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From: Oren Laadan <orenl-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
To: Dave Hansen <dave-23VcF4HTsmIX0ybBhKVfKdBPR1lH4CV8@public.gmane.org>
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Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] flexible array implementation v3
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 11:44:28 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A68855C.1060702@cs.columbia.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090722175345.7154C2F2@kernel>



Dave Hansen wrote:
> 
> Changes from v2:
> - renamed some of the index functions
> - added preallocation function
> - added flex_array_free_parts() for use with
>   statically allocated bases
> - killed append() function
> 
> Changes from v1:
> - to vs too typo
> - added __check_part_and_nr() and gave it a warning
> - fixed off-by-one check on __nr_part_ptrs()
> - added FLEX_ARRAY_INIT() macro
> - some kerneldoc comments about the capacity
>   with various sized objects
> - comments to note lack of locking semantice
> 
> --
> 
> Once a structure goes over PAGE_SIZE*2, we see occasional
> allocation failures.  Some people have chosen to switch
> over to things like vmalloc() that will let them keep
> array-like access to such a large structures.  But,
> vmalloc() has plenty of downsides.
> 
> Here's an alternative.  I think it's what Andrew was
> suggesting  here:
> 
> 	http://lkml.org/lkml/2009/7/2/518 
> 
> I call it a flexible array.  It does all of its work in
> PAGE_SIZE bits, so never does an order>0 allocation.
> The base level has PAGE_SIZE-2*sizeof(int) bytes of
> storage for pointers to the second level.  So, with a
> 32-bit arch, you get about 4MB (4183112 bytes) of total
> storage when the objects pack nicely into a page.  It
> is half that on 64-bit because the pointers are twice
> the size.  There's a table detailing this in the code.
> 
> There are kerneldocs for the functions, but here's an
> overview:
> 
> flex_array_alloc() - dynamically allocate a base structure
> flex_array_free() - free the array and all of the
> 		    second-level pages
> flex_array_free_parts() - free the second-level pages, but
> 			  not the base (for static bases)
> flex_array_put() - copy into the array at the given index
> flex_array_get() - copy out of the array at the given index
> flex_array_prealloc() - preallocate the second-level pages
> 			between the given indexes to
> 			guarantee no allocs will occur at
> 			put() time.

Probably premature, but -- I wonder if it's worth adding interfaces to:

* copy a range of elements at once (perhaps to/from regular array ?
or userspace ? -- depending on potential users)

* (macro ?) iterate through elements (better have it ready for users
of flex_array before, than convert their code later on)

Oren.

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From: Oren Laadan <orenl@cs.columbia.edu>
To: Dave Hansen <dave@linux.vnet.ibm.com>
Cc: akpm@linux-foundation.org, vda.linux@googlemail.com,
	containers@lists.linux-foundation.org,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, menage@google.com
Subject: Re: [RFC][PATCH] flexible array implementation v3
Date: Thu, 23 Jul 2009 11:44:28 -0400	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4A68855C.1060702@cs.columbia.edu> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20090722175345.7154C2F2@kernel>



Dave Hansen wrote:
> 
> Changes from v2:
> - renamed some of the index functions
> - added preallocation function
> - added flex_array_free_parts() for use with
>   statically allocated bases
> - killed append() function
> 
> Changes from v1:
> - to vs too typo
> - added __check_part_and_nr() and gave it a warning
> - fixed off-by-one check on __nr_part_ptrs()
> - added FLEX_ARRAY_INIT() macro
> - some kerneldoc comments about the capacity
>   with various sized objects
> - comments to note lack of locking semantice
> 
> --
> 
> Once a structure goes over PAGE_SIZE*2, we see occasional
> allocation failures.  Some people have chosen to switch
> over to things like vmalloc() that will let them keep
> array-like access to such a large structures.  But,
> vmalloc() has plenty of downsides.
> 
> Here's an alternative.  I think it's what Andrew was
> suggesting  here:
> 
> 	http://lkml.org/lkml/2009/7/2/518 
> 
> I call it a flexible array.  It does all of its work in
> PAGE_SIZE bits, so never does an order>0 allocation.
> The base level has PAGE_SIZE-2*sizeof(int) bytes of
> storage for pointers to the second level.  So, with a
> 32-bit arch, you get about 4MB (4183112 bytes) of total
> storage when the objects pack nicely into a page.  It
> is half that on 64-bit because the pointers are twice
> the size.  There's a table detailing this in the code.
> 
> There are kerneldocs for the functions, but here's an
> overview:
> 
> flex_array_alloc() - dynamically allocate a base structure
> flex_array_free() - free the array and all of the
> 		    second-level pages
> flex_array_free_parts() - free the second-level pages, but
> 			  not the base (for static bases)
> flex_array_put() - copy into the array at the given index
> flex_array_get() - copy out of the array at the given index
> flex_array_prealloc() - preallocate the second-level pages
> 			between the given indexes to
> 			guarantee no allocs will occur at
> 			put() time.

Probably premature, but -- I wonder if it's worth adding interfaces to:

* copy a range of elements at once (perhaps to/from regular array ?
or userspace ? -- depending on potential users)

* (macro ?) iterate through elements (better have it ready for users
of flex_array before, than convert their code later on)

Oren.



  parent reply	other threads:[~2009-07-23 15:44 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 12+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-07-22 17:53 [RFC][PATCH] flexible array implementation v3 Dave Hansen
2009-07-23  1:44 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
     [not found]   ` <20090723104450.e0d421ca.kamezawa.hiroyu-+CUm20s59erQFUHtdCDX3A@public.gmane.org>
2009-07-23 14:05     ` Dave Hansen
2009-07-23 14:05       ` Dave Hansen
2009-07-23 14:48       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-07-23 14:48       ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-07-23  1:44 ` KAMEZAWA Hiroyuki
2009-07-23 15:44 ` Oren Laadan [this message]
2009-07-23 15:44   ` Oren Laadan
     [not found]   ` <4A68855C.1060702-eQaUEPhvms7ENvBUuze7eA@public.gmane.org>
2009-07-23 16:02     ` Dave Hansen
2009-07-23 16:02       ` Dave Hansen
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2009-07-22 17:53 Dave Hansen

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