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From: Cong Wang <amwang@redhat.com>
To: Octavian Purdila <opurdila@ixiacom.com>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, eric.dumazet@gmail.com,
	linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	nhorman@tuxdriver.com, linux-sctp@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC Patch] net: reserve ports for applications using fixed port numbers
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2010 12:45:38 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B6BA272.4090405@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201002042015.51092.opurdila@ixiacom.com>

Octavian Purdila wrote:
> On Thursday 04 February 2010 19:41:10 you wrote:
> 
>> From: Octavian Purdila <opurdila@ixiacom.com>
>> Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 14:44:01 +0200
>>
>>> My concern is that we can have multiple applications that require a
>>> fixed port and if those ports are significantly apart we will
>>> decrease the port range available for connect. And that will hurt
>>> the rate of which new connections can be opened.
>> I'm already uneasy about adding the simple check every time
>> we loop around in the bind port allocator.
>>
>> Adding an LSM hook to this spot?  I absolutely refuse to allow
>> that, it will completely kill bind performance.
>>
> 
> I think Tetsuo was proposing the LSM hook, so I'll leave him the daunting task 
> of convincing you of the benefit of that :) - I have no opinion on this due to 
> massive lack of knowledge.
> 
> I was just proposing to use a discrete set of ports instead of a range. The 
> check in the current patch:
> 
> int inet_is_reserved_local_port(int port)
> {
>        int min, max;
> 
>        inet_get_local_reserved_ports(&min, &max);
>        if (min && max)
>                return (port >= min && port <= max);
>        return 0;
> }
> 
> would become:
> 
> int inet_is_reserved_local_port(int port)
> {
> 	if (test_bit(port, reserved_ports))
> 		return 1;
> 	return 0;
> }
> 
> In theory it might be slower because of the reserved_ports bitmap will have a 
> larger memory footprint than just a min/max, especially with random port 
> allocation. But is this an issue in practice?

Again, using bitmap algorithm is not a problem and it's better, the
problem is sysctl interface, how would you plan to interact with users
via sysctl/proc if you use bitmap to handle this? I would like to hear
more details about this.

Thanks!


WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Cong Wang <amwang@redhat.com>
To: Octavian Purdila <opurdila@ixiacom.com>
Cc: David Miller <davem@davemloft.net>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, eric.dumazet@gmail.com,
	linux-rdma@vger.kernel.org, netdev@vger.kernel.org,
	nhorman@tuxdriver.com, linux-sctp@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [RFC Patch] net: reserve ports for applications using fixed port
Date: Fri, 05 Feb 2010 04:45:38 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B6BA272.4090405@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201002042015.51092.opurdila@ixiacom.com>

Octavian Purdila wrote:
> On Thursday 04 February 2010 19:41:10 you wrote:
> 
>> From: Octavian Purdila <opurdila@ixiacom.com>
>> Date: Thu, 4 Feb 2010 14:44:01 +0200
>>
>>> My concern is that we can have multiple applications that require a
>>> fixed port and if those ports are significantly apart we will
>>> decrease the port range available for connect. And that will hurt
>>> the rate of which new connections can be opened.
>> I'm already uneasy about adding the simple check every time
>> we loop around in the bind port allocator.
>>
>> Adding an LSM hook to this spot?  I absolutely refuse to allow
>> that, it will completely kill bind performance.
>>
> 
> I think Tetsuo was proposing the LSM hook, so I'll leave him the daunting task 
> of convincing you of the benefit of that :) - I have no opinion on this due to 
> massive lack of knowledge.
> 
> I was just proposing to use a discrete set of ports instead of a range. The 
> check in the current patch:
> 
> int inet_is_reserved_local_port(int port)
> {
>        int min, max;
> 
>        inet_get_local_reserved_ports(&min, &max);
>        if (min && max)
>                return (port >= min && port <= max);
>        return 0;
> }
> 
> would become:
> 
> int inet_is_reserved_local_port(int port)
> {
> 	if (test_bit(port, reserved_ports))
> 		return 1;
> 	return 0;
> }
> 
> In theory it might be slower because of the reserved_ports bitmap will have a 
> larger memory footprint than just a min/max, especially with random port 
> allocation. But is this an issue in practice?

Again, using bitmap algorithm is not a problem and it's better, the
problem is sysctl interface, how would you plan to interact with users
via sysctl/proc if you use bitmap to handle this? I would like to hear
more details about this.

Thanks!


  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-02-05  4:45 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 59+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-02-03  4:30 [RFC Patch] net: reserve ports for applications using fixed port numbers Amerigo Wang
2010-02-03  4:30 ` Amerigo Wang
2010-02-03  4:30 ` Amerigo Wang
     [not found] ` <20100203043332.3817.27932.sendpatchset-bi+AKbBUZKY6gyzm1THtWbp2dZbC/Bob@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-03  4:39   ` Eric Dumazet
2010-02-03  4:39     ` Eric Dumazet
2010-02-03  4:39     ` [RFC Patch] net: reserve ports for applications using fixed Eric Dumazet
2010-02-03  5:15     ` [RFC Patch] net: reserve ports for applications using fixed port numbers Cong Wang
2010-02-03  5:15       ` Cong Wang
2010-02-03  5:15       ` [RFC Patch] net: reserve ports for applications using fixed port Cong Wang
2010-02-03 11:12   ` [RFC Patch] net: reserve ports for applications using fixed port numbers Octavian Purdila
2010-02-03 11:12     ` Octavian Purdila
2010-02-03 11:12     ` Octavian Purdila
     [not found]     ` <201002031312.48531.opurdila-+zzKsuq53OdBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-04  3:23       ` Cong Wang
2010-02-04  3:23         ` Cong Wang
2010-02-04  3:23         ` [RFC Patch] net: reserve ports for applications using fixed port Cong Wang
     [not found]         ` <4B6A3DBA.1000706-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-04 12:44           ` [RFC Patch] net: reserve ports for applications using fixed port numbers Octavian Purdila
2010-02-04 12:44             ` Octavian Purdila
2010-02-04 12:44             ` Octavian Purdila
     [not found]             ` <201002041444.01897.opurdila-+zzKsuq53OdBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-04 17:41               ` David Miller
2010-02-04 17:41                 ` David Miller
2010-02-04 17:41                 ` [RFC Patch] net: reserve ports for applications using fixed David Miller
     [not found]                 ` <20100204.094110.64247447.davem-fT/PcQaiUtIeIZ0/mPfg9Q@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-04 18:15                   ` [RFC Patch] net: reserve ports for applications using fixed port numbers Octavian Purdila
2010-02-04 18:15                     ` Octavian Purdila
2010-02-04 18:15                     ` Octavian Purdila
     [not found]                     ` <201002042015.51092.opurdila-+zzKsuq53OdBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-04 18:21                       ` David Miller
2010-02-04 18:21                         ` David Miller
2010-02-04 18:21                         ` [RFC Patch] net: reserve ports for applications using fixed David Miller
2010-02-04 21:45                       ` [RFC Patch] net: reserve ports for applications using fixed port numbers Tetsuo Handa
2010-02-04 21:45                         ` Tetsuo Handa
2010-02-04 21:45                         ` Tetsuo Handa
     [not found]                         ` <201002050645.CEC95380.MLOtOVFFHSFOQJ-JPay3/Yim36HaxMnTkn67Xf5DAMn2ifp@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-04 21:56                           ` David Miller
2010-02-04 21:56                             ` David Miller
2010-02-04 21:56                             ` [RFC Patch] net: reserve ports for applications using fixed David Miller
2010-02-05  0:41                             ` [RFC Patch] net: reserve ports for applications using fixed port numbers Tetsuo Handa
2010-02-05  0:41                               ` Tetsuo Handa
2010-02-05  1:05                               ` Octavian Purdila
2010-02-05  1:05                                 ` Octavian Purdila
2010-02-05  5:58                                 ` [RFC Patch] net: reserve ports for applications using fixed port Cong Wang
2010-02-05  6:01                                   ` [RFC Patch] net: reserve ports for applications using fixed port numbers Cong Wang
2010-02-05 12:28                                   ` Octavian Purdila
2010-02-05 12:28                                     ` Octavian Purdila
2010-02-05  4:45                     ` Cong Wang [this message]
2010-02-05  4:45                       ` [RFC Patch] net: reserve ports for applications using fixed port Cong Wang
     [not found]                       ` <4B6BA272.4090405-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-05 12:05                         ` [RFC Patch] net: reserve ports for applications using fixed port numbers Octavian Purdila
2010-02-05 12:05                           ` Octavian Purdila
2010-02-05 12:05                           ` Octavian Purdila
     [not found]                           ` <201002051405.54029.opurdila-+zzKsuq53OdBDgjK7y7TUQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-08  3:21                             ` Cong Wang
2010-02-08  3:21                               ` Cong Wang
2010-02-08  3:21                               ` [RFC Patch] net: reserve ports for applications using fixed port Cong Wang
     [not found]                               ` <4B6F834E.4010801-H+wXaHxf7aLQT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-02-08 16:51                                 ` [RFC Patch] net: reserve ports for applications using fixed port numbers Octavian Purdila
2010-02-08 16:51                                   ` Octavian Purdila
2010-02-08 16:51                                   ` Octavian Purdila
2010-02-05  7:11 ` Bart Van Assche
2010-02-05  7:11   ` Bart Van Assche
2010-02-05  7:11   ` [RFC Patch] net: reserve ports for applications using fixed port Bart Van Assche
2010-02-05  7:25   ` [RFC Patch] net: reserve ports for applications using fixed port numbers Cong Wang
2010-02-05  7:25     ` [RFC Patch] net: reserve ports for applications using fixed port Cong Wang
2010-02-05  9:08     ` [RFC Patch] net: reserve ports for applications using fixed portnumbers Tetsuo Handa
2010-02-05  9:08       ` Tetsuo Handa

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