* ifup async race problem
@ 2009-06-10 21:52 Warren Togami
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From: Warren Togami @ 2009-06-10 21:52 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: initramfs-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA
modules.d/40network/60-net.rules
ACTION=="add", SUBSYSTEM=="net", RUN+="/sbin/ifup $env{INTERFACE}"
ACTION=="online", SUBSYSTEM=="net", RUN+="/sbin/netroot $env{INTERFACE}"
This works just fine if you have a single interface. But if you have
more than one interface bad things can happen. If you have two or more
interfaces and root=dhcp, the ifup udev rule attempts to dhclient on all
interfaces simultaneously.
This can be a problem in cases where two or more interfaces are on DHCP
networks. The udev rule kicked off both interfaces simultaneously, so
there is no way to guarantee which of the two will succeed to mount the
rootfs. In my testing this means eth0 or eth1 unpredictably mounted the
rootfs. The other interface meanwhile is configured to an IP address
and has routes added. DNS and routes configured could be either
interface as well.
Locking so only one interface can ifup at a time wont exactly help here,
because you still cannot predict which interface will go first.
It seems we have no way to make it predictable (eth0 attempts before
eth1) while doing ifup from a udev event?
Warren Togami
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* Re: ifup async race problem
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@ 2009-06-10 23:14 ` Victor Lowther
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From: Victor Lowther @ 2009-06-10 23:14 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Warren Togami; +Cc: initramfs-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA
On Wed, 2009-06-10 at 17:52 -0400, Warren Togami wrote:
> modules.d/40network/60-net.rules
>
> ACTION=="add", SUBSYSTEM=="net", RUN+="/sbin/ifup $env{INTERFACE}"
> ACTION=="online", SUBSYSTEM=="net", RUN+="/sbin/netroot $env{INTERFACE}"
>
> This works just fine if you have a single interface. But if you have
> more than one interface bad things can happen. If you have two or more
> interfaces and root=dhcp, the ifup udev rule attempts to dhclient on all
> interfaces simultaneously.
>
> This can be a problem in cases where two or more interfaces are on DHCP
> networks. The udev rule kicked off both interfaces simultaneously, so
> there is no way to guarantee which of the two will succeed to mount the
> rootfs. In my testing this means eth0 or eth1 unpredictably mounted the
> rootfs. The other interface meanwhile is configured to an IP address
> and has routes added. DNS and routes configured could be either
> interface as well.
>
> Locking so only one interface can ifup at a time wont exactly help here,
> because you still cannot predict which interface will go first.
>
> It seems we have no way to make it predictable (eth0 attempts before
> eth1) while doing ifup from a udev event?
My preferred solution would be to have the udev rule only grab
configuration information (either from dhcp or ip= lines), and actually
bring the interfaces up in the mount loop, where we can serialize them
according to whatever the local netboot configuration requires.
Parallelizing the config information grabbing is a clear win (dhcp can
take forever), but actually bringing up and taking down the interfaces
is very fast once we actually have the information. :)
> Warren Togami
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* Re: ifup async race problem
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@ 2009-06-11 6:24 ` Seewer Philippe
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From: Seewer Philippe @ 2009-06-11 6:24 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Victor Lowther; +Cc: Warren Togami, initramfs-u79uwXL29TY76Z2rM5mHXA
Victor Lowther wrote:
> On Wed, 2009-06-10 at 17:52 -0400, Warren Togami wrote:
>> modules.d/40network/60-net.rules
>>
>> ACTION=="add", SUBSYSTEM=="net", RUN+="/sbin/ifup $env{INTERFACE}"
>> ACTION=="online", SUBSYSTEM=="net", RUN+="/sbin/netroot $env{INTERFACE}"
>>
>> This works just fine if you have a single interface. But if you have
>> more than one interface bad things can happen. If you have two or more
>> interfaces and root=dhcp, the ifup udev rule attempts to dhclient on all
>> interfaces simultaneously.
>>
>> This can be a problem in cases where two or more interfaces are on DHCP
>> networks. The udev rule kicked off both interfaces simultaneously, so
>> there is no way to guarantee which of the two will succeed to mount the
>> rootfs. In my testing this means eth0 or eth1 unpredictably mounted the
>> rootfs. The other interface meanwhile is configured to an IP address
>> and has routes added. DNS and routes configured could be either
>> interface as well.
>>
>> Locking so only one interface can ifup at a time wont exactly help here,
>> because you still cannot predict which interface will go first.
>>
>> It seems we have no way to make it predictable (eth0 attempts before
>> eth1) while doing ifup from a udev event?
>
> My preferred solution would be to have the udev rule only grab
> configuration information (either from dhcp or ip= lines), and actually
> bring the interfaces up in the mount loop, where we can serialize them
> according to whatever the local netboot configuration requires.
>
> Parallelizing the config information grabbing is a clear win (dhcp can
> take forever), but actually bringing up and taking down the interfaces
> is very fast once we actually have the information. :)
Exactly. Patch solving this is in the pipeline, I just need access to
our lab to finish the tests. Hopefully that should be tomorrow.
Regards,
Philippe
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