From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Kevin O'Connor <kevin@koconnor.net>,
Gerd Hoffmann <kraxel@redhat.com>,
Sebastian Herbszt <herbszt@gmx.de>
Subject: [Qemu-devel] Re: [SeaBIOS] [PATCH 0/8] option rom loadingoverhaul.
Date: Tue, 22 Dec 2009 08:57:26 -0600 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B30DE56.2070507@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20091222075833.GZ4490@redhat.com>
On 12/22/2009 01:58 AM, Gleb Natapov wrote:
>> Your cable TV provider does likely also control what beside the FW (if anything)
>> runs on your set-top-box. So he can verify the FW upgrade doesn't break anything
>> in the field. That pre-deployment verification is not possible in non closed
>> environments.
>>
>>
> Yet it doesn't stop HW manufacturers to require FW update as the first
> step of their support procedure. They don't do it automatically only
> because they can't.
>
Let's put correctness aside for a moment.
Right now, if you replace the contents of pc-bios while you have a guest
running, heck, even if you rm -rf, the guest will continue functioning
until you do a hard power off.
Changing this behavior feels like a regression to me. It really seems
to me like it makes things a lot more brittle.
The only benefit I can see is that you'll use a new rom after migration
after the first reset. Maybe that's desirable behavior although I'm not
sure.
I'd feel a lot better about something that read the real rom contents at
start-up, and then replaced migrated roms after reset or something like
that. That gives us the use-case without making qemu depend on
rereading things while it's running.
Regards,
Anthony Liguori
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2009-12-22 14:57 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 84+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2009-12-18 11:01 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 0/8] option rom loading overhaul Gerd Hoffmann
2009-12-18 11:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 1/8] Support PCI based option rom loading Gerd Hoffmann
2009-12-19 10:57 ` Blue Swirl
2009-12-20 15:34 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-20 17:02 ` Blue Swirl
2009-12-20 17:18 ` Alexander Graf
2009-12-20 17:55 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-20 18:01 ` Alexander Graf
2009-12-20 18:24 ` Andreas Färber
2009-12-20 18:53 ` Blue Swirl
2009-12-20 21:24 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-12-20 21:23 ` Benjamin Herrenschmidt
2009-12-18 11:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 2/8] pci romfiles: add property, add default to PCIDeviceInfo Gerd Hoffmann
2010-01-11 21:18 ` [Qemu-devel] [RFC] New naming rules for GPXE romfiles Stefan Weil
2010-01-11 21:34 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-01-12 10:23 ` Kevin Wolf
2009-12-18 11:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 3/8] fw_cfg: make calls typesafe Gerd Hoffmann
2009-12-18 11:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 4/8] fw_cfg: add API for file transfer Gerd Hoffmann
2009-12-19 12:06 ` Blue Swirl
2009-12-20 8:42 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [SeaBIOS] " Gleb Natapov
2009-12-18 11:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 5/8] roms: use new fw_cfg file xfer support Gerd Hoffmann
2009-12-20 8:45 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [SeaBIOS] " Gleb Natapov
2009-12-18 11:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 6/8] roms: remove option rom packing logic Gerd Hoffmann
2009-12-18 11:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 7/8] updated seabios binary for testing convinience Gerd Hoffmann
2009-12-18 11:01 ` [Qemu-devel] [PATCH 8/8] debug: enable bios messages Gerd Hoffmann
2009-12-18 14:35 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [SeaBIOS] [PATCH 0/8] option rom loading overhaul Anthony Liguori
2009-12-18 16:34 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-12-18 16:42 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-18 17:03 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-12-18 17:12 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-19 1:48 ` Kevin O'Connor
2009-12-19 3:07 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-18 17:14 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-18 18:04 ` Gerd Hoffmann
2009-12-18 19:41 ` Sebastian Herbszt
2009-12-18 19:53 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-18 20:10 ` Sebastian Herbszt
2009-12-20 8:38 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-12-20 14:43 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-20 14:52 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-12-20 14:58 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-20 15:07 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-12-20 15:11 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-20 15:20 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-20 15:31 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-20 15:35 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-22 13:04 ` Paul Brook
2009-12-22 13:09 ` Avi Kivity
2009-12-22 15:11 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-22 15:54 ` Paul Brook
2009-12-22 16:16 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-20 15:23 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-12-20 15:28 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-20 15:33 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-12-20 15:39 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-20 15:52 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-12-20 16:08 ` Blue Swirl
2009-12-20 16:15 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-12-20 16:23 ` Blue Swirl
2009-12-20 17:48 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-21 1:59 ` Kevin O'Connor
2009-12-21 7:32 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-12-21 16:40 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-21 16:43 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-12-21 17:26 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-21 17:43 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-12-21 18:24 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: Re: [SeaBIOS] [PATCH 0/8] option rom loadingoverhaul Sebastian Herbszt
2009-12-21 18:36 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-12-21 19:28 ` Sebastian Herbszt
2009-12-21 19:57 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-12-21 19:17 ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2009-12-21 19:39 ` Sebastian Herbszt
2009-12-21 19:53 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-12-21 20:16 ` Sebastian Herbszt
2009-12-22 7:58 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-12-22 14:57 ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2009-12-21 19:48 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-12-21 19:13 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [SeaBIOS] [PATCH 0/8] option rom loading overhaul Anthony Liguori
2009-12-21 19:43 ` Gleb Natapov
2009-12-21 23:54 ` Anthony Liguori
2009-12-22 20:50 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: Re: [SeaBIOS] [PATCH 0/8] option rom loadingoverhaul Sebastian Herbszt
2009-12-21 7:40 ` [Qemu-devel] Re: [SeaBIOS] [PATCH 0/8] option rom loading overhaul Gleb Natapov
2009-12-21 17:27 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-01-12 4:48 ` Jamie Lokier
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