* where is the canonical OE web site these days?
@ 2009-11-05 5:15 Robert P. J. Day
2009-11-05 5:34 ` Denys Dmytriyenko
0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread
From: Robert P. J. Day @ 2009-11-05 5:15 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: OpenEmbedded Development mailing list
if one goes to openembedded.org these days, one gets to
linuxtogo.org. but there's also the site openembedded.net, which
takes you to a fairly useful wiki (even if some of the info seems a
bit out of date). and the linuxtogo wiki definitely doesn't take one
over to the openembedded.net wiki.
so where's the official portal these days?
rday
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^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread* Re: where is the canonical OE web site these days? 2009-11-05 5:15 where is the canonical OE web site these days? Robert P. J. Day @ 2009-11-05 5:34 ` Denys Dmytriyenko 2009-11-05 5:48 ` Denys Dmytriyenko 0 siblings, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Denys Dmytriyenko @ 2009-11-05 5:34 UTC (permalink / raw) To: openembedded-devel On Thu, Nov 05, 2009 at 12:15:09AM -0500, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > if one goes to openembedded.org these days, one gets to > linuxtogo.org. but there's also the site openembedded.net, which > takes you to a fairly useful wiki (even if some of the info seems a > bit out of date). and the linuxtogo wiki definitely doesn't take one > over to the openembedded.net wiki. > > so where's the official portal these days? Try http://www.openembedded.org or http://wiki.openembedded.org. I believe there is a misconfiguration (in DNS?) where openembedded.org points to the IP address of linuxtogo.org, hence opening http://openembedded.org opens http://linuxtogo.org Not sure if there was a reason for that, as linuxtogo.org handles the mailing list, but that would require an MX record, not IN... openembedded.net is an older and different zone, which has no such issue. AFAIK, there is a move to deprecate openembedded.net in favor of openembedded.org... Current infrastructure is documented here: http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/Infrastructure -- Denys ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: where is the canonical OE web site these days? 2009-11-05 5:34 ` Denys Dmytriyenko @ 2009-11-05 5:48 ` Denys Dmytriyenko 2009-11-05 6:45 ` Philip Balister 2009-11-05 7:01 ` Robert P. J. Day 0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Denys Dmytriyenko @ 2009-11-05 5:48 UTC (permalink / raw) To: openembedded-devel On Thu, Nov 05, 2009 at 12:34:59AM -0500, Denys Dmytriyenko wrote: > On Thu, Nov 05, 2009 at 12:15:09AM -0500, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > > > if one goes to openembedded.org these days, one gets to > > linuxtogo.org. but there's also the site openembedded.net, which > > takes you to a fairly useful wiki (even if some of the info seems a > > bit out of date). and the linuxtogo wiki definitely doesn't take one > > over to the openembedded.net wiki. > > > > so where's the official portal these days? > > Try http://www.openembedded.org or http://wiki.openembedded.org. I believe > there is a misconfiguration (in DNS?) where openembedded.org points to the IP > address of linuxtogo.org, hence opening http://openembedded.org opens > http://linuxtogo.org > Not sure if there was a reason for that, as linuxtogo.org handles the mailing > list, but that would require an MX record, not IN... Sorry, meant to say "would require MX record, not A"... Hmm, interesting. According to my dig, there is no MX record for openembedded.org. Then lists.openembedded.org is a CNAME to openembedded.org - no wonder it requires to point A record to linuxtogo.org for the mailing list to work properly... I'm not sure why it's being done this way - let's ask admins :) > openembedded.net is an older and different zone, which has no such issue. > AFAIK, there is a move to deprecate openembedded.net in favor of > openembedded.org... > > Current infrastructure is documented here: > http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/Infrastructure -- Denys ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: where is the canonical OE web site these days? 2009-11-05 5:48 ` Denys Dmytriyenko @ 2009-11-05 6:45 ` Philip Balister 2009-11-05 7:01 ` Robert P. J. Day 1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Philip Balister @ 2009-11-05 6:45 UTC (permalink / raw) To: openembedded-devel On 11/05/2009 05:48 AM, Denys Dmytriyenko wrote: > On Thu, Nov 05, 2009 at 12:34:59AM -0500, Denys Dmytriyenko wrote: >> On Thu, Nov 05, 2009 at 12:15:09AM -0500, Robert P. J. Day wrote: >>> >>> if one goes to openembedded.org these days, one gets to >>> linuxtogo.org. but there's also the site openembedded.net, which >>> takes you to a fairly useful wiki (even if some of the info seems a >>> bit out of date). and the linuxtogo wiki definitely doesn't take one >>> over to the openembedded.net wiki. >>> >>> so where's the official portal these days? >> >> Try http://www.openembedded.org or http://wiki.openembedded.org. I believe >> there is a misconfiguration (in DNS?) where openembedded.org points to the IP >> address of linuxtogo.org, hence opening http://openembedded.org opens >> http://linuxtogo.org >> Not sure if there was a reason for that, as linuxtogo.org handles the mailing >> list, but that would require an MX record, not IN... > > Sorry, meant to say "would require MX record, not A"... > > Hmm, interesting. According to my dig, there is no MX record for > openembedded.org. Then lists.openembedded.org is a CNAME to openembedded.org - > no wonder it requires to point A record to linuxtogo.org for the mailing list > to work properly... I'm not sure why it's being done this way - let's ask > admins :) Yeah, I tried setting up a MX record once, but for some reason it did not work. We'll talk a little about this at OEDEM and I will see if I can work out a way to resolve this problem. Philip > >> openembedded.net is an older and different zone, which has no such issue. >> AFAIK, there is a move to deprecate openembedded.net in favor of >> openembedded.org... >> >> Current infrastructure is documented here: >> http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/Infrastructure > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: where is the canonical OE web site these days? 2009-11-05 5:48 ` Denys Dmytriyenko 2009-11-05 6:45 ` Philip Balister @ 2009-11-05 7:01 ` Robert P. J. Day 2009-11-05 8:27 ` Graeme Gregory 1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Robert P. J. Day @ 2009-11-05 7:01 UTC (permalink / raw) To: openembedded-devel On Thu, 5 Nov 2009, Denys Dmytriyenko wrote: > On Thu, Nov 05, 2009 at 12:34:59AM -0500, Denys Dmytriyenko wrote: > > On Thu, Nov 05, 2009 at 12:15:09AM -0500, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > > > > > if one goes to openembedded.org these days, one gets to > > > linuxtogo.org. but there's also the site openembedded.net, which > > > takes you to a fairly useful wiki (even if some of the info seems a > > > bit out of date). and the linuxtogo wiki definitely doesn't take one > > > over to the openembedded.net wiki. > > > > > > so where's the official portal these days? > > > > Try http://www.openembedded.org or http://wiki.openembedded.org. I > > believe there is a misconfiguration (in DNS?) where > > openembedded.org points to the IP address of linuxtogo.org, hence > > opening http://openembedded.org opens http://linuxtogo.org Not > > sure if there was a reason for that, as linuxtogo.org handles the > > mailing list, but that would require an MX record, not IN... > > Sorry, meant to say "would require MX record, not A"... > > Hmm, interesting. According to my dig, there is no MX record for > openembedded.org. Then lists.openembedded.org is a CNAME to > openembedded.org - no wonder it requires to point A record to > linuxtogo.org for the mailing list to work properly... I'm not sure > why it's being done this way - let's ask admins :) i only brought this up since i was getting a bit confused as to what were valid URLs and websites for OE. as i mentioned earlier, some of the top-level links at http://openembedded.org/ (eg., "OpenEmbedded", "OpenZaurus" and "G(PE)^2") all appear borked. at the very least, my ISP claims that they don't resolve. and i ran across wiki.openembedded.net strictly by accident, but it's obvious that it's still active, as there are recent news articles from just last month. however, it's just as obvious that some of that info is out of date. here: http://wiki.openembedded.net/index.php/OEandYourDistro some of the distros listed there really are long gone (fedora 2/3/4), and documenting them probably has little value. and as for fedora 11, some of the listed "necessary" packages really aren't. in particular, it appears that the "python-psyco" package doesn't even *exist* anymore in f11. just an observation. but glitches aside, a lot of that info is useful and should be more obviously available. rday -- ======================================================================== Robert P. J. Day Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA Linux Consulting, Training and Kernel Pedantry. Web page: http://crashcourse.ca Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday ======================================================================== ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: where is the canonical OE web site these days? 2009-11-05 7:01 ` Robert P. J. Day @ 2009-11-05 8:27 ` Graeme Gregory 2009-11-05 8:39 ` Robert P. J. Day 2009-11-05 9:14 ` Philip Balister 0 siblings, 2 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Graeme Gregory @ 2009-11-05 8:27 UTC (permalink / raw) To: openembedded-devel On Thu, Nov 05, 2009 at 02:01:02AM -0500, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > but glitches aside, a lot of that info is useful and should be more > obviously available. > Obvious as in the advertised addresses of www.openembedded.org and www.openembedded.net? Im really confused at what you want. Graeme ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: where is the canonical OE web site these days? 2009-11-05 8:27 ` Graeme Gregory @ 2009-11-05 8:39 ` Robert P. J. Day 2009-11-05 9:21 ` Graeme Gregory 2009-11-05 9:14 ` Philip Balister 1 sibling, 1 reply; 9+ messages in thread From: Robert P. J. Day @ 2009-11-05 8:39 UTC (permalink / raw) To: openembedded-devel On Thu, 5 Nov 2009, Graeme Gregory wrote: > On Thu, Nov 05, 2009 at 02:01:02AM -0500, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > but glitches aside, a lot of that info is useful and should be more > > obviously available. > > > Obvious as in the advertised addresses of www.openembedded.org and > www.openembedded.net? Im really confused at what you want. no, *not* obvious at all since, if one browses over to the (intuitively obvious URL of) openembedded.org, one ends up at what appears to be linux-to-go.org. once there, the link of "wiki documentation" takes one to *someone's* idea of a wiki, while the top level link to "OpenEmbedded" is currently broken, but if it worked, it would take one to http://oe.linuxtogo.org/ (whatever that is supposed to be). there is no obvious hint that i can see that would direct readers to openembedded.net, which takes one directly to *that* wiki. this might all just be a result of misconfigured DNS, but having two top-level openembedded domain names (openembedded.org and openembedded.net) really will cause some confusion. oh, wait, i just noticed that a simple "openembedded.org" will take you to linuxtogo, while the more formal "www.openembedded.org" takes you to the openembedded.net wiki. i definitely think this needs some reorg. rday -- ======================================================================== Robert P. J. Day Waterloo, Ontario, CANADA Linux Consulting, Training and Kernel Pedantry. Web page: http://crashcourse.ca Twitter: http://twitter.com/rpjday ======================================================================== ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: where is the canonical OE web site these days? 2009-11-05 8:39 ` Robert P. J. Day @ 2009-11-05 9:21 ` Graeme Gregory 0 siblings, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Graeme Gregory @ 2009-11-05 9:21 UTC (permalink / raw) To: openembedded-devel On Thu, Nov 05, 2009 at 03:39:26AM -0500, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > On Thu, 5 Nov 2009, Graeme Gregory wrote: > > > On Thu, Nov 05, 2009 at 02:01:02AM -0500, Robert P. J. Day wrote: > > > but glitches aside, a lot of that info is useful and should be more > > > obviously available. > > > > > Obvious as in the advertised addresses of www.openembedded.org and > > www.openembedded.net? Im really confused at what you want. > > no, *not* obvious at all since, if one browses over to the > (intuitively obvious URL of) openembedded.org, one ends up at > what appears to be linux-to-go.org. once there, the link of "wiki > documentation" takes one to *someone's* idea of a wiki, while the top > level link to "OpenEmbedded" is currently broken, but if it worked, it > would take one to http://oe.linuxtogo.org/ (whatever that is supposed > to be). > > there is no obvious hint that i can see that would direct readers > to openembedded.net, which takes one directly to *that* wiki. > > this might all just be a result of misconfigured DNS, but having two > top-level openembedded domain names (openembedded.org and > openembedded.net) really will cause some confusion. > > oh, wait, i just noticed that a simple "openembedded.org" will take > you to linuxtogo, while the more formal "www.openembedded.org" takes > you to the openembedded.net wiki. i definitely think this needs some > reorg. > Your making a whole lot of traffic about one simple DNS misconfiguration. www.openembedded.(net|org) is the canonical address. They lead to the most "correct" information we have. Philip has already said he will look at the DNS problem at OEDEM. Graeme ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
* Re: where is the canonical OE web site these days? 2009-11-05 8:27 ` Graeme Gregory 2009-11-05 8:39 ` Robert P. J. Day @ 2009-11-05 9:14 ` Philip Balister 1 sibling, 0 replies; 9+ messages in thread From: Philip Balister @ 2009-11-05 9:14 UTC (permalink / raw) To: openembedded-devel On 11/05/2009 08:27 AM, Graeme Gregory wrote: > On Thu, Nov 05, 2009 at 02:01:02AM -0500, Robert P. J. Day wrote: >> but glitches aside, a lot of that info is useful and should be more >> obviously available. >> > Obvious as in the advertised addresses of www.openembedded.org and > www.openembedded.net? Im really confused at what you want. openembedded.org used to re-direct to www.openembedded.org. Rather than fix this, I'd like to get the mail sorted out so it works with a MX record, then we can easily point openembedded.org at www.openembedded.org, without depending on ltg to do the re-direct. Philip > > Graeme > > > _______________________________________________ > Openembedded-devel mailing list > Openembedded-devel@lists.openembedded.org > http://lists.linuxtogo.org/cgi-bin/mailman/listinfo/openembedded-devel > ^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 9+ messages in thread
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