From: Milan Broz <mbroz@redhat.com>
To: dm-crypt@saout.de
Subject: Re: [dm-crypt] avoid keyloggers: enter password with mouse (virtual keyboard)
Date: Tue, 13 Apr 2010 21:55:00 +0200 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BC4CC14.6080408@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100413193831.GA8772@fancy-poultry.org>
On 04/13/2010 09:38 PM, Heinz Diehl wrote:
> On 13.04.2010, Arno Wagner wrote:
>
>> If he has a hardware Keylogger on his system, somebody
>> did physically manipulate his machine and all bets
>> are off anyways.
>
> Of course.
>
> So this boils down to the fact that a software keyboard is useless :-)
> If somebody had physical access to the machine, there will be no
> way to detect any backdoors, and if somebody had been able to install a
> software keylogger, this person has already gained root access to the machine
> and could simply have read the master key from memory or whatever, you
> name it.
I just remember schoolbook example with "software keyboard" where
such keyboard was used to enter PIN using mouse.
Instead of sending the key scan code back to hidden logger program,
it simply send rectangular areas on screen (screenshot) centered to
mouse clicks...
So attacker can easily read pin code from these few-bytes small pictures
of visual keyboard:-)
Milan
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-04-13 19:55 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 31+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-04-12 15:10 [dm-crypt] avoid keyloggers: enter password with mouse (virtual keyboard) Olivier Sessink
2010-04-12 17:15 ` Arno Wagner
2010-04-12 17:58 ` Heinz Diehl
2010-04-13 15:48 ` Arno Wagner
2010-04-13 19:38 ` Heinz Diehl
2010-04-13 19:55 ` Milan Broz [this message]
2010-04-14 13:11 ` Olivier Sessink
2010-04-14 15:30 ` Arno Wagner
2010-04-14 18:42 ` Olivier Sessink
2010-04-14 23:30 ` Arno Wagner
2010-04-14 23:54 ` Sven Eschenberg
2010-04-15 6:24 ` Milan Broz
2010-04-15 10:00 ` Arno Wagner
2010-04-15 7:50 ` test532
2010-04-15 10:04 ` Arno Wagner
2010-04-15 17:44 ` Richard Zidlicky
2010-04-15 18:04 ` [dm-crypt] avoid keyloggers: enter password with mouse(virtual keyboard) Vladimir Giszpenc
2011-10-04 15:02 ` [dm-crypt] avoid keyloggers: enter password with mouse (virtual keyboard) Jan
2011-10-04 18:28 ` [dm-crypt] avoid keyloggers: enter password with mouse?(virtual?keyboard) Arno Wagner
2011-10-04 21:42 ` Jan
2011-10-04 22:48 ` Arno Wagner
2011-10-05 9:37 ` Jan
2011-10-05 12:15 ` Arno Wagner
2011-10-05 18:18 ` Jan
2011-10-04 18:48 ` Heinz Diehl
2011-11-30 14:22 ` Ma Begaj
2011-11-30 14:28 ` Ma Begaj
2011-11-30 14:46 ` Arno Wagner
2011-11-30 15:11 ` Ma Begaj
2010-04-12 21:43 ` [dm-crypt] avoid keyloggers: enter password with mouse (virtual keyboard) Olivier Sessink
2010-04-12 17:51 ` Richard Zidlicky
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