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From: "Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko" <phcoder@gmail.com>
To: The development of GNU GRUB <grub-devel@gnu.org>
Subject: Re: fonts for gfxmenu, help needed
Date: Wed, 25 Nov 2009 18:42:17 +0100	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B0D6C79.50506@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <a5d587fb0911250804u7e45508y3c0d2725302489a3@mail.gmail.com>

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Michal Suchanek wrote:
> 2009/11/25 feng shu <tumashu@gmail.com>:
>   
>> 2009/11/25 Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko <phcoder@gmail.com>:
>>     
>>> Michal Suchanek wrote:
>>>       
>
>   
>>>> Also if worse comes to worst Indic, Arabic or Hebrew can be feasibly
>>>> written in Latin, Chinese cannot.
>>>>
>>>>         
>>> pinyin. I know it's disagreable to read for native speakers, but it's
>>> similar for Arabic.
>>>       
>> show grub menu with pinyin?  it is very very stupid.
>>
>>     
I was mainly trying to say that menu with Russian or Arabic
transliteration wouldn't make much sense either.
>
> I guess most people in Europe simply don't understand that pinyin is
> unreadable.
>   
You're right I don't understand it. So please enlighten me. According to
wikipedia pinyin is used for teaching Chinese language in school, and
pinyin is a major input method used. Pinyin when used with all
diacritics represents the words as they would be spoken aloud and yet
you say that it's completely unreadable even by Mandarin speakers. I
understand that a speaker of Cantonese or wǔ wouldn't be able to
understand it because pronunciation is different but why is it the case
for Mandarin speaker too?
Another question: do you think vertical (top-to-bottom instead of
left-to-right) menu themes would be useful for Chinese and Japanese
computers?
> Fortunately, displaying Chinese characters should be well within the
> capabilities of current gfxterm although the font is likely poor
> quality.
>
>   
Better fonts can be included but I would prefer not loading them by
default instead if user needs it. Perhaps our grub.cfg generation system
could scan configfiles and add fonts appropriately?
> Any testers who can tell the difference between commonly used Chinese
> fonts and GNU Unifont are welcome.
>
> Thanks
>
> Michal
>
>
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>   


-- 
Regards
Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko



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  reply	other threads:[~2009-11-25 17:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 43+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2009-11-24 12:10 fonts for gfxmenu, help needed Robert Millan
2009-11-24 15:27 ` Michal Suchanek
2009-11-24 17:35   ` Robert Millan
2009-11-24 19:06     ` Colin D Bennett
2009-11-24 19:43       ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-11-24 23:20         ` Robert Millan
2009-11-25  9:01           ` Michal Suchanek
2009-11-25 10:32             ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-11-25 11:12               ` Michal Suchanek
2009-11-25 11:36                 ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-11-25 12:29                   ` Michal Suchanek
2009-11-25 13:17                     ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-11-25 13:57                   ` feng shu
2009-11-25 16:04                     ` Michal Suchanek
2009-11-25 17:42                       ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko [this message]
2009-11-25 21:51                         ` Michal Suchanek
2009-11-26  2:58                         ` feng shu
2009-11-26  3:11                       ` feng shu
2009-11-25 11:15           ` Michal Suchanek
2009-11-25 11:38             ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-11-24 18:12   ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-11-24 18:29     ` Felix Zielcke
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2009-11-26  4:38 Qianqian Fang
2009-11-26  9:11 ` Felix Zielcke
2009-11-26 15:27   ` Qianqian Fang
2009-11-26 22:14     ` Michal Suchanek
2009-11-27  0:48       ` Qianqian Fang
2009-11-27  0:51         ` Qianqian Fang
2009-11-27  9:42         ` Michal Suchanek
2009-11-28  1:46           ` Qianqian Fang
2009-11-28 21:53             ` Michal Suchanek
2009-11-28 22:33               ` Qianqian Fang
2009-11-28 22:43               ` Qianqian Fang
2009-11-29 11:19                 ` Michal Suchanek
2009-11-29 16:14                   ` Qianqian Fang
2009-11-29 16:23                     ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-11-29 17:10                       ` Qianqian Fang
2009-11-29 19:36                         ` Vladimir 'φ-coder/phcoder' Serbinenko
2009-11-30  2:15                           ` Qianqian Fang
2009-11-30  9:44                     ` Michal Suchanek
2009-11-30 15:24                       ` Qianqian Fang
2009-11-30 16:10                         ` Michal Suchanek
2009-12-05 21:50                           ` Michal Suchanek

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