wiki, README and TODO update

wiki, README and TODO update

[Harald Hoyer]

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Today I updated http://apps.sourceforge.net/trac/dracut/ and the package README and TODO files.
The next days, I will add iSCSI support and test various network setups.


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Re: wiki, README and TODO update

[Victor Lowther]

On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 16:50 +0200, Harald Hoyer wrote:
> Today I updated http://apps.sourceforge.net/trac/dracut/ and the package README and TODO files.
> The next days, I will add iSCSI support and test various network setups.

Cool.  I ahve been working on some test suite improvements (lvm on
cryptroot on software raid5), and am working on making dracut actually
work in that configuration.  I will post patches to the mailing list
once it works without manual hackery.

Next stop, all that over iscsi.  Should be fun.

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Re: wiki, README and TODO update

[David Dillow]

On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 20:32 -0500, Victor Lowther wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 16:50 +0200, Harald Hoyer wrote:
> > Today I updated http://apps.sourceforge.net/trac/dracut/ and the package README and TODO files.
> > The next days, I will add iSCSI support and test various network setups.
> 
> Cool.  I ahve been working on some test suite improvements (lvm on
> cryptroot on software raid5), and am working on making dracut actually
> work in that configuration.  I will post patches to the mailing list
> once it works without manual hackery.
> 
> Next stop, all that over iscsi.  Should be fun.

Glad to see this project isn't dead...

I've got a few boot-off-of-NFS patches together that use DHCP options to
find the root, and let it be overridden by the command line. I've also
got a piece that lets it boot over a bonded network. I'll try to circle
back to those and post them before Memorial Day (May 25h).

These all trigger off of udev events, though I recall there was some
discussion about whether that was the way to go or not. In many ways,
they are just polish on some of the network patches that have been
posted here before (by you two, IIRC).

Dave

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Re: wiki, README and TODO update

[Harald Hoyer]

On 05/15/2009 03:32 AM, Victor Lowther wrote:
> On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 16:50 +0200, Harald Hoyer wrote:
>> Today I updated http://apps.sourceforge.net/trac/dracut/ and the package README and TODO files.
>> The next days, I will add iSCSI support and test various network setups.
>
> Cool.  I ahve been working on some test suite improvements (lvm on
> cryptroot on software raid5), and am working on making dracut actually
> work in that configuration.  I will post patches to the mailing list
> once it works without manual hackery.
>
> Next stop, all that over iscsi.  Should be fun.
>

With lvm and raid we should wait for the new versions of these tools.
The tools and udev rules have been revamped and the need for non-udev calls 
(like "dmraid -ay") should have been eliminated.
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Re: wiki, README and TODO update

[Victor Lowther]

On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 22:53 -0400, David Dillow wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 20:32 -0500, Victor Lowther wrote:
> > On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 16:50 +0200, Harald Hoyer wrote:
> > > Today I updated http://apps.sourceforge.net/trac/dracut/ and the package README and TODO files.
> > > The next days, I will add iSCSI support and test various network setups.
> > 
> > Cool.  I ahve been working on some test suite improvements (lvm on
> > cryptroot on software raid5), and am working on making dracut actually
> > work in that configuration.  I will post patches to the mailing list
> > once it works without manual hackery.
> > 
> > Next stop, all that over iscsi.  Should be fun.
> 
> Glad to see this project isn't dead...

I had a sudden attack of Real Life -- my daughter learned to crawl, so
the tiny amounts of free time I once had vanished.

> I've got a few boot-off-of-NFS patches together that use DHCP options to
> find the root, and let it be overridden by the command line. I've also
> got a piece that lets it boot over a bonded network. I'll try to circle
> back to those and post them before Memorial Day (May 25h).

Cool.  Can you also hack up a makefile target that tests it using kvm
and/or qemu?

I suppose I should post my more generic test suite improvements (making
kvm/qemu work no matter what it is named on any given distro) to give
you something a little easier to build with.

> These all trigger off of udev events, though I recall there was some
> discussion about whether that was the way to go or not. In many ways,
> they are just polish on some of the network patches that have been
> posted here before (by you two, IIRC).

I don't think we ever finally decided one way or the other, the
conversations kind of died off without reaching a conclusion.

> Dave
> 
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LPIC-2# LPI000140019

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Re: wiki, README and TODO update

[Victor Lowther]

On Fri, 2009-05-15 at 09:33 +0200, Harald Hoyer wrote:
> On 05/15/2009 03:32 AM, Victor Lowther wrote:
> > On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 16:50 +0200, Harald Hoyer wrote:
> >> Today I updated http://apps.sourceforge.net/trac/dracut/ and the package README and TODO files.
> >> The next days, I will add iSCSI support and test various network setups.
> >
> > Cool.  I ahve been working on some test suite improvements (lvm on
> > cryptroot on software raid5), and am working on making dracut actually
> > work in that configuration.  I will post patches to the mailing list
> > once it works without manual hackery.
> >
> > Next stop, all that over iscsi.  Should be fun.
> >
> 
> With lvm and raid we should wait for the new versions of these tools.
> The tools and udev rules have been revamped and the need for non-udev calls 
> (like "dmraid -ay") should have been eliminated.

Well, the software RAID stuff I have been working on is all mdadm -I
type stuff.  I have not been messing with dmraid.

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Re: wiki, README and TODO update

[Harald Hoyer]

On 05/15/2009 02:03 PM, Victor Lowther wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 22:53 -0400, David Dillow wrote:
>> On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 20:32 -0500, Victor Lowther wrote:
>>> On Tue, 2009-05-12 at 16:50 +0200, Harald Hoyer wrote:
>>>> Today I updated http://apps.sourceforge.net/trac/dracut/ and the package README and TODO files.
>>>> The next days, I will add iSCSI support and test various network setups.
>>> Cool.  I ahve been working on some test suite improvements (lvm on
>>> cryptroot on software raid5), and am working on making dracut actually
>>> work in that configuration.  I will post patches to the mailing list
>>> once it works without manual hackery.
>>>
>>> Next stop, all that over iscsi.  Should be fun.
>> Glad to see this project isn't dead...
>
> I had a sudden attack of Real Life -- my daughter learned to crawl, so
> the tiny amounts of free time I once had vanished.

cool :-) not so good for dracut :-/

>
>> I've got a few boot-off-of-NFS patches together that use DHCP options to
>> find the root, and let it be overridden by the command line. I've also
>> got a piece that lets it boot over a bonded network. I'll try to circle
>> back to those and post them before Memorial Day (May 25h).
>
> Cool.  Can you also hack up a makefile target that tests it using kvm
> and/or qemu?
>
> I suppose I should post my more generic test suite improvements (making
> kvm/qemu work no matter what it is named on any given distro) to give
> you something a little easier to build with.

yes, just post them, no matter, if they apply to the actual tree.. I will merge 
them and clean them up.

>
>> These all trigger off of udev events, though I recall there was some
>> discussion about whether that was the way to go or not. In many ways,
>> they are just polish on some of the network patches that have been
>> posted here before (by you two, IIRC).
>
> I don't think we ever finally decided one way or the other, the
> conversations kind of died off without reaching a conclusion.
>

I think "all trigger off of udev events" is the way to go. If it doesn't work, 
try to fix the tools that do not work.
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Re: wiki, README and TODO update

[David Dillow]

On Fri, 2009-05-15 at 07:03 -0500, Victor Lowther wrote:
> On Thu, 2009-05-14 at 22:53 -0400, David Dillow wrote:
> > Glad to see this project isn't dead...
> 
> I had a sudden attack of Real Life -- my daughter learned to crawl, so
> the tiny amounts of free time I once had vanished.

I hope you enjoyed it while it lasted -- once they learn to walk your
free time goes negative! :)

> > I've got a few boot-off-of-NFS patches together that use DHCP options to
> > find the root, and let it be overridden by the command line. I've also
> > got a piece that lets it boot over a bonded network. I'll try to circle
> > back to those and post them before Memorial Day (May 25h).
> 
> Cool.  Can you also hack up a makefile target that tests it using kvm
> and/or qemu?

Most likely. I've been using libvirtd for my testing, but it shouldn't
be too hard to do.

> I suppose I should post my more generic test suite improvements (making
> kvm/qemu work no matter what it is named on any given distro) to give
> you something a little easier to build with.

If you get there first, cool. If not, I'm sure we'll be able to merge
our work.

> > These all trigger off of udev events, though I recall there was some
> > discussion about whether that was the way to go or not. In many ways,
> > they are just polish on some of the network patches that have been
> > posted here before (by you two, IIRC).
> 
> I don't think we ever finally decided one way or the other, the
> conversations kind of died off without reaching a conclusion.

Well, we'll have something concrete to tear apart then. :)

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Re: wiki, README and TODO update

[Seewer Philippe]

Victor Lowther wrote:
[snip]
> I had a sudden attack of Real Life -- my daughter learned to crawl, so
> the tiny amounts of free time I once had vanished.

Hehe! Congratulations. Just wait until she learns to walk or talk. Or 
have her own opinion come to that... ;-)
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Re: wiki, README and TODO update

[Seewer Philippe]

Harald Hoyer wrote:
> Today I updated http://apps.sourceforge.net/trac/dracut/ and the package 
> README and TODO files.
> The next days, I will add iSCSI support and test various network setups.

Wonderful and Thank you Harald! Good to hear that it's going forward!

Sorry for beeing silent for a while. Other stuff and projects had higher 
priority. But getting our netboot production system up to Debian5 (with 
dracut) is next on the list, so expect patches during the next weeks.

Regards,
Philippe
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Re: wiki, README and TODO update

[Seewer Philippe]

David Dillow wrote:
[snip]
> These all trigger off of udev events, though I recall there was some
> discussion about whether that was the way to go or not. In many ways,
> they are just polish on some of the network patches that have been
> posted here before (by you two, IIRC).

The consesus was to try and do as much as possible from within udev.

I've been fiddling a bit with udev trying to improve the network patches 
I sent a while ago but I can't get to the point where I'm able to tell 
udev that a network device was configured. Detected: yes. Configured: 
no. Ideas are welcome.

Regards,
Philippe

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