From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Sebastian Herbszt <herbszt@gmx.de>
Cc: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>,
glommer@redhat.com, qemu-devel@nongnu.org,
Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>,
Kevin O'Connor <kevin@koconnor.net>,
Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: qdev property bug?
Date: Mon, 14 Dec 2009 13:33:50 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B26931E.4000101@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <7FB8DD1225E54176BCAF5523B6AEA89B@FSCPC>
Sebastian Herbszt wrote:
> Anthony Liguori wrote:
>> Michael S. Tsirkin wrote:
>>>
>>> Further, we should error out when device is added.
>>> Doing this during boot is way too late, management
>>> won't be able to understand such errors and
>>> won't be able to recover.
>>>
>>
>> I don't quite understand this.
>>
>> In 0.11, we never loaded option roms unless a user specified -boot
>> n. If a user specified -boot n and used more than one nic type, I'm
>> fairly certain it would error out during start up because it would
>> run out of option rom space. Maybe it required three types of nics,
>> but the point still remains.
>
> I think it used to be possible to have two different nic types and
> only load
> one rom, e.g. -net nic,model=pcnet -net nic,model=e1000 -option-rom
> e1000.rom
> Then use the boot menu to select the e1000 nic.
That's a super hack :-) The fact that works is pure luck.
>> In 0.12, we always load the option rom for a PCI device. An easy
>> solution here would be to just gracefully handle the case where we
>> ran out of option rom space and (silently) stop loading additional
>> roms. With respect to -boot n, it makes the behavior buggy (you
>> cannot boot from the second nic) but my original point is that that
>> is not a regression from 0.11.
>
> Even if i repeat myself [1] i suggest putting an option-rom loading
> flag to the -net option:
> -net nic,model=e1000,rom=[on,off,e1000.bin]
Well it ought to be a qdev property and it ought to be applicable to
every PCI device.
>> For 0.13, we should probably allow a user to suppress option rom
>> loading for a given PCI device. The limited space is a pretty good
>> justification for that.
>
> The default behaviour should be not loading option-roms; users should
> request those.
I disagree. A user should not have to decide whether they want PXE boot
or not when they create a VM. The less decisions a user has to make up
front the easier qemu is to use.
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
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2009-12-14 10:59 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: qdev property bug? Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-14 11:55 ` Alexander Graf
2009-12-14 13:24 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-14 13:35 ` Alexander Graf
2009-12-14 14:01 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-14 17:00 ` Glauber Costa
2009-12-14 14:11 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-14 14:11 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-14 14:13 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-14 14:25 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-14 16:20 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-14 19:12 ` Sebastian Herbszt
2009-12-14 19:20 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-14 19:38 ` Sebastian Herbszt
2009-12-14 19:33 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2009-12-14 19:42 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-14 19:59 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-14 20:20 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-14 20:32 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-12-14 20:34 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-14 20:36 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-14 20:44 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-14 20:51 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-15 2:37 ` Proper support for PCI-based option rom loading (was Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: qdev property bug?) Anthony Liguori
2009-12-15 3:55 ` Kevin O'Connor
2009-12-15 4:34 ` Kevin O'Connor
2009-12-15 13:15 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-15 14:20 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-15 14:33 ` [SeaBIOS] " Avi Kivity
2009-12-15 17:35 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-15 23:54 ` Kevin OConnor
2009-12-16 0:41 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-16 4:20 ` Kevin O'Connor
2009-12-15 9:17 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-12-15 10:14 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-12-15 19:10 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-16 12:03 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-12-16 12:39 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-16 13:42 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-12-16 13:52 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-16 14:12 ` Kevin O'Connor
2009-12-16 14:14 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-16 14:17 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-12-16 14:15 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-16 14:18 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-12-16 14:24 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-16 14:28 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-12-16 14:28 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-15 19:35 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-15 21:17 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-15 21:41 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-16 0:33 ` Chris Wright
2009-12-16 1:32 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-16 4:57 ` Kevin O'Connor
2009-12-16 12:31 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-12-16 16:22 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-12-17 1:24 ` Kevin O'Connor
2009-12-17 9:45 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-12-17 9:50 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-17 10:40 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-12-16 14:41 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-12-16 14:41 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-16 14:50 ` [SeaBIOS] " Gleb Natapov
2009-12-15 13:16 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-15 21:24 ` Sebastian Herbszt
2009-12-15 21:31 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-15 21:38 ` Sebastian Herbszt
2009-12-15 22:00 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-17 21:14 ` Sebastian Herbszt
2009-12-16 4:29 ` Kevin O'Connor
2009-12-16 12:01 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-12-15 19:21 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-15 21:19 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-15 21:45 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-15 21:52 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-15 21:57 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-15 21:59 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-15 22:26 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-15 22:51 ` Sebastian Herbszt
2009-12-16 14:49 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-12-17 20:33 ` Sebastian Herbszt
2009-12-15 10:51 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-15 19:05 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-15 19:06 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-14 20:43 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: qdev property bug? Anthony Liguori
2009-12-14 20:50 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2009-12-14 21:05 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-14 21:36 ` Sebastian Herbszt
2009-12-14 21:52 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-14 22:14 ` Sebastian Herbszt
2009-12-15 4:23 ` Kevin O'Connor
2009-12-14 20:47 ` Sebastian Herbszt
2009-12-14 20:56 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-14 20:38 ` Sebastian Herbszt
2009-12-14 19:51 ` Sebastian Herbszt
2009-12-14 14:22 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-14 17:03 ` Glauber Costa
2009-12-14 17:01 ` Glauber Costa
2009-12-14 14:10 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-14 14:52 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-12-14 14:54 ` Anthony Liguori
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