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From: Eric Sandeen <sandeen@redhat.com>
To: Greg Freemyer <greg.freemyer@gmail.com>
Cc: Ted Augustine <taugustine@techpathways.com>,
	Alexey Fisher <bug-track@fisher-privat.net>,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: xt4 - True Readonly mount [WAS - Re: [Bug 14354] Bad corruption with 	2.6.32-rc1 and upwards]
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 10:14:56 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4AEB02F0.5040309@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <87f94c370910300720s5ea3d780o45fcf32303820a3c@mail.gmail.com>

Greg Freemyer wrote:
> On Fri, Oct 30, 2009 at 4:22 AM,  <bugzilla-daemon@bugzilla.kernel.org> wrote:
>> http://bugzilla.kernel.org/show_bug.cgi?id=14354
>>
>> --- Comment #152 from Alexey Fisher <bug-track@fisher-privat.net>  2009-10-30 08:22:10 ---
>> Ted,
>> Thank you for explanation :)
>> Notice: i learning computer forensic, and was trained to mount all evidence
>> systems with "-o ro" to not contaminate it. It seems like ext4 break this
>> tradition, so many forensics will surprised  why md5sum do not match.
> 
> Ted,  (Alexey there is a response to further down).
> 
> I have not followed this thread ultra-closely but Alexey's comment got
> my attention.
> 
> Ignoring computer forensics, with LVM snapshots, hardware raid array
> snapshots, etc. even in the presence of a dirty log, we need to be
> able to mount a drive in true read-only fashion fro many backup
> operations to function correctly.
> 
> XFS added an extra mount flag for that 5 or so years ago.
> I hope ext4 either has or will add a true read-only mount option.
> Maybe Eric Sandeen remembers the actual drivers for adding that
> feature to XFS.
> 

After a little brief digging I'm not sure when the xfs mount option went 
in or why...

But for both

xfs: mount -o ro,norecovery

and

ext[34]: mount -o ro,noload

I don't think either one should touch the disk.

Also, both should skip journal replay if you set the block device 
readonly prior to mount (hdparm -r can do this).

-Eric

  reply	other threads:[~2009-10-30 15:15 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-10-30 14:20 xt4 - True Readonly mount [WAS - Re: [Bug 14354] Bad corruption with 2.6.32-rc1 and upwards] Greg Freemyer
2009-10-30 15:14 ` Eric Sandeen [this message]
2009-10-30 15:31   ` Alexey Fisher
2009-10-30 16:14     ` Eric Sandeen
2009-10-30 16:52       ` Alexey Fisher
2009-10-30 17:13         ` Eric Sandeen
2009-10-30 17:43           ` Duane Griffin
2009-10-30 15:47 ` Alexey Fisher
2009-11-01  5:45 ` Theodore Tso
2009-11-02 21:59   ` Greg Freemyer
2009-11-02 22:53     ` Andreas Dilger
2009-11-02 23:02       ` Eric Sandeen
2009-11-04  8:05         ` Andreas Dilger
2009-11-04 16:20           ` Eric Sandeen
2009-11-03 13:52     ` Theodore Tso

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