* Xen power management default governor
@ 2010-01-11 12:50 John Haxby
2010-01-11 23:36 ` Kaushik Barde
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From: John Haxby @ 2010-01-11 12:50 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: xen-devel@lists.xensource.com
Can anyone tell me why the default governor for power management is
"userspace"? If there any reason why it shouldn't be "ondemand"?
And is there a userspace governor daemon that I've overlooked?
jch
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* RE: Xen power management default governor
2010-01-11 12:50 Xen power management default governor John Haxby
@ 2010-01-11 23:36 ` Kaushik Barde
2010-01-12 10:36 ` John Haxby
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From: Kaushik Barde @ 2010-01-11 23:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: 'John Haxby', xen-devel
I believe, userspace governor gives better application control for instance,
controlling P-states through existing userspace frequency scaling daemons.
Just easier to set one's own power management policy.
-Kaushik
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Subject: [Xen-devel] Xen power management default governor
Can anyone tell me why the default governor for power management is
"userspace"? If there any reason why it shouldn't be "ondemand"?
And is there a userspace governor daemon that I've overlooked?
jch
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* Re: Xen power management default governor
2010-01-11 23:36 ` Kaushik Barde
@ 2010-01-12 10:36 ` John Haxby
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From: John Haxby @ 2010-01-12 10:36 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Kaushik Barde; +Cc: xen-devel
On 11/01/10 23:36, Kaushik Barde wrote:
> I believe, userspace governor gives better application control for instance,
> controlling P-states through existing userspace frequency scaling daemons.
>
> Just easier to set one's own power management policy.
>
> -Kaushik
>
Yes, but that's true, but that doesn't explain why userspace is the
default, especially as there doesn't seem to be any userspace governor
in the distribution and anyway, the userspace default was abandoned in
the mainline Linux kernel because ondemand works rather better.
On most machines, "userspace" with no running governor daemon is the
same as "performance". However, on some BIOS revisions of some
hardware, "userspace" is the same as "powersave" and this basically
makes it look as though the system is running rather slower than you
would expect.
So while userspace might be good for people who have clear cut ideas of
what they think the policy for scaling should be, it's not good for
everyone else and, in fact, it might lead people to believe that
performance is actually rather poor.
> -----Original Message-----
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> Sent: Monday, January 11, 2010 4:51 AM
> To: xen-devel@lists.xensource.com
> Subject: [Xen-devel] Xen power management default governor
>
>
> Can anyone tell me why the default governor for power management is
> "userspace"? If there any reason why it shouldn't be "ondemand"?
>
> And is there a userspace governor daemon that I've overlooked?
>
> jch
>
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