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From: Tim Blechmann <tim@klingt.org>
To: Nicholas Mc Guire <der.herr@hofr.at>
Cc: y@opentech.at, Mark Knecht <markknecht@gmail.com>,
	linux-rt-users@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: rt file i/o
Date: Wed, 04 Nov 2009 18:32:41 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4AF1BAB9.5080104@klingt.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091104171412.GB1702@opentech.at>

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>> well, if i understand the rt howto correctly, _no_ disc access is
>> allowed, neither from rt nor from non-rt threads, since it may produce
>> page faults, which introduce latencies ...
> 
> I would be supprised if the rt howto states that page-faults in non-rt
> threads is a critical problem - that would not significantly impact RT
> performance - atelast not the worst case - it will (as every other system
> load) impact the average case. so having a non-rt thread reading disk-files
> to a buffer and a rt-thread processing this buffer should be perfectly fine.

that is what i thought for years ... but according to [1] a page fault
in an rt process freezes the entire process with both rt and non-rt
threads until the page fault is handled ...

tim

[1]
http://rt.wiki.kernel.org/index.php/HOWTO:_Build_an_RT-application#Latencies_caused_by_Page-faults

-- 
tim@klingt.org
http://tim.klingt.org

Your mind will answer most questions if you learn to relax and wait
for the answer.
  William S. Burroughs


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  reply	other threads:[~2009-11-04 17:32 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 13+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-11-04 15:25 rt file i/o Tim Blechmann
2009-11-04 15:43 ` Mark Knecht
2009-11-04 15:52   ` Tim Blechmann
2009-11-04 17:14     ` Nicholas Mc Guire
2009-11-04 17:32       ` Tim Blechmann [this message]
2009-11-04 22:41         ` Nicholas Mc Guire
2009-11-04 22:44         ` Clark Williams
2009-11-05  4:30           ` Shane M Smith
2009-11-05  9:29           ` Tim Blechmann
2009-11-05 20:30             ` Remy Bohmer
2009-11-05  9:22       ` Sven-Thorsten Dietrich
2009-11-05  4:14     ` Mark Knecht
2009-11-04 17:09 ` Nicholas Mc Guire

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