From: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>
To: Carl-Daniel Hailfinger <c-d.hailfinger.devel.2006@gmx.net>
Cc: "qemu-devel@nongnu.org" <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>,
Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com>,
kvm-devel <kvm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Release plan for 0.12.0
Date: Wed, 30 Sep 2009 08:07:26 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4AC3580E.4010505@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4AC3257A.7060003@gmx.net>
Carl-Daniel Hailfinger wrote:
> Hi,
>
> On 30.09.2009 01:54, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>
>> Now that 0.11.0 is behind us, it's time to start thinking about 0.12.0.
>>
>> I'd also like to try to enumerate some features for this release.
>> Here's a short list of things I expect to see for this release
>> (target-i386 centric).
>>
>> o switch to SeaBIOS (need to finish porting features from Bochs)
>>
>
> That switch is much appreciated because it also reduces the testing
> matrix of those coreboot developers who boot test every commit with Qemu.
>
> However, to run coreboot on Qemu with the same init sequence as on
> simplified real hardware, we need Cache-as-RAM (CAR) support. This is
> basically a mode where sizeof(cacheable area) <= sizeof (L2 cache) and
> causes the processor to lock the cache and not pass any reads/writes
> through to the RAM behind the cached area. The easiest way to implement
> this would be to check the cache size criterion upon every MTRR
> manipulation and either map a chunk of fresh memory on top of the
> existing memory (which may be RAM, ROM or unmapped) for every cacheable
> area, and if the cacheable area starts to exceed the L2 cache size,
> discard all memory contents of the memory mapped on top.
> For additional correctness, the memory shoud not be discarded and
> written back to the lower layer of memory if WBINVD (instead of INVD) or
> CLFLUSH are called. That one is mostly sugar, though, and coreboot can
> do without.
>
Do we really need coreboot to use the same init sequence? coreboot is
firmware and we don't necessarily run real firmware under QEMU. It's a
short cut that lets us avoid a lot of complexity.
> Right now coreboot sets up the MTRRs correctly, but then (conditional on
> Qemu) only uses areas which are known to be backed by RAM instead of the
> areas designated by CAR.
>
> I'd like to implement CAR support which builds on top of my MTRR code
> which was merged some months ago (and I already have code to check for
> total cacheable area size), but I need help with the memory mapping
> stuff. How do I proceed? Clean up what I have and insert "FIXME"
> comments where I don't know how to implement stuff so others can see the
> code and comment on it?
>
You could start there. But from a higher level, I'm not sure I think a
partial implementation of something like CAR is all that valuable since
coreboot already runs under QEMU.
> Regards,
> Carl-Daniel
>
>
--
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-09-30 13:07 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 55+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-09-29 23:54 Release plan for 0.12.0 Anthony Liguori
2009-09-30 0:20 ` Dustin Kirkland
2009-09-30 2:18 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-30 2:28 ` [Qemu-devel] " Isaku Yamahata
2009-09-30 13:03 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-30 13:43 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-09-30 5:17 ` Amit Shah
2009-09-30 13:04 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-30 13:37 ` Amit Shah
2009-09-30 14:47 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-30 14:50 ` Amit Shah
2009-09-30 6:41 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2009-09-30 13:05 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-01 21:13 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-10-03 10:04 ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-05 12:43 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-10-05 13:52 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-30 13:31 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-09-30 8:53 ` Michael Tokarev
2009-09-30 9:01 ` Avi Kivity
2009-09-30 9:31 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2009-09-30 13:07 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2009-09-30 15:59 ` Carl-Daniel Hailfinger
2009-09-30 19:25 ` Blue Swirl
2009-09-30 13:30 ` Luiz Capitulino
2009-09-30 14:45 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-09-30 15:03 ` Fred Leeflang
2009-09-30 15:26 ` [Qemu-devel] " Luiz Capitulino
2009-09-30 17:03 ` Juan Quintela
2009-09-30 19:28 ` [Qemu-devel] " Gerd Hoffmann
2009-10-03 4:28 ` TAKEDA, toshiya
2009-10-08 13:55 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jens Osterkamp
2009-10-08 14:21 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-14 13:09 ` [Qemu-devel] " Arnd Bergmann
2009-10-14 13:53 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-14 14:01 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-14 14:04 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-14 13:21 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-14 14:17 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-14 14:24 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-14 15:19 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jamie Lokier
2009-10-14 15:50 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-14 21:10 ` [Qemu-devel] " Sridhar Samudrala
2009-10-14 22:53 ` Raw vs. tap (was: Re: Re: Release plan for 0.12.0) Anthony Liguori
2009-10-15 6:36 ` Raw vs. tap (was: Re: [Qemu-devel] " Mark McLoughlin
2009-10-15 7:56 ` Raw vs. tap (was: " Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-15 13:32 ` Raw vs. tap Anthony Liguori
2009-10-15 15:04 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-15 15:18 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-15 15:48 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-15 18:37 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-15 22:08 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-18 10:05 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-15 7:51 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: Release plan for 0.12.0 Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-10-20 6:33 ` Takahiro Hirofuchi
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