There's value in having all kvm ports do things similarly; though of
>>> course we shouldn't force the solution when it isn't really needed.
>>>
>>> vcpu->requests is useful whenever we modify global VM state that
>>> needs to be seen by all vcpus in host mode; see
>>> kvm_reload_remote_mmus().
>> yeah I read that code after your first hint in that thread, and I
>> agree that merging some of this into common code might be good.
>> But in my opinion not now for this bugfix patch (the intention is
>> just to prevent a user being able to crash the host via vcpu
>> create,set mem& and vcpu run in that order).
>> It might be a good point to further streamline this once we use the
>> same userspace code, but I think it doesn't make sense yet.
>
> Sure, don't mix bugfixes with infrastructure changes, when possible.
>
>>>> At least today we can assume that we only have one memslot.
>>>> Therefore a set_memslot with already created vcpu's will still not
>>>> interfere with running vcpus (they can't run without memslot and
>>>> since we have only one they won't run).
>>>> Anyway I the code is prepared to "meet" running vcpus, because it
>>>> might be different in future. To prevent the livelock issue I
>>>> changed the code using mutex_trylock and in case I can't get the
>>>> lock I explicitly let the vcpu exit from guest.
>>>
>>> Why not do it unconditionally?
>>>
>> hmm I might have written that misleading - eventually it's a loop
>> until it got the lock
>> while !trylock
>> kick vcpu out of guest
>> schedule
>>
>> There is no reason to kick out guests where I got the lock cleanly as
>> far as I see.
>> Especially as I expect the vcpus not running in the common case as i
>> explained above (can't run without memslot + we only have one => no
>> vcpu will run).
>
> Still livelockable, unless you stop the vcpu from entering the guest
> immediately.
>
> That's why vcpu->requests is so powerful. Not only you kick the vcpu
> out of guest mode, you force it to synchronize when it tries to enter
> again.
>
The bad thing on vcpu->request in that case is that I don't want the
async behaviour of vcpu->requests in that case, I want the memory slot
updated in all vcpu's when the ioctl is returning.
Looking at vcpu->request based solution I don't find the synchronization
I need. The changes to vcpu->arch.guest_origin/guest_memsize and the
changes to vcpu->arch.sie_block->gmsor/gmslm need to happen without the
vcpu running.
Therefor i want the vcpu lock _before_ I update the both structs,
otherwise it could be racy (at least on s390).
On the other hand while it is very++ unlikely to happen you are still
right that it could theoretically livelock there.
I might use vcpu->request in to not enter vcpu run again after such a
"kick" out of guest state.
It would be checked on vcpu_run enter and could then drop the lock, call
schedule, relock and check the flag again until it is cleared.
I'm not yet happy with this solution as I expect it to end up in
something like a reference count which then would not fit into the
existing vcpu->request flags :-/
As I mentioned above the changes to vcpu->arch and vcpu->arch->sie_block
have to be exclusive with the vcpu not running.
If I would find something as "transport" for the information I have on
set_memory_slot (origin/size) until the next vcpu_run entry I could do
both changes there synchronously.
In that case I could really use your suggested solution with
vcpu->request, kick out unconditionally and set values on next (re-)entry.
Hmmm .. Maybe I can find all I need on reentry in vcpu->kvm->memslots[].
If I can change it that way it will definitely require some testing.
... to be continued :-)
--
Grüsse / regards,
Christian Ehrhardt
IBM Linux Technology Center, Open Virtualization
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-05-11 14:42 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 26+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-05-05 14:39 [PATCH 0/6] kvm-s390: collection of kvm-s390 fixes ehrhardt
2009-05-05 14:39 ` [PATCH 1/6] kvm-s390: Fix memory slot versus run ehrhardt
2009-05-06 12:01 ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-11 13:00 ` Christian Ehrhardt
2009-05-11 13:15 ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-11 13:46 ` Christian Ehrhardt
2009-05-11 14:02 ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-11 14:42 ` Christian Ehrhardt [this message]
2009-05-11 15:01 ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-12 9:15 ` Christian Ehrhardt
2009-05-12 11:35 ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-12 13:33 ` Christian Ehrhardt
2009-05-17 22:31 ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-20 12:05 ` Christian Ehrhardt
2009-05-05 14:39 ` [PATCH 2/6] kvm-s390: use hrtimer for clock wakeup from idle ehrhardt
2009-05-06 12:10 ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-06 12:36 ` Christian Borntraeger
2009-05-07 10:19 ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-07 10:34 ` Christian Borntraeger
2009-05-20 15:48 ` Hollis Blanchard
2009-05-05 14:39 ` [PATCH 3/6] kvm-s390: optimize float int lock: spin_lock_bh --> spin_lock ehrhardt
2009-05-05 14:39 ` [PATCH 4/6] kvm-s390: Unlink vcpu on destroy ehrhardt
2009-05-06 12:11 ` Avi Kivity
2009-05-11 13:00 ` Christian Ehrhardt
2009-05-05 14:39 ` [PATCH 5/6] kvm-s390: Sanity check on validity intercept ehrhardt
2009-05-05 14:39 ` [PATCH 6/6] kvm-s390: Verify memory in kvm run ehrhardt
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