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From: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
To: "Larry H." <research@subreption.com>
Cc: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>,
	Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, pageexec@freemail.hu
Subject: Re: Security fix for remapping of page 0 (was [PATCH] Change	ZERO_SIZE_PTR to point at unmapped space)
Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2009 12:36:25 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A26A689.1090300@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090603162831.GF6701@oblivion.subreption.com>

Larry H. wrote:

> Christopher, crippling the system is truly not the way to fix this.
> There are many legitimate users of private|fixed mappings at 0. In
> addition, if you want to go ahead and break POSIX, at least make sure
> your patch closes the loophole.

I suspect there aren't many at all, and restricting them through
SELinux may be enough to mitigate the risk.

> If SELinux isn't present, that's not useful. If mmap_min_addr is
> enabled, that still won't solve what my original, utterly simple patch
> fixes.

Would anybody paranoid run their system without SELinux?

> The patch provides a no-impact, clean solution to prevent kmalloc(0)
> situations from becoming a security hazard. Nothing else.

True, the changes in your patch only affect a few code paths.

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From: Rik van Riel <riel@redhat.com>
To: "Larry H." <research@subreption.com>
Cc: Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>,
	Stephen Smalley <sds@tycho.nsa.gov>,
	Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-mm@kvack.org, Alan Cox <alan@lxorguk.ukuu.org.uk>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, pageexec@freemail.hu
Subject: Re: Security fix for remapping of page 0 (was [PATCH] Change	ZERO_SIZE_PTR to point at unmapped space)
Date: Wed, 03 Jun 2009 12:36:25 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A26A689.1090300@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090603162831.GF6701@oblivion.subreption.com>

Larry H. wrote:

> Christopher, crippling the system is truly not the way to fix this.
> There are many legitimate users of private|fixed mappings at 0. In
> addition, if you want to go ahead and break POSIX, at least make sure
> your patch closes the loophole.

I suspect there aren't many at all, and restricting them through
SELinux may be enough to mitigate the risk.

> If SELinux isn't present, that's not useful. If mmap_min_addr is
> enabled, that still won't solve what my original, utterly simple patch
> fixes.

Would anybody paranoid run their system without SELinux?

> The patch provides a no-impact, clean solution to prevent kmalloc(0)
> situations from becoming a security hazard. Nothing else.

True, the changes in your patch only affect a few code paths.

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  reply	other threads:[~2009-06-03 16:37 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 114+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-05-30 19:28 [PATCH] Change ZERO_SIZE_PTR to point at unmapped space Larry H.
2009-05-30 19:28 ` Larry H.
2009-05-30 22:29 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-05-30 22:29   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-05-30 23:00   ` Larry H.
2009-05-30 23:00     ` Larry H.
2009-05-31  2:02     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-05-31  2:02       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-05-31  2:21       ` Larry H.
2009-05-31  2:21         ` Larry H.
2009-06-02 15:37         ` Christoph Lameter
2009-06-02 15:37           ` Christoph Lameter
2009-06-02 20:34           ` Larry H.
2009-06-02 20:34             ` Larry H.
2009-06-03 14:50             ` Security fix for remapping of page 0 (was [PATCH] Change ZERO_SIZE_PTR to point at unmapped space) Christoph Lameter
2009-06-03 14:50               ` Christoph Lameter
2009-06-03 15:07               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-03 15:07                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-03 15:23                 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-06-03 15:23                   ` Christoph Lameter
2009-06-03 15:38                   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-03 15:38                     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-03 16:14                     ` Alan Cox
2009-06-03 16:14                       ` Alan Cox
2009-06-03 16:19                       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-03 16:19                         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-03 16:24                         ` Eric Paris
2009-06-03 16:24                           ` Eric Paris
2009-06-03 16:22                     ` Eric Paris
2009-06-03 16:22                       ` Eric Paris
2009-06-03 16:28                       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-03 16:28                         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-03 16:32                         ` Eric Paris
2009-06-03 16:32                           ` Eric Paris
2009-06-03 16:44                           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-03 16:44                             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-03 15:11               ` Stephen Smalley
2009-06-03 15:11                 ` Stephen Smalley
2009-06-03 15:41                 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-06-03 15:41                   ` Christoph Lameter
2009-06-03 16:18                   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-03 16:18                     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-03 16:28                   ` Larry H.
2009-06-03 16:28                     ` Larry H.
2009-06-03 16:36                     ` Rik van Riel [this message]
2009-06-03 16:36                       ` Rik van Riel
2009-06-03 16:47                       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-03 16:47                         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-03 17:16                         ` Eric Paris
2009-06-03 17:16                           ` Eric Paris
2009-06-03 17:28                           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-03 17:28                             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-03 17:31                             ` Eric Paris
2009-06-03 17:31                               ` Eric Paris
2009-06-03 17:24                         ` Larry H.
2009-06-03 17:24                           ` Larry H.
2009-06-03 17:21                       ` Larry H.
2009-06-03 17:21                         ` Larry H.
2009-06-03 22:52                         ` James Morris
2009-06-03 22:52                           ` James Morris
2009-06-03 17:29               ` Alan Cox
2009-06-03 17:29                 ` Alan Cox
2009-06-03 17:35                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-03 17:35                   ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-03 18:00                   ` Larry H.
2009-06-03 18:00                     ` Larry H.
2009-06-03 18:12                     ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-03 18:12                       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-03 18:39                       ` Larry H.
2009-06-03 18:39                         ` Larry H.
2009-06-03 18:45                         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-03 18:45                           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-03 18:50                           ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-03 18:50                             ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-03 18:59                             ` Christoph Lameter
2009-06-03 18:59                               ` Christoph Lameter
2009-06-03 19:11                               ` Rik van Riel
2009-06-03 19:11                                 ` Rik van Riel
2009-06-03 19:14                               ` Eric Paris
2009-06-03 19:14                                 ` Eric Paris
2009-06-03 19:42                                 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-06-03 19:42                                   ` Christoph Lameter
2009-06-03 19:51                                   ` Eric Paris
2009-06-03 19:51                                     ` Eric Paris
2009-06-03 20:04                                     ` Christoph Lameter
2009-06-03 20:04                                       ` Christoph Lameter
2009-06-03 20:16                                       ` Eric Paris
2009-06-03 20:16                                         ` Eric Paris
2009-06-03 20:36                                         ` Christoph Lameter
2009-06-03 20:36                                           ` Christoph Lameter
2009-06-03 21:20                                       ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-03 21:20                                         ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-04  2:41                                       ` James Morris
2009-06-04  2:41                                         ` James Morris
2009-06-03 19:21                               ` Alan Cox
2009-06-03 19:21                                 ` Alan Cox
2009-06-03 19:45                                 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-06-03 19:45                                   ` Christoph Lameter
2009-06-03 21:07                                   ` Alan Cox
2009-06-03 21:07                                     ` Alan Cox
2009-06-03 19:27                               ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-03 19:27                                 ` Linus Torvalds
2009-06-03 19:50                                 ` Christoph Lameter
2009-06-03 19:50                                   ` Christoph Lameter
2009-06-03 20:00                             ` pageexec
2009-06-03 20:00                               ` pageexec
2009-06-03 19:41                           ` pageexec
2009-06-03 19:41                             ` pageexec
2009-06-07 10:29               ` Pavel Machek
2009-06-07 10:29                 ` Pavel Machek
2009-05-30 22:32 ` [PATCH] Change ZERO_SIZE_PTR to point at unmapped space Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-30 22:32   ` Peter Zijlstra
2009-05-30 22:51   ` Larry H.
2009-05-30 22:51     ` Larry H.

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