All of lore.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>
To: Neil Brown <neilb@suse.de>
Cc: Michael Evans <mjevans1983@gmail.com>,
	Justin Piszcz <jpiszcz@lucidpixels.com>,
	linux-raid@vger.kernel.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Linux mdadm superblock question.
Date: Mon, 15 Feb 2010 17:24:30 -0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B79F3CE.5030907@zytor.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100216112708.4a863f86@notabene.brown>

On 02/15/2010 04:27 PM, Neil Brown wrote:
> 
> When mdadm defaults to 1.0 for a RAID1 it prints a warning to the effect that
> the array might not be suitable to store '/boot', and requests confirmation.
> 
> So I assume that the people who are having this problem either do not read,
> or are using some partitioning tool that runs mdadm under the hood using
> "--run" to avoid the need for confirmation.  It would be nice to confirm if
> that was the case, and find out what tool is being used.

My guess is that they are using the latter.  However, some of it is
probably also a matter of not planning ahead, or not understanding the
error message.  I'll forward one email privately (don't want to forward
a private email to a list.)

> If an array is not being used for /boot (or /) then I still think that 1.1 is
> the better choice as it removes the possibility for confusion over partition
> tables.
> 
> I guess I could try defaulting to 1.2 in a partition, and 1.1 on a
> whole-device.  That might be a suitable compromise.

In some ways, 1.1 is even more toxic on a whole-device, since that means
that it is physically impossible to boot off of it -- the hardware will
only ever read the first sector (MBR).

> How do people cope with XFS??

There are three options:

a) either don't boot from it (separate /boot);
b) use a bootloader which installs in the MBR and
hopefully-unpartitioned disk areas (e.g. Grub);
c) use a nonstandard custom MBR.

Neither (b) or (c), of course, allow for chainloading from another OS
install and thus are bad for interoperability.

	-hpa

-- 
H. Peter Anvin, Intel Open Source Technology Center
I work for Intel.  I don't speak on their behalf.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-02-16  1:24 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 103+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-02-11 23:00 Linux mdadm superblock question Justin Piszcz
2010-02-12  1:52 ` Michael Evans
2010-02-12  9:06   ` Robin Hill
2010-02-12 21:53     ` Mr. James W. Laferriere
2010-02-16  0:57       ` Neil Brown
2010-02-16 16:42       ` Bill Davidsen
2010-02-13 19:58   ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-02-13 20:07     ` Justin Piszcz
2010-02-13 20:49       ` david
2010-02-13 21:07         ` Michael Evans
2010-02-13 21:07           ` Michael Evans
2010-02-13 21:29       ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-02-14 20:25         ` Asdo
2010-02-14 21:18           ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-02-14 21:34             ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2010-02-14 23:20             ` Rudy Zijlstra
2010-02-15  3:40               ` Mr. James W. Laferriere
2010-02-15  7:12                 ` Luca Berra
2010-02-16  0:38                   ` Neil Brown
2010-02-16  0:27     ` Neil Brown
2010-02-16  1:24       ` H. Peter Anvin [this message]
2010-02-16  3:18         ` david
2010-02-16  4:42           ` John Robinson
2010-02-16  4:42             ` John Robinson
2010-02-16  7:02           ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-02-16  8:46             ` Rudy Zijlstra
2010-02-16 17:05         ` Bill Davidsen
2010-02-16 23:30           ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-02-16 10:12       ` Giovanni Tessore
2010-02-17 23:10         ` Neil Brown
2010-02-16  3:40   ` CaT
2010-02-13  6:42 ` martin f krafft
2010-02-13  8:37 ` Giovanni Tessore
2010-02-13  9:26   ` Michael Evans
2010-02-13  9:35     ` Giovanni Tessore
2010-02-13  9:40       ` Michael Evans
2010-02-13 10:06         ` Giovanni Tessore
2010-02-16  0:50 ` Neil Brown
2010-02-16 13:14   ` Justin Piszcz
2010-02-16 20:09     ` mdadm FAQ (was: Linux mdadm superblock question.) martin f krafft
2010-03-06 11:38       ` mdadm FAQ - see http://raid.wiki.kernel.org/ David Greaves
2010-02-17 23:11     ` Linux mdadm superblock question Neil Brown
2010-02-16 17:24   ` Bill Davidsen
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-02-14  1:51 Volker Armin Hemmann
2010-02-14  1:51 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2010-02-14  4:02 ` Michael Evans
2010-02-14  4:02   ` Michael Evans
2010-02-14  7:21   ` david
2010-02-14  8:38     ` Michael Evans
2010-02-14 18:40   ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2010-02-14 18:53     ` John Robinson
2010-02-14 21:16       ` Gabor Gombas
     [not found]       ` <201002142013.24922.volkerarmin@googlemail.com>
2010-02-16 14:28         ` John Robinson
2010-02-16 14:37           ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2010-02-16 14:46             ` Robin Hill
2010-02-16 17:23             ` John Robinson
2010-02-16 19:38             ` Luca Berra
2010-02-16 17:18     ` Bill Davidsen
2010-02-16 21:06       ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2010-02-16 22:00         ` Nick Bowler
2010-02-16 22:18           ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2010-02-17 14:25             ` Nick Bowler
2010-02-18  9:27             ` Ian Dall
2010-02-17  1:03       ` Mr. James W. Laferriere
2010-02-17  2:01         ` Neil Brown
2010-02-17  2:38           ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2010-02-17  2:38             ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2010-02-17 23:15             ` Neil Brown
2010-02-17  6:34           ` Kyle Moffett
2010-02-17  6:34             ` Kyle Moffett
2010-02-17  9:38             ` Rudy Zijlstra
2010-02-17 13:26               ` Frans Pop
2010-02-17 20:54                 ` Gabor Gombas
2010-02-17 21:29                   ` Frans Pop
2010-02-18  3:40                   ` Goswin von Brederlow
2010-02-18  3:40                     ` Goswin von Brederlow
2010-02-17 16:22               ` Kyle Moffett
2010-02-17 16:22                 ` Kyle Moffett
2010-02-17 17:41                 ` david
2010-02-17 18:10                   ` Nick Bowler
2010-02-17 18:27                     ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2010-02-17 18:37                       ` Nick Bowler
2010-02-17 18:41                         ` david
2010-02-17 18:51                           ` Nick Bowler
2010-02-17 21:17                             ` david
2010-02-17 21:37                               ` Nick Bowler
2010-02-17 22:21                                 ` david
2010-02-17 18:46                         ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2010-02-17 22:26                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-02-18  3:33                     ` Goswin von Brederlow
2010-02-18  7:51                       ` Luca Berra
2010-02-18 14:12                       ` Nick Bowler
2010-02-19  9:04                         ` Michael Evans
2010-02-19  9:04                           ` Michael Evans
2010-02-14 19:34   ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2010-02-14 20:07     ` Michael Evans
2010-02-14 21:14       ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2010-02-14 20:47     ` Asdo
2010-02-14 21:26       ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2010-02-14 21:28       ` Gabor Gombas
2010-02-15  9:08         ` martin f krafft
2010-02-15  7:51 ` Luca Berra
     [not found] <edBWa-K7-9@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found] ` <edDXX-3XC-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <edRHA-7bL-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <eezfA-4N7-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
2010-02-16 21:10       ` Bodo Eggert

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=4B79F3CE.5030907@zytor.com \
    --to=hpa@zytor.com \
    --cc=jpiszcz@lucidpixels.com \
    --cc=linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=linux-raid@vger.kernel.org \
    --cc=mjevans1983@gmail.com \
    --cc=neilb@suse.de \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.