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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>,
	the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] xen /proc/mtrr implementation
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 16:03:23 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A148C3B.5050100@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090520225235.GJ8684@one.firstfloor.org>

Andi Kleen wrote:
>>> Is this new interface only defined for swiotlb or MMIO mappings?
>>> If yes did you check the drivers only actually set it on
>>> swiotlb or MMIO (that seems dubious to me)?
>> Really?   Do we ever set unusual memory types on normal system memory?  
> 
> There were drivers at some point that set WC MTRRs on their
> transfer rings, not mmio.
> 
> Maybe these all switched to PAT now, maybe not

Most of those that I've heard of use WB memory and CLFLUSH.

The ones I know of which marked descriptor rings WB were ones which had
descriptor rings in MMIO space (which makes sense: MMIO reads are fully
synchronizing, but writes can be posted and write combined.)

	-hpa


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From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>
Cc: Jeremy Fitzhardinge <jeremy@goop.org>,
	Xen-devel <xen-devel@lists.xensource.com>,
	the arch/x86 maintainers <x86@kernel.org>,
	Linux Kernel Mailing List <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	Jesse Barnes <jbarnes@virtuousgeek.org>,
	"Eric W. Biederman" <ebiederm@xmission.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>
Subject: Re: [GIT PULL] xen /proc/mtrr implementation
Date: Wed, 20 May 2009 16:03:23 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A148C3B.5050100@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090520225235.GJ8684@one.firstfloor.org>

Andi Kleen wrote:
>>> Is this new interface only defined for swiotlb or MMIO mappings?
>>> If yes did you check the drivers only actually set it on
>>> swiotlb or MMIO (that seems dubious to me)?
>> Really?   Do we ever set unusual memory types on normal system memory?  
> 
> There were drivers at some point that set WC MTRRs on their
> transfer rings, not mmio.
> 
> Maybe these all switched to PAT now, maybe not

Most of those that I've heard of use WB memory and CLFLUSH.

The ones I know of which marked descriptor rings WB were ones which had
descriptor rings in MMIO space (which makes sense: MMIO reads are fully
synchronizing, but writes can be posted and write combined.)

	-hpa

  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-05-20 23:05 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 73+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-05-12 23:27 [GIT PULL] xen /proc/mtrr implementation Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-05-12 23:27 ` [PATCH 1/6] xen: set cpu_callout_mask to make mtrr work Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-05-12 23:27 ` [PATCH 2/6] xen mtrr: Use specific cpu_has_foo macros instead of generic cpu_has() Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-05-12 23:27 ` [PATCH 3/6] xen mtrr: Use generic_validate_add_page() Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-05-12 23:27 ` [PATCH 4/6] xen mtrr: Implement xen_get_free_region() Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-05-12 23:27 ` [PATCH 5/6] xen mtrr: Add xen_{get,set}_mtrr() implementations Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-05-12 23:27 ` [PATCH 6/6] xen mtrr: Kill some unnecessary includes Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-05-13 13:30 ` [GIT PULL] xen /proc/mtrr implementation Ingo Molnar
2009-05-13 13:30   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-05-13 14:39   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-05-13 14:39     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-05-15 18:27     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-05-15 18:27       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-05-15 20:09       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-05-15 20:09         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-05-15 23:26         ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-15 23:49           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-05-15 23:49             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-05-16  3:22             ` Jesse Barnes
2009-05-16  3:22               ` Jesse Barnes
2009-05-16  4:26               ` Eric W. Biederman
2009-05-16 18:22                 ` Jesse Barnes
2009-05-16 18:22                   ` Jesse Barnes
2009-05-18  5:02                   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-05-18  5:02                     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-05-18  4:57                 ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-05-18  4:57                   ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-05-18  8:59                   ` Ingo Molnar
2009-05-18  8:59                     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-05-18 13:17                     ` [Xen-devel] " Jan Beulich
2009-05-18 17:51                     ` Chris Wright
2009-05-18 18:07                     ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-05-18 18:07                       ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-05-19  9:59                       ` Ingo Molnar
2009-05-19  9:59                         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-05-19 10:22                         ` [Xen-devel] " Jan Beulich
2009-05-19 10:22                           ` Jan Beulich
2009-05-19 11:08                           ` [Xen-devel] " Ingo Molnar
2009-05-19 11:08                             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-05-19 12:04                             ` [Xen-devel] " Gerd Hoffmann
2009-05-19 12:04                               ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-05-19 12:26                               ` [Xen-devel] " Ingo Molnar
2009-05-19 12:26                                 ` Ingo Molnar
2009-05-19 12:32                                 ` [Xen-devel] " Alan Cox
2009-05-19 12:32                                   ` Alan Cox
2009-05-19 12:37                                   ` [Xen-devel] " Ingo Molnar
2009-05-19 12:37                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-05-19 13:21                                 ` [Xen-devel] " Gerd Hoffmann
2009-05-19 13:21                                   ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-05-19 13:31                                   ` [Xen-devel] " Ingo Molnar
2009-05-19 13:31                                     ` Ingo Molnar
2009-05-19 13:51                                     ` [Xen-devel] " Gerd Hoffmann
2009-05-19 13:51                                       ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-05-19 14:17                                       ` [Xen-devel] " Ingo Molnar
2009-05-19 14:17                                         ` Ingo Molnar
2009-05-19 14:55                                         ` [Xen-devel] " Gerd Hoffmann
2009-05-19 14:55                                           ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-05-19 15:24                                           ` [Xen-devel] " Ingo Molnar
2009-05-19 15:24                                             ` Ingo Molnar
2009-05-20  8:01                                             ` [Xen-devel] " Gerd Hoffmann
2009-05-20  8:01                                               ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-05-20 16:35                             ` [Xen-devel] " Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-05-20 16:35                               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-05-20 16:12                         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-05-20 16:12                           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-05-20  8:16                       ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-20 16:39                         ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-05-20 16:39                           ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-05-20 22:52                           ` Andi Kleen
2009-05-20 22:49                             ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-05-20 22:49                               ` Jeremy Fitzhardinge
2009-05-20 23:03                             ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2009-05-20 23:03                               ` H. Peter Anvin

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