From: Jeff Garzik <jeff@garzik.org>
To: Matthew Garrett <mjg59@srcf.ucam.org>
Cc: Linus Torvalds <torvalds@linux-foundation.org>,
Dave Airlie <airlied@linux.ie>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, dri-devel@lists.sf.net
Subject: Re: [git pull] drm request 3
Date: Thu, 04 Mar 2010 14:32:02 -0500 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4B900AB2.1020603@garzik.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100304190450.GA23807@srcf.ucam.org>
On 03/04/2010 02:04 PM, Matthew Garrett wrote:
> "Please note that these drivers are under heavy development, may or may
> not work, and may contain userspace interfaces that most likely will be
> changed in the near future."
Shipping it as the default Fedora driver for NVIDIA hardware makes that
text largely irrelevant.
Jesse said
> Dave and the nouveau guys include the driver in Fedora to get
> much needed test coverage, and make sure the latest bits in rawhide
> work together.
but when it is the default driver, it is the default _production_ driver
for Fedora users, in an official, stable Fedora release.
And the alternative? You said
> F-12 continues to ship the -nv driver, which will work fine with any
> kernel version as long as nouveau is disabled.
FAIL. I actually tried that. Have you? Do you think it is remotely
easy for a technically component, non-Xorg-hacker type to accomplish?
I attempted to use the non-default 'nv' driver just before nouveau was
merged into upstream/staging, because I wanted a development kernel that
actually worked on my Fedora-based devel boxes. It was a complete
exercise in frustration, requiring at least one bugzilla bug report, and
ultimately resulted in failure.
I gave up and waiting for Linus to merge nouveau, which instantly made
my life a lot easier :)
Kernel hacking on Fedora, my own dogfood, has become increasingly
cumbersome because of all these graphics issues. Sometimes it's just
easier to test a modern kernel on an ancient distro, sadly.
Jeff
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2010-03-02 23:56 [git pull] drm request 3 Dave Airlie
2010-03-04 18:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-04 18:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-04 18:27 ` Matt Turner
2010-03-04 18:27 ` Matt Turner
2010-03-04 18:36 ` Jesse Barnes
2010-03-04 18:39 ` Jesse Barnes
2010-03-04 18:39 ` Jesse Barnes
2010-03-04 18:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-04 18:51 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-04 18:56 ` Jesse Barnes
2010-03-04 19:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-04 19:25 ` Dave Airlie
2010-03-04 20:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-04 22:06 ` Dave Airlie
2010-03-05 0:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-05 0:28 ` Ben Skeggs
2010-03-05 0:28 ` Ben Skeggs
2010-03-05 0:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-05 0:41 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-05 0:56 ` Luc Verhaegen
2010-03-05 0:56 ` Luc Verhaegen
2010-03-05 1:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-05 1:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-05 1:16 ` Luc Verhaegen
2010-03-05 1:16 ` Luc Verhaegen
2010-03-05 1:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-05 1:22 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-05 1:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-05 1:20 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-05 1:28 ` Dave Airlie
2010-03-05 1:28 ` Dave Airlie
2010-03-05 5:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-05 5:22 ` Dave Airlie
2010-03-05 5:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-05 5:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-05 5:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-05 5:42 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-05 5:22 ` Dave Airlie
2010-03-05 5:17 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-05 1:19 ` Upstream first policy Kyle McMartin
2010-03-05 1:28 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-05 2:00 ` [git pull] drm request 3 Tony Luck
2010-03-05 2:00 ` Tony Luck
2010-03-05 20:34 ` Felipe Contreras
2010-03-05 20:34 ` Felipe Contreras
2010-03-05 6:49 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-05 6:49 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-05 7:06 ` Pekka Enberg
2010-03-05 7:06 ` Pekka Enberg
2010-03-05 7:17 ` "C. Bergström"
2010-03-05 7:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-05 7:53 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-05 15:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-05 15:18 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-05 7:17 ` "C. Bergström"
2010-03-05 7:44 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-05 7:58 ` Dave Airlie
2010-03-05 7:58 ` Dave Airlie
2010-03-05 8:16 ` Stephane Marchesin
2010-03-05 8:16 ` Stephane Marchesin
2010-03-05 10:00 ` Making Xorg easier to test (was Re: [git pull] drm request 3) Carlos R. Mafra
2010-03-05 12:54 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2010-03-05 12:54 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2010-03-05 15:22 ` Matt Turner
2010-03-05 15:22 ` Matt Turner
2010-03-05 15:41 ` Daniel Stone
2010-03-05 15:41 ` Daniel Stone
2010-03-05 15:49 ` Making Xorg easier to test David Miller
2010-03-05 15:49 ` David Miller
2010-03-05 16:03 ` Alan Cox
2010-03-05 16:03 ` Alan Cox
2010-03-05 16:06 ` Daniel Stone
2010-03-05 16:06 ` Daniel Stone
2010-03-05 17:50 ` Xavier Bestel
2010-03-05 17:50 ` Xavier Bestel
2010-03-05 17:54 ` David Miller
2010-03-05 17:54 ` David Miller
2010-03-05 18:02 ` Jesse Barnes
2010-03-05 18:02 ` Jesse Barnes
2010-03-05 18:05 ` David Miller
2010-03-05 18:05 ` David Miller
2010-03-05 15:53 ` Making Xorg easier to test (was Re: [git pull] drm request 3) Linus Torvalds
2010-03-05 16:11 ` Daniel Stone
2010-03-05 16:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-05 16:30 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-08 8:57 ` Daniel Stone
2010-03-08 8:57 ` Daniel Stone
2010-03-05 16:11 ` Daniel Stone
2010-03-05 16:26 ` Jesse Barnes
2010-03-05 16:26 ` Jesse Barnes
2010-03-05 15:53 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-05 10:00 ` Carlos R. Mafra
2010-03-05 13:55 ` [git pull] drm request 3 Luc Verhaegen
2010-03-05 13:55 ` Luc Verhaegen
2010-03-05 16:21 ` Jesse Barnes
2010-03-05 16:21 ` Jesse Barnes
2010-03-05 7:44 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-05 12:38 ` Alan Cox
2010-03-05 12:38 ` Alan Cox
2010-03-05 14:37 ` David Miller
2010-03-05 14:46 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-03-05 14:46 ` Mike Galbraith
2010-03-05 18:05 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-05 18:05 ` Ingo Molnar
2010-03-05 15:09 ` Alan Cox
2010-03-05 15:09 ` Alan Cox
2010-03-05 15:11 ` David Miller
2010-03-05 15:11 ` David Miller
2010-03-05 15:17 ` Daniel Stone
2010-03-05 15:17 ` Daniel Stone
2010-03-05 15:26 ` David Miller
2010-03-05 15:40 ` Daniel Stone
2010-03-05 15:40 ` Daniel Stone
2010-03-05 15:48 ` David Miller
2010-03-05 15:48 ` David Miller
2010-03-05 16:02 ` Alan Cox
2010-03-05 16:05 ` David Miller
2010-03-05 16:05 ` David Miller
2010-03-05 17:58 ` Younes Manton
2010-03-05 17:58 ` Younes Manton
2010-03-05 16:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-05 16:13 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-05 16:23 ` Alan Cox
2010-03-05 16:23 ` Alan Cox
2010-03-05 16:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-05 16:44 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-05 17:04 ` Alan Cox
2010-03-05 17:10 ` "C. Bergström"
2010-03-05 17:19 ` tytso
2010-03-05 23:54 ` Garry Hurley
2010-03-05 17:19 ` tytso
2010-03-05 17:04 ` Alan Cox
2010-03-05 16:02 ` Alan Cox
2010-03-05 16:04 ` Daniel Stone
2010-03-05 16:06 ` David Miller
2010-03-05 16:06 ` David Miller
2010-03-05 16:31 ` Alan Cox
2010-03-05 17:36 ` Jerome Glisse
2010-03-05 17:36 ` Jerome Glisse
2010-03-05 16:31 ` Alan Cox
2010-03-05 16:46 ` tytso
2010-03-05 16:46 ` tytso
2010-03-05 19:38 ` Corbin Simpson
2010-03-05 19:38 ` Corbin Simpson
2010-03-05 21:01 ` Corbin Simpson
2010-03-05 21:01 ` Corbin Simpson
2010-03-05 21:51 ` tytso
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2010-03-05 22:59 ` Corbin Simpson
2010-03-05 23:50 ` Tilman Schmidt
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2010-03-05 17:23 ` Linus Torvalds
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2010-03-06 6:17 ` Dale Farnsworth
2010-03-06 17:21 ` Valdis.Kletnieks
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2010-03-05 16:04 ` Daniel Stone
2010-03-05 15:56 ` Luca Barbieri
2010-03-05 15:56 ` Luca Barbieri
2010-03-05 16:13 ` Alan Cox
2010-03-05 16:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-05 16:19 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-05 16:38 ` Alan Cox
2010-03-05 16:38 ` Alan Cox
2010-03-05 20:59 ` Felipe Contreras
2010-03-05 20:59 ` Felipe Contreras
2010-03-05 16:25 ` Luca Barbieri
2010-03-05 16:25 ` Luca Barbieri
2010-03-05 16:13 ` Alan Cox
2010-03-05 15:42 ` Alan Cox
2010-03-05 15:42 ` Alan Cox
2010-03-05 16:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-05 16:07 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-05 15:26 ` David Miller
2010-03-05 17:42 ` Jeff Garzik
2010-03-05 17:42 ` Jeff Garzik
2010-03-05 19:11 ` Justin P. mattock
2010-03-05 19:11 ` Justin P. mattock
2010-03-05 14:37 ` David Miller
2010-03-05 0:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-04 22:06 ` Dave Airlie
2010-03-04 19:25 ` Dave Airlie
2010-03-04 19:33 ` Jesse Barnes
2010-03-04 19:33 ` Jesse Barnes
2010-03-04 19:08 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-04 18:56 ` Jesse Barnes
2010-03-04 19:12 ` Matthew Garrett
2010-03-04 19:12 ` Matthew Garrett
2010-03-04 18:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-04 18:45 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-04 18:36 ` Jesse Barnes
2010-03-04 18:43 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-04 18:50 ` Matthew Garrett
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2010-03-04 18:55 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-04 19:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-04 19:01 ` Linus Torvalds
2010-03-04 19:04 ` Matthew Garrett
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2010-03-04 19:25 ` Matthew Garrett
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2010-03-04 20:57 ` Stephane Marchesin
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