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From: John Robinson <john.robinson@anonymous.org.uk>
Cc: Linux RAID <linux-raid@vger.kernel.org>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Linux mdadm superblock question.
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 04:42:56 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B7A2250.5020909@anonymous.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1002151916280.5135@asgard.lang.hm>

On 16/02/2010 03:18, david@lang.hm wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Feb 2010, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> 
>> On 02/15/2010 04:27 PM, Neil Brown wrote:
>>
>> There are three options:
>>
>> a) either don't boot from it (separate /boot);
>> b) use a bootloader which installs in the MBR and
>> hopefully-unpartitioned disk areas (e.g. Grub);
>> c) use a nonstandard custom MBR.
>>
>> Neither (b) or (c), of course, allow for chainloading from another OS
>> install and thus are bad for interoperability.
> 
> I have had no problems with XFS partitions and lilo as the bootloader. 
> I've been doing this for a couple of years now without realizing that 
> there is supposed to be a problem.

There isn't, if you use partitions. It could (would) go wrong if you 
tried to put an XFS filesystem, or md RAID with a v1.1 superblock, on a 
whole disc without a partition table *and* you tried to put a bootloader 
on. I can't say it's ever occurred to me to do that, because I always 
assumed that whatever I put in a partition used all of it, and I 
couldn't expect to double-book the beginning of it and have it work.

Cheers,

John.

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From: John Robinson <john.robinson@anonymous.org.uk>
To: unlisted-recipients:; (no To-header on input)
Cc: Linux RAID <linux-raid@vger.kernel.org>, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: Linux mdadm superblock question.
Date: Tue, 16 Feb 2010 04:42:56 +0000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B7A2250.5020909@anonymous.org.uk> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.DEB.2.00.1002151916280.5135@asgard.lang.hm>

On 16/02/2010 03:18, david@lang.hm wrote:
> On Mon, 15 Feb 2010, H. Peter Anvin wrote:
> 
>> On 02/15/2010 04:27 PM, Neil Brown wrote:
>>
>> There are three options:
>>
>> a) either don't boot from it (separate /boot);
>> b) use a bootloader which installs in the MBR and
>> hopefully-unpartitioned disk areas (e.g. Grub);
>> c) use a nonstandard custom MBR.
>>
>> Neither (b) or (c), of course, allow for chainloading from another OS
>> install and thus are bad for interoperability.
> 
> I have had no problems with XFS partitions and lilo as the bootloader. 
> I've been doing this for a couple of years now without realizing that 
> there is supposed to be a problem.

There isn't, if you use partitions. It could (would) go wrong if you 
tried to put an XFS filesystem, or md RAID with a v1.1 superblock, on a 
whole disc without a partition table *and* you tried to put a bootloader 
on. I can't say it's ever occurred to me to do that, because I always 
assumed that whatever I put in a partition used all of it, and I 
couldn't expect to double-book the beginning of it and have it work.

Cheers,

John.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-02-16  4:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 103+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-02-11 23:00 Linux mdadm superblock question Justin Piszcz
2010-02-12  1:52 ` Michael Evans
2010-02-12  9:06   ` Robin Hill
2010-02-12 21:53     ` Mr. James W. Laferriere
2010-02-16  0:57       ` Neil Brown
2010-02-16 16:42       ` Bill Davidsen
2010-02-13 19:58   ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-02-13 20:07     ` Justin Piszcz
2010-02-13 20:49       ` david
2010-02-13 21:07         ` Michael Evans
2010-02-13 21:07           ` Michael Evans
2010-02-13 21:29       ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-02-14 20:25         ` Asdo
2010-02-14 21:18           ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-02-14 21:34             ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2010-02-14 23:20             ` Rudy Zijlstra
2010-02-15  3:40               ` Mr. James W. Laferriere
2010-02-15  7:12                 ` Luca Berra
2010-02-16  0:38                   ` Neil Brown
2010-02-16  0:27     ` Neil Brown
2010-02-16  1:24       ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-02-16  3:18         ` david
2010-02-16  4:42           ` John Robinson [this message]
2010-02-16  4:42             ` John Robinson
2010-02-16  7:02           ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-02-16  8:46             ` Rudy Zijlstra
2010-02-16 17:05         ` Bill Davidsen
2010-02-16 23:30           ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-02-16 10:12       ` Giovanni Tessore
2010-02-17 23:10         ` Neil Brown
2010-02-16  3:40   ` CaT
2010-02-13  6:42 ` martin f krafft
2010-02-13  8:37 ` Giovanni Tessore
2010-02-13  9:26   ` Michael Evans
2010-02-13  9:35     ` Giovanni Tessore
2010-02-13  9:40       ` Michael Evans
2010-02-13 10:06         ` Giovanni Tessore
2010-02-16  0:50 ` Neil Brown
2010-02-16 13:14   ` Justin Piszcz
2010-02-16 20:09     ` mdadm FAQ (was: Linux mdadm superblock question.) martin f krafft
2010-03-06 11:38       ` mdadm FAQ - see http://raid.wiki.kernel.org/ David Greaves
2010-02-17 23:11     ` Linux mdadm superblock question Neil Brown
2010-02-16 17:24   ` Bill Davidsen
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-02-14  1:51 Volker Armin Hemmann
2010-02-14  1:51 ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2010-02-14  4:02 ` Michael Evans
2010-02-14  4:02   ` Michael Evans
2010-02-14  7:21   ` david
2010-02-14  8:38     ` Michael Evans
2010-02-14 18:40   ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2010-02-14 18:53     ` John Robinson
2010-02-14 21:16       ` Gabor Gombas
     [not found]       ` <201002142013.24922.volkerarmin@googlemail.com>
2010-02-16 14:28         ` John Robinson
2010-02-16 14:37           ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2010-02-16 14:46             ` Robin Hill
2010-02-16 17:23             ` John Robinson
2010-02-16 19:38             ` Luca Berra
2010-02-16 17:18     ` Bill Davidsen
2010-02-16 21:06       ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2010-02-16 22:00         ` Nick Bowler
2010-02-16 22:18           ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2010-02-17 14:25             ` Nick Bowler
2010-02-18  9:27             ` Ian Dall
2010-02-17  1:03       ` Mr. James W. Laferriere
2010-02-17  2:01         ` Neil Brown
2010-02-17  2:38           ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2010-02-17  2:38             ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2010-02-17 23:15             ` Neil Brown
2010-02-17  6:34           ` Kyle Moffett
2010-02-17  6:34             ` Kyle Moffett
2010-02-17  9:38             ` Rudy Zijlstra
2010-02-17 13:26               ` Frans Pop
2010-02-17 20:54                 ` Gabor Gombas
2010-02-17 21:29                   ` Frans Pop
2010-02-18  3:40                   ` Goswin von Brederlow
2010-02-18  3:40                     ` Goswin von Brederlow
2010-02-17 16:22               ` Kyle Moffett
2010-02-17 16:22                 ` Kyle Moffett
2010-02-17 17:41                 ` david
2010-02-17 18:10                   ` Nick Bowler
2010-02-17 18:27                     ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2010-02-17 18:37                       ` Nick Bowler
2010-02-17 18:41                         ` david
2010-02-17 18:51                           ` Nick Bowler
2010-02-17 21:17                             ` david
2010-02-17 21:37                               ` Nick Bowler
2010-02-17 22:21                                 ` david
2010-02-17 18:46                         ` Volker Armin Hemmann
2010-02-17 22:26                           ` H. Peter Anvin
2010-02-18  3:33                     ` Goswin von Brederlow
2010-02-18  7:51                       ` Luca Berra
2010-02-18 14:12                       ` Nick Bowler
2010-02-19  9:04                         ` Michael Evans
2010-02-19  9:04                           ` Michael Evans
2010-02-14 19:34   ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2010-02-14 20:07     ` Michael Evans
2010-02-14 21:14       ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2010-02-14 20:47     ` Asdo
2010-02-14 21:26       ` Henrique de Moraes Holschuh
2010-02-14 21:28       ` Gabor Gombas
2010-02-15  9:08         ` martin f krafft
2010-02-15  7:51 ` Luca Berra
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     [not found] ` <edDXX-3XC-7@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]   ` <edRHA-7bL-13@gated-at.bofh.it>
     [not found]     ` <eezfA-4N7-11@gated-at.bofh.it>
2010-02-16 21:10       ` Bodo Eggert

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