From: Anthony Liguori <aliguori@us.ibm.com>
To: Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
Cc: Glauber Costa <glommer@redhat.com>, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH v2 9/9] Add -kvm option
Date: Mon, 12 Oct 2009 11:31:34 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4AD359E6.50108@us.ibm.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4AD34C75.8090803@redhat.com>
Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
> On 10/12/09 16:04, Anthony Liguori wrote:
>> Gerd Hoffmann wrote:
>>> -M $machine gives you a barebone machine with all core devices which
>>> belong to it. You can't easily remove and/or replace devices.
>>> Especially not something central as the IRQ controller. But also no
>>> other core components, i.e. you wouldn't stick a piix4 ide controller
>>> into a Q35 machine. Just say 'no'.
>>
>> This seems fundamentally flawed to me. If you cannot remove a device
>> from a machine using command line options, then how do we support
>> something like -net none?
>
> '-net none' does not remove a nic. It makes qemu not add the default
> nic.
qemu should not have the concept of a default nic. Instead, if you
choose the pc machine type, by default you get an e1000. I think it's
also reasonable to get a USB controller too along with the balloon
driver and anything else we think a user could benefit from.
If you give devices well known ids, then changing a default device is
not really that big of a deal. It involves removing the device and
adding a new device with that same device id.
For platform devices, like the interrupt controller/pic, the same
principle could be applied to switch out a userspace irqchip/pit with
the kvm kernel implementations.
--
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-10-12 16:31 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 103+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-10-07 22:08 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2] Add in-kernel irqchip Glauber Costa
2009-10-07 22:08 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 1/9] add base-addr field to io apic state Glauber Costa
2009-10-07 22:08 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 2/9] Save missing fields in VMState Glauber Costa
2009-10-07 22:08 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 3/9] provide in-kernel ioapic Glauber Costa
2009-10-07 22:08 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 4/9] provide in-kernel apic Glauber Costa
2009-10-07 22:08 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 5/9] provide apic_set_irq_delivered Glauber Costa
2009-10-07 22:08 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 6/9] provide in-kernel i8259 chip Glauber Costa
2009-10-07 22:08 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 7/9] initialize " Glauber Costa
2009-10-07 22:08 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 8/9] Initialize in-kernel irqchip Glauber Costa
2009-10-07 22:08 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH v2 9/9] Add -kvm option Glauber Costa
2009-10-07 23:00 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-10-07 23:14 ` Glauber Costa
2009-10-07 23:28 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-12 11:58 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-10-12 14:04 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-12 15:34 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-10-12 16:31 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2009-10-13 8:05 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-10-13 15:33 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-13 19:26 ` Markus Armbruster
2009-10-13 20:43 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-14 8:08 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-10-13 15:36 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-13 22:57 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-10-08 14:07 ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-08 14:23 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-08 14:30 ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-08 14:33 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-08 14:41 ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-08 14:56 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-08 15:05 ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-08 15:14 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-12 11:15 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-10-08 14:34 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-10-08 12:02 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH v2 7/9] initialize i8259 chip Jan Kiszka
2009-10-08 13:55 ` [PATCH v2 4/9] provide in-kernel apic Anthony Liguori
2009-10-08 13:55 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-10-08 14:09 ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-08 14:09 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2009-10-08 14:22 ` Glauber Costa
2009-10-09 10:06 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-10-09 10:06 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jamie Lokier
2009-10-09 14:30 ` Glauber Costa
2009-10-09 14:30 ` [Qemu-devel] " Glauber Costa
2009-10-09 16:48 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-10-09 16:48 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-10-09 18:06 ` Glauber Costa
2009-10-09 18:06 ` [Qemu-devel] " Glauber Costa
2009-10-09 19:49 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-09 19:49 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-11 9:10 ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-11 9:10 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2009-10-12 13:41 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-12 13:41 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-08 14:26 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-08 14:26 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-08 14:31 ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-08 14:31 ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-08 14:39 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-08 14:46 ` Glauber Costa
2009-10-08 14:46 ` Glauber Costa
2009-10-08 14:44 ` Glauber Costa
2009-10-08 14:44 ` Glauber Costa
2009-10-08 11:46 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH v2 3/9] provide in-kernel ioapic Jan Kiszka
2009-10-08 13:49 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-08 13:49 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-10-08 13:54 ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-08 13:54 ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2009-10-08 15:53 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-10-08 15:53 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2009-10-08 16:07 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-10-08 16:07 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-10-08 16:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-08 16:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-08 16:17 ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-08 16:17 ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-08 16:22 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-10-08 16:22 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-10-08 16:29 ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-08 16:29 ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-08 16:34 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-10-08 16:34 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-10-08 16:42 ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-08 16:42 ` Avi Kivity
2009-10-08 17:11 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-10-08 17:11 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-10-09 10:02 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-10-09 10:02 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jamie Lokier
2009-10-09 12:02 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-10-09 12:02 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-10-09 14:32 ` Glauber Costa
2009-10-09 14:32 ` [Qemu-devel] " Glauber Costa
2009-10-09 16:49 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-10-09 16:49 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-10-09 19:55 ` Juan Quintela
2009-10-09 21:34 ` Glauber Costa
2009-10-09 21:34 ` [Qemu-devel] " Glauber Costa
2009-10-12 13:20 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-12 13:20 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-10-12 14:18 ` Jamie Lokier
2009-10-12 14:18 ` [Qemu-devel] " Jamie Lokier
2009-10-12 14:49 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-10-12 14:49 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
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