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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@web.de>
Cc: Chris Wright <chrisw@redhat.com>,
	kvm@vger.kernel.org, qemu-devel@nongnu.org
Subject: Re: KVM call agenda for Mar 23
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 12:57:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BA89E7F.2010200@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4BA89D09.8040700@web.de>

On 03/23/2010 12:50 PM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> Avi Kivity wrote:
>    
>> On 03/23/2010 11:31 AM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>>      
>>> Chris Wright wrote:
>>>
>>>        
>>>> Please send in any agenda items you are interested in covering.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, usability is a valid topic esp. if you promise to come w/ GUI
>>>> patches.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>          
>>> - state and roadmap for upstream merge of in-kernel device models
>>>     (looks to me like this central merge effort is stalled ATM)
>>>
>>>        
>> - alternative path of merging qemu-kvm.git's implementation as is and
>> cleaning it up in qemu.git.
>>
>> For kvm.git, I wouldn't dream of merging something with outstanding
>> issues and cleaning them up "later", but the situation is somewhat
>> different with qemu vs qemu-kvm.
>>
>>      
> So the benefit would be less merge conflicts/regressions on
> qemu-kvm.git? But you may break non-x86 KVM support in upstream as it
> already uses the cleaned up kvm subsystem. /me is not immediately
> convinced...
>    

The benefit would be that qemu-kvm.git would become a staging tree 
instead of the master repository for kvm users.  As an example, we 
wouldn't have any bisectability problems.  kvm features would need to be 
written just once.


> We are more than half-way through this, so let's focus efforts for the
> last bits that make the difference widely negligible. This investment
> should pay off rather quickly.
>    

If we merge now, we merge the half-completed effort so we don't lose 
anything.  However, if we can complete the merge quickly, I'm all for 
it.  I don't want to introduce the ugliness into qemu.git any more than 
you do.

Note, the above discussion ignores extboot and device assignment, but 
let's focus on the thorny bits first.

-- 
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function


WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Jan Kiszka <jan.kiszka@web.de>
Cc: Chris Wright <chrisw@redhat.com>,
	qemu-devel@nongnu.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org
Subject: [Qemu-devel] Re: KVM call agenda for Mar 23
Date: Tue, 23 Mar 2010 12:57:03 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BA89E7F.2010200@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4BA89D09.8040700@web.de>

On 03/23/2010 12:50 PM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
> Avi Kivity wrote:
>    
>> On 03/23/2010 11:31 AM, Jan Kiszka wrote:
>>      
>>> Chris Wright wrote:
>>>
>>>        
>>>> Please send in any agenda items you are interested in covering.
>>>>
>>>> Yes, usability is a valid topic esp. if you promise to come w/ GUI
>>>> patches.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>          
>>> - state and roadmap for upstream merge of in-kernel device models
>>>     (looks to me like this central merge effort is stalled ATM)
>>>
>>>        
>> - alternative path of merging qemu-kvm.git's implementation as is and
>> cleaning it up in qemu.git.
>>
>> For kvm.git, I wouldn't dream of merging something with outstanding
>> issues and cleaning them up "later", but the situation is somewhat
>> different with qemu vs qemu-kvm.
>>
>>      
> So the benefit would be less merge conflicts/regressions on
> qemu-kvm.git? But you may break non-x86 KVM support in upstream as it
> already uses the cleaned up kvm subsystem. /me is not immediately
> convinced...
>    

The benefit would be that qemu-kvm.git would become a staging tree 
instead of the master repository for kvm users.  As an example, we 
wouldn't have any bisectability problems.  kvm features would need to be 
written just once.


> We are more than half-way through this, so let's focus efforts for the
> last bits that make the difference widely negligible. This investment
> should pay off rather quickly.
>    

If we merge now, we merge the half-completed effort so we don't lose 
anything.  However, if we can complete the merge quickly, I'm all for 
it.  I don't want to introduce the ugliness into qemu.git any more than 
you do.

Note, the above discussion ignores extboot and device assignment, but 
let's focus on the thorny bits first.

-- 
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function

  reply	other threads:[~2010-03-23 10:57 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-23  6:11 KVM call agenda for Mar 23 Chris Wright
2010-03-23  6:11 ` [Qemu-devel] " Chris Wright
2010-03-23  8:40 ` Juan Quintela
2010-03-23  8:40   ` [Qemu-devel] " Juan Quintela
2010-03-23 13:25   ` Juan Quintela
2010-03-23 13:25     ` [Qemu-devel] " Juan Quintela
2010-03-23  9:31 ` Jan Kiszka
2010-03-23  9:31   ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2010-03-23  9:52   ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-23  9:52     ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2010-03-23 10:50     ` Jan Kiszka
2010-03-23 10:50       ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2010-03-23 10:57       ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2010-03-23 10:57         ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-23 11:13         ` Jan Kiszka
2010-03-23 11:13           ` [Qemu-devel] " Jan Kiszka
2010-03-23 12:29           ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-23 12:29             ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2010-03-23 12:45     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-23 12:45       ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori
2010-03-23 12:51       ` Avi Kivity
2010-03-23 12:51         ` [Qemu-devel] " Avi Kivity
2010-03-23 12:56       ` Jes Sorensen
2010-03-23 12:56         ` Jes Sorensen
2010-03-25  1:31         ` Zhang, Xiantao
2010-03-25  1:31           ` Zhang, Xiantao
2010-03-25  9:39           ` Jan Kiszka
2010-03-25  9:39             ` Jan Kiszka
2010-03-25  9:43             ` Jes Sorensen
2010-03-25  9:43               ` Jes Sorensen
2010-03-26 18:48               ` Chris Wright
2010-03-26 18:48                 ` Chris Wright
2010-03-23 12:40 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-03-23 12:40   ` [Qemu-devel] " Anthony Liguori

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