From: Gilles Chanteperdrix <gilles.chanteperdrix@xenomai.org>
To: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@domain.hid>
Cc: Wolfgang Mauerer <wm@domain.hid>,
"xenomai@xenomai.org" <xenomai@xenomai.org>
Subject: Re: [Xenomai-core] Realtime gettimeofday()
Date: Wed, 02 Dec 2009 16:03:54 +0100 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B1681DA.3090108@domain.hid> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4B167FC4.8080904@domain.hid>
Jan Kiszka wrote:
> Gilles Chanteperdrix wrote:
>> Jan Kiszka wrote:
>>> Why? It delivers us the core mechanism we need for the rest as well -
>>> and it does not require fancy I-pipe hooks.
>> Because relying on the vdso/vsyscall only works on x86. Whereas
>> implementing clock slew down/acceleration at nucleus level and simply
>> sharing data between kernel and user through the the global sem heap,
>> works for all architectures.
>
> There are three kind of archs:
> - those that already support vgettimeofday & friends (x86, powerpc,
> maybe more)
> - those that do not yet though they could (I strongly suspect arm falls
> into this category as well)
> - those that never will (due to lacking user-readable time sources)
>
> We need temporary/permanent i-pipe workarounds for the last two, but I
> see no point in complicating the first category. This design aims at a
> longer term.
Well, I may be wrong, but I prefer generic code to arch-specific code.
Nucleus code to handle clock slow down/acceleration would be generic;
I-pipe code to signal NTP syscalls would be generic (and yes, even if
I-pipe patches are generated for all architectures, whether the code is
generic or specific makes a big difference);
User-space code to implement clock_gettime(CLOCK_REALTIME) using data
shared through the global sem heap would be generic.
So, I think this design is future proof and easy to maintain. And I do
not see how it complicates x86 situation, since it is only made of
generic code.
Looks like we found a troll to occupy this afternoon :-).
--
Gilles
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-12-02 15:03 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 32+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-12-02 12:55 [Xenomai-core] Realtime gettimeofday() Wolfgang Mauerer
2009-12-02 13:23 ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2009-12-02 13:43 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-12-02 14:15 ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2009-12-02 14:31 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-12-02 14:35 ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2009-12-02 14:55 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-12-02 15:03 ` Gilles Chanteperdrix [this message]
2009-12-02 15:16 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-12-02 16:08 ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2009-12-02 16:23 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-12-02 16:59 ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2009-12-02 20:54 ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2009-12-02 22:03 ` Wolfgang Mauerer
2009-12-02 22:20 ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2009-12-02 22:33 ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2009-12-03 9:36 ` Wolfgang Mauerer
2009-12-03 10:50 ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2009-12-03 13:11 ` Wolfgang Mauerer
2009-12-03 13:14 ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2009-12-03 13:32 ` Wolfgang Mauerer
2009-12-03 13:38 ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2009-12-03 20:31 ` Wolfgang Mauerer
2009-12-03 21:42 ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2009-12-05 16:11 ` Philippe Gerum
2009-12-07 9:14 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-12-07 13:43 ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
2009-12-07 13:50 ` Jan Kiszka
2009-12-07 14:07 ` Philippe Gerum
2009-12-07 14:21 ` Wolfgang Mauerer
2009-12-15 15:00 ` Richard Cochran
2009-12-15 15:07 ` Gilles Chanteperdrix
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