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From: Ric Wheeler <rwheeler@redhat.com>
To: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
Cc: Dan Williams <dan.j.williams@intel.com>,
	David Woodhouse <dwmw2@infradead.org>,
	chris.mason@oracle.com, linux-btrfs@vger.kernel.org,
	neilb@suse.de, linux-raid@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH 1/4] md: Factor out RAID6 algorithms into lib/
Date: Fri, 17 Jul 2009 11:47:06 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A609CFA.2060707@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4A609B72.2010901@zytor.com>

On 07/17/2009 11:40 AM, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> Ric Wheeler wrote:
>>>
>>> I have seen the papers; I'm not sure it really makes that much
>>> difference. One of the things that bugs me about these papers is that he
>>> compares to *his* implementation of my optimizations, but not to my
>>> code. In real life implementations, on commodity hardware, we're limited
>>> by memory and disk performance, not by CPU utilization.
>>>
>>
>> Fair enough - I thought that his coverage of the other open source
>> friendly encodings beyond RAID6 was actually quite interesting.
>>
>> If you have specifics that you found unconvincing in his work, I am
>> pretty sure that he would be delighted to hear from you first hand.
>> James seemed to me to be very reasonable and very much a pro-Linux
>> academic, so I would love to be able to get him and his grad students
>> aligned in a useful way for us :-)
>>
>
> The main flaw, as I said, is in the phrase "as implemented by the
> Jerasure library". He's comparing his own implementations of various
> algorithms, not optimized implementations.
>
> The bottom line is pretty much this: the cost of changing the encoding
> would appear to outweigh the benefit. I'm not trying to claim the Linux
> RAID-6 implementation is optimal, but it is simple and appears to be
> fast enough that the math isn't the bottleneck.
>
> -hpa

Cost? Thank about how to get free grad student hours testing out things that you 
might or might not want to leverage on down the road :-)

ric


  reply	other threads:[~2009-07-17 15:47 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-07-13 14:11 [PATCH 1/4] md: Factor out RAID6 algorithms into lib/ David Woodhouse
2009-07-15 19:23 ` Dan Williams
2009-07-15 20:16   ` Chris Mason
2009-07-15 22:11     ` Dan Williams
2009-07-15 22:11       ` Dan Williams
2009-07-16 17:38   ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-07-17 14:22     ` Ric Wheeler
2009-07-17 15:20       ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-07-17 15:35         ` Ric Wheeler
2009-07-17 15:40           ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-07-17 15:47             ` Ric Wheeler [this message]
2009-07-17 15:49               ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-07-17 15:58                 ` Ric Wheeler
2009-07-17 18:59                   ` Alex Elsayed
2009-07-17 19:02                     ` Alex Elsayed
2009-07-29 18:16                       ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-07-17 19:12                 ` Gregory Maxwell
2009-07-17 19:12                   ` Gregory Maxwell
2009-07-18 11:53                 ` David Woodhouse
2009-07-18 11:53                   ` David Woodhouse
2009-07-18 12:45                   ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-07-18 12:45                     ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-07-18 18:50                     ` Alex Elsayed
2009-07-18 18:52                       ` Alex Elsayed
2009-07-29 18:20                         ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-07-18 12:49                   ` Ric Wheeler
2009-07-18 12:49                     ` Ric Wheeler
2009-07-18 16:26                   ` Dan Williams
2009-07-18 16:26                     ` Dan Williams
2009-07-18 18:42                     ` David Woodhouse
2009-07-18 20:04                       ` Dan Williams
2009-07-19 18:04                         ` David Woodhouse
2009-07-20  5:21                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2009-07-17 15:51               ` H. Peter Anvin

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