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From: Eric Sandeen <sandeen@redhat.com>
To: Alexey Fisher <bug-track@fisher-privat.net>
Cc: Greg Freemyer <greg.freemyer@gmail.com>,
	Ted Augustine <taugustine@techpathways.com>,
	linux-ext4@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: xt4 - True Readonly mount [WAS - Re: [Bug 14354] Bad corruption with 	2.6.32-rc1 and upwards]
Date: Fri, 30 Oct 2009 11:14:23 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4AEB10DF.6090106@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1256916681.3145.8.camel@mini>

Alexey Fisher wrote:
> Am Freitag, den 30.10.2009, 10:14 -0500 schrieb Eric Sandeen:

...

>> After a little brief digging I'm not sure when the xfs mount option went 
>> in or why...
>>
>> But for both
>>
>> xfs: mount -o ro,norecovery
>>
>> and
>>
>> ext[34]: mount -o ro,noload
>>
>> I don't think either one should touch the disk.
>>
>> Also, both should skip journal replay if you set the block device 
>> readonly prior to mount (hdparm -r can do this).
> 
> Interesting tip, thank you.
> But there is some problems:
> 1. "hdparm -r" will set complete drive to ro mode. This is bad if i
> use /dev/sda1 for root and /dev/sda5 need to be forced readonly.

So point it at the partition not the drive:

[root@neon ~]# hdparm -r 1 /dev/sda1

/dev/sda1:
  setting readonly to 1 (on)
  readonly      =  1 (on)
[root@neon ~]# hdparm -r /dev/sda2

/dev/sda2:
  readonly      =  0 (off)

It doesn't change the hardware, it sets a flag on the kernel's block 
device structure.

> 2. the fact xfs and ext[3,4] use different options for true_ro make
> things complicated.

the hazards of being an open source sysadmin I guess.

> 3. the definition of ro is broken.

depends on what you mean by ro.  A user can only read from the 
filesystem so it is accurate in that respect.  Is "ro" for the fs or the 
bdev?  Semantic differences but not necessarily broken.

> 4. many frustrated admins who mounted part of raid1 only with "-o ro"

Dunno what you mean by that ...

-Eric

> Regards,
> Alexey

  reply	other threads:[~2009-10-30 16:14 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 15+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-10-30 14:20 xt4 - True Readonly mount [WAS - Re: [Bug 14354] Bad corruption with 2.6.32-rc1 and upwards] Greg Freemyer
2009-10-30 15:14 ` Eric Sandeen
2009-10-30 15:31   ` Alexey Fisher
2009-10-30 16:14     ` Eric Sandeen [this message]
2009-10-30 16:52       ` Alexey Fisher
2009-10-30 17:13         ` Eric Sandeen
2009-10-30 17:43           ` Duane Griffin
2009-10-30 15:47 ` Alexey Fisher
2009-11-01  5:45 ` Theodore Tso
2009-11-02 21:59   ` Greg Freemyer
2009-11-02 22:53     ` Andreas Dilger
2009-11-02 23:02       ` Eric Sandeen
2009-11-04  8:05         ` Andreas Dilger
2009-11-04 16:20           ` Eric Sandeen
2009-11-03 13:52     ` Theodore Tso

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