All of lore.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Zachary Amsden <zamsden@redhat.com>
To: Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>
Cc: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>, Joerg Roedel <joerg.roedel@amd.com>,
	kvm <kvm@vger.kernel.org>
Subject: Re: Nested SVM and migration
Date: Mon, 22 Feb 2010 06:56:28 -1000	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B82B73C.6030600@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100221155624.GD26465@8bytes.org>

On 02/21/2010 05:56 AM, Joerg Roedel wrote:
> On Sun, Feb 21, 2010 at 05:07:45PM +0200, Avi Kivity wrote:
>    
>> On 02/21/2010 04:43 PM, Joerg Roedel wrote:
>>      
>>> Difficult. We could use an instruction intercept which has no side
>>> effect on guest state (invlpg for example).
>>>        
>> Especially as the guest might disable it and BUG() if npt is enabled.
>>
>>      
>>> But thats a lot more
>>> dangerous than an INTR intercept. What about PENDING_INTERRUPT? Are
>>> there hypervisors that may get confused getting this intercept without
>>> asking for it?
>>>
>>>        
>> That will likely confuse kvm, it means interrupts are not blocked so it
>> is okay to inject one, and if the guest is running with interrupts
>> disabled then the next entry will fail.
>>      
> Completly different idea:
>
> 1. Give userspace an ioctl to freeze the complete VM (all vcpus must be
>     stopped afterwards)
> 2. The freeze routine does the following:
>
> freeze_vm(...)
> {
> 	stop_all_vcpus();
> 	for_each_vcpu(vcpu)
> 		kvm_x86_ops->freeze_vcpu(vcpu);
> }
>
> The module specific freeze_vcpu function can save the nested state
> inside the guests memory (vmcs area for nested-vmx and hsave area for
> nested-svm). When no vcpu is running anymore this is save.
>
> After migration the information is restored from there before any vcpu
> is started again.
>
> unfreeze_vm(...)
> {
> 	for_each_vcpu(vcpu)
> 		kvm_x86_ops->unfreeze_vcpu(vcpu);
> 	restart_all_vcpus();
> }
>    

This is exactly the ioctl approach, yes?

> In the SVM case this still leaves the problem that the MSR bitmap must
> be read again from guests memory on unfreeze but that is not a real
> problem.
>    

This is easily solved by shadowing the MSR bitmap.  Too bad we have to 
do it, but at least the state isn't hidden in a non-extractable field 
inside the processor.

Zach

  parent reply	other threads:[~2010-02-22 16:56 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 28+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-02-20 19:14 Nested SVM and migration Zachary Amsden
2010-02-20 20:18 ` Joerg Roedel
2010-02-20 23:26   ` Zachary Amsden
2010-02-21 12:10     ` Joerg Roedel
2010-02-21 12:24       ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-21 12:41         ` Joerg Roedel
2010-02-21 12:54           ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-21 13:09             ` Joerg Roedel
2010-02-21 13:14               ` Avi Kivity
     [not found]                 ` <4B8137E7.4030001@redhat.com>
     [not found]                   ` <20100221144352.GC26465@8bytes.org>
2010-02-22 16:54                     ` Zachary Amsden
     [not found]                     ` <4B814C41.7010105@redhat.com>
     [not found]                       ` <20100221155624.GD26465@8bytes.org>
2010-02-22 16:56                         ` Zachary Amsden [this message]
2010-02-22 16:59                           ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-22 16:46               ` Zachary Amsden
2010-02-22 17:07                 ` Joerg Roedel
2010-02-24 15:23               ` Joerg Roedel
2010-02-24 20:21                 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-02-22 16:42         ` Zachary Amsden
2010-02-22 16:44           ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-22 17:00             ` Zachary Amsden
2010-02-22 17:02               ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-22 17:07                 ` Zachary Amsden
2010-02-22 17:11                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-22 17:24                     ` Zachary Amsden
2010-02-22 16:39       ` Zachary Amsden
2010-02-21  7:23   ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-21  7:46     ` Gleb Natapov
2010-02-21  8:12       ` Avi Kivity
2010-02-21 12:18     ` Joerg Roedel

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=4B82B73C.6030600@redhat.com \
    --to=zamsden@redhat.com \
    --cc=avi@redhat.com \
    --cc=joerg.roedel@amd.com \
    --cc=joro@8bytes.org \
    --cc=kvm@vger.kernel.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.