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From: Gilles Chanteperdrix <gilles.chanteperdrix@xenomai.org>
To: ROSSIER Daniel <Daniel.Rossier@domain.hid>
Cc: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@domain.hid>,
	"embeddedxen-devel@domain.hid" <embeddedxen-devel@domain.hid>,
	GERBER Patrick <Patrick.Gerber@domain.hid>,
	"xenomai@xenomai.org" <xenomai@xenomai.org>
Subject: Re: [Xenomai-help] Running Xenomai in a virtual machine
Date: Mon, 22 Jun 2009 16:26:30 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A3F9496.7050209@domain.hid> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <D39BC4B7B612C6428144D37C54379A2F01A24CC9963E@EINTMBX.einet.ad.eivd.ch>

ROSSIER Daniel wrote:
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Jan Kiszka [mailto:jan.kiszka@domain.hid]
>> Sent: lundi, 22. juin 2009 15:55
>> To: ROSSIER Daniel
>> Cc: Johan Visser; xenomai@xenomai.org
>> Subject: Re: [Xenomai-help] Running Xenomai in a virtual machine
>>
>> ROSSIER Daniel wrote:
>>> Just going through this interesting thread, I though it might be of
>> interest - probably not fully related to the topic, but... - to know
>>> that we are currently working on some integration efforts of Xenomai
>> on top of the XEN hypervisor in the context of the
>>> embeddedXEN project. For the time being, it is purely devoted to ARM-
>> based processors.
>>> In case of interest, please visit:
>> https://sourceforge.net/projects/embeddedxen. Xenomai will appear as a
>> natural subtree of embeddedXEN, like xen or minios,
>>> but currently it is not present yet. The hypervisor and miniOS boots
>> up in Mainstone/QEMU and soon on a Colibri/PXA270 board. EmbeddedXEN is
>> mainly devoted to integrate multiple kernels into a single binary image
>> for embedded systems with the support of hard realtime (domainU-RT, a
>> new kind of Xen domain).
>>
>> Interesting, will have a look (again). Last time I checked was two
>> years
>> ago when MontaVista (IIRC) announced it. Does/will this version Xen not
>> suffer from the RT problems Xen upstream has, e.g. lacking
>> preemptibility?
> 
> Indeed, it is a major point we want to investigate; we will assess the overhead bound 
> to the upcall model of XEN. It is too early to make some predictions
> 
>> And what will be the impact on Xenomai? A new sub-arch per real arch?
>> Will Xenomai run stand-alone or together with a Linux kernel as on real
>> silicon? In the former case, what will be the programming model,
>> specifically regarding RT<->non-RT communication?
> 
> We are actually working out a standalone version of Xenomai (removing i-pipe) keeping 
> the strict minimum of Linux functionalities in order to bootstrap a simple Xenomai domain (memory manager, .
> I do not have yet a clear vision of how the RT/non-RT communication will look like, but probably
> it will rely on the event channel mechanisms of XEN. Maybe Patrick can tell us more about that...

Maybe a stupid question: but does the Xen domain/context switch routine
flush the cache?

-- 
                                          Gilles



  reply	other threads:[~2009-06-22 14:26 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 18+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-06-12  9:40 [Xenomai-help] Running Xenomai in a virtual machine Peter Soetens
2009-06-12  9:48 ` Sebastian Smolorz
2009-06-12 11:02   ` Jan Kiszka
2009-06-12 11:14     ` Peter Soetens
2009-06-12 12:42     ` Johan Visser
2009-06-12 13:00       ` Jan Kiszka
2009-06-12 13:10         ` Jan Kiszka
2009-06-12 14:33           ` Johan Visser
2009-06-22 13:15             ` ROSSIER Daniel
2009-06-22 13:55               ` Jan Kiszka
2009-06-22 14:05                 ` ROSSIER Daniel
2009-06-22 14:26                   ` Gilles Chanteperdrix [this message]
2009-06-22 15:05                     ` ROSSIER Daniel
2009-06-22 15:17                       ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2009-06-22 15:45                         ` ROSSIER Daniel
2009-06-12 13:16         ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2009-06-12 13:25           ` Jan Kiszka
2009-06-22 20:46             ` Johan Visser

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