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From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Sheng Yang <sheng@linux.intel.com>
Cc: Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>,
	"Zhang, Yanmin" <yanmin_zhang@linux.intel.com>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@elte.hu>,
	Peter Zijlstra <a.p.zijlstra@chello.nl>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
	Marcelo Tosatti <mtosatti@redhat.com>,
	Jes Sorensen <Jes.Sorensen@redhat.com>,
	Gleb Natapov <gleb@redhat.com>,
	Zachary Amsden <zamsden@redhat.com>,
	zhiteng.huang@intel.com, tim.c.chen@intel.com,
	Arnaldo Carvalho de Melo <acme@infradead.org>
Subject: Re: [PATCH V3] perf & kvm: Enhance perf to collect KVM guest  os statistics from host side
Date: Sat, 17 Apr 2010 21:12:41 +0300	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BC9FA19.2070602@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <201004152208.08409.sheng@linux.intel.com>

On 04/15/2010 05:08 PM, Sheng Yang wrote:
> On Thursday 15 April 2010 18:44:15 Avi Kivity wrote:
>    
>> On 04/15/2010 01:40 PM, Joerg Roedel wrote:
>>      
>>>> That means an NMI that happens outside guest code (for example, in the
>>>> mmu, or during the exit itself) would be counted as if in guest code.
>>>>          
>>> Hmm, true. The same is true for an NMI that happens between VMSAVE and
>>> STGI but that window is smaller. Anyway, I think we don't need the
>>> busy-wait loop. The NMI should be executed at a well defined point and
>>> we set the cpu_var back to NULL after that point.
>>>        
>> The point is not well defined.  Considering there are already at least
>> two implementations svm, I don't want to rely on implementation details.
>>      
> After more investigating, I realized that I had interpreted the SDM wrong.
> Sorry.
>
> There is *no* risk with the original method of calling "int $2".
>
> According to the SDM 24.1:
>
>    
>> The following bullets detail when architectural state is and is not updated
>>      
> in response to VM exits:
> [...]
>    
>> - An NMI causes subsequent NMIs to be blocked, but only after the VM exit
>>      
> completes.
>
> So the truth is, after NMI directly caused VMExit, the following NMIs would be
> blocked, until encountered next "iret". So execute "int $2" is safe in
> vmx_complete_interrupts(), no risk in causing nested NMI. And it would unblock
> the following NMIs as well due to "iret" it executed.
>
> So there is unnecessary to make change to avoid "potential nested NMI".
>    

Let's look at the surrounding text...

>
> The following bullets detail when architectural state is and is not 
> updated in response
> to VM exits:
> •   If an event causes a VM exit directly, it does not update 
> architectural state as it
>     would have if it had it not caused the VM exit:
>     — A debug exception does not update DR6, DR7.GD, or IA32_DEBUGCTL.LBR.
>         (Information about the nature of the debug exception is saved 
> in the exit
>         qualification field.)
>     — A page fault does not update CR2. (The linear address causing 
> the page fault
>         is saved in the exit-qualification field.)
>     — An NMI causes subsequent NMIs to be blocked, but only after the 
> VM exit
>         completes.
>     — An external interrupt does not acknowledge the interrupt 
> controller and the
>         interrupt remains pending, unless the “acknowledge interrupt 
> on exit”
>         VM-exit control is 1. In such a case, the interrupt controller 
> is acknowledged
>         and the interrupt is no longer pending.


Everywhere it says state is _not_ updated, so I think what is meant is 
that NMIs are blocked, but only _until_ the VM exit completes.

I think you were right the first time around.  Can you check with your 
architecture team?

-- 
Do not meddle in the internals of kernels, for they are subtle and quick to panic.


  reply	other threads:[~2010-04-17 18:13 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 34+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-04-14  9:06 [PATCH V3] perf & kvm: Enhance perf to collect KVM guest os statistics from host side Zhang, Yanmin
2030-04-14  9:05 ` Zhang, Yanmin
2010-04-14  9:20 ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-14  9:43   ` Sheng Yang
2010-04-14  9:57     ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-14 10:14       ` Sheng Yang
2010-04-14 10:19         ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-14 10:27           ` Sheng Yang
2010-04-14 10:33             ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-14 10:36               ` Sheng Yang
2010-04-14 10:43   ` Ingo Molnar
2010-04-14 11:17     ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-15  1:05   ` Zhang, Yanmin
2030-04-15  1:04     ` Zhang, Yanmin
2010-04-15  8:05     ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-15  8:58       ` Zhang, Yanmin
2030-04-15  8:57         ` Zhang, Yanmin
2010-04-15  9:04         ` oerg Roedel
2010-04-15  9:09           ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-15  9:44             ` oerg Roedel
2010-04-15  9:48               ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-15 10:40                 ` Joerg Roedel
2010-04-15 10:44                   ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-15 14:08                     ` Sheng Yang
2010-04-15 14:08                       ` Sheng Yang
2010-04-17 18:12                       ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2010-04-19  8:25                         ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-20  3:32                           ` Sheng Yang
2010-04-20  9:38                             ` Avi Kivity
2010-04-27 19:03         ` [PATCH] Psychovisually-optimized HZ setting (2.6.33.3) Uwaysi Bin Kareem
2010-04-27 19:51           ` Randy Dunlap
2010-04-27 21:50           ` Valdis.Kletnieks
2010-04-15  8:58       ` [PATCH V3] perf & kvm: Enhance perf to collect KVM guest os statistics from host side Zhang, Yanmin
2010-04-15  1:05   ` Zhang, Yanmin

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