From: Graeme Russ <graeme.russ@gmail.com>
To: Sergei Shtylyov <sshtylyov@mvista.com>
Cc: Robert Hancock <hancockrwd@gmail.com>, linux-ide@vger.kernel.org
Subject: Re: [PATCH] Add hook for custom xfer function in PATA Platform driver
Date: Thu, 13 May 2010 14:00:32 +1000 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BEB7960.40007@gmail.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4BEB166B.5030007@ru.mvista.com>
On 13/05/10 06:58, Sergei Shtylyov wrote:
> Hello.
>
> Robert Hancock wrote:
>> On 05/10/2010 03:51 AM, Sergei Shtylyov wrote:
>>> Hello.
>>>
>>> Graeme Russ wrote:
>>>
>>>> Sergei Shtylyov wrote:
>>>>> Hello.
>>>>>
>>>>> Graeme Russ wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> [Added linux-ide back onto distribution list]
>>>>> Right, I didn't intend to exclude it -- probably didn't press all the
>>>>> keys at once for the reply-to-all function.
>>>>>
>>>>> [...]
>>>>>>> You should have also taught the symmetric ide-platfrom driver the
>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>> trick. However, IDE core's data transfer methods has a different
>>>>>>> prototype.
>>
>> The IDE subsystem is deprecated and in maintenance mode,
>
> I know, I know. :-)
>
>> it shouldn't be growing support for new hardware, which I assume this is.
>
> This is not a new hardware as it's going to use an existing driver.
Correct - it is a direct attachment of a CF card onto an 8-bit data bus
> Also, despite maintenance mode, there was a patch accepted recently
> restoring feature parity between ide-platfrom and pata_platfrom.
>
>>>>>> I did think about the other drivers (OF Platform etc) but I have
>>>>>> no way of testing them.
>>>>> pata_of_platform is not easily extensible in this way. It gets all the
>>>>> information about the device from the device tree -- and you can't
>>>>> encode all your complications there, unless you invent a new OF
>>>>> device.
>
> Besides, Graeme, for what arch is your hardware? If it's PowerPC, you
> should be using pata_of_platform -- but as I said you can't really do it.
>
This is for an embedded x86 solutions (AMD SC520). Note: By embedded I
really do mean embedded, not mini-PC or the like (i.e. no BIOS)
[snip]
>> I think there's a case to be made for doing some refactoring to allow
>> splitting the code related to this hardware into a different file or
>> something. However, creating an entirely different driver when the
>> only thing different from pata_platform is that function seems excessive.
>
I agree - It is a pretty poor driver architecture that requires an entirely
new driver for the sake of <10% change in functionality. I would agree that
if a driver has override hooks for over 50% of its functions and you are
using all of those hooks then perhaps a dedicated driver is the way to go,
but adding a 8-bit versus 16-bit access hook is probably the most trivial
and fundamental hook you could add to a device driver (even more
fundamental than the existing byte stuffing hook IMHO)
> You propose something like pata_of_platform (riding on top of
> pata_platform)? Anyway, I suspect that we have fully programmable bus
> hardware here, which should allow for PIO mode setting, and hence woud
> really need a whole new driver...
Yes, the bus timing is fully programmable - It allows the insertion of an
integer number of 33MHz bus cycles into various stages of the bus access.
I don't really care for changing bus timings wrt PIO mode supported by the
CF card. It is not a really high speed CPU (486 DX4100 equivalent) so
supporting high speed data transfers without DMA is a bit pointless. The
only timing switch I care for is 'Accessing CF / Not Accessing CF' which
has a timing difference of 5 or so bus cycles.
And truthfully, I don't even think I need to mutex the bus - The other
devices can use the bus using the slower timings anyway so it does not
really matter if a context switch occurs during the CF read/write in order
to access another device
Regards,
Graeme
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-05-13 4:00 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 21+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-05-09 5:21 [PATCH] Add hook for custom xfer function in PATA Platform driver Graeme Russ
[not found] ` <4BE6910D.9070504@ru.mvista.com>
2010-05-09 11:29 ` Graeme Russ
2010-05-09 13:36 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2010-05-10 0:10 ` Graeme Russ
2010-05-10 9:51 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2010-05-10 10:03 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2010-05-11 0:25 ` Robert Hancock
2010-05-12 20:58 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2010-05-13 4:00 ` Graeme Russ [this message]
2010-05-13 21:02 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2010-05-14 4:04 ` Graeme Russ
2010-05-26 14:05 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2010-06-09 12:36 ` Graeme Russ
2010-05-11 9:55 ` Alan Cox
2010-05-12 20:30 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2010-05-12 23:13 ` Alan Cox
2010-05-13 4:09 ` Graeme Russ
2010-05-13 21:22 ` Sergei Shtylyov
2010-05-13 22:30 ` Alan Cox
2010-05-14 4:37 ` Graeme Russ
2010-05-26 14:26 ` Sergei Shtylyov
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