All of lore.kernel.org
 help / color / mirror / Atom feed
From: Haicheng Li <haicheng.li@linux.intel.com>
To: paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Cc: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
	Hidetoshi Seto <seto.hidetoshi@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
	Yinghai Lu <yinghai@kernel.org>, Thomas Renninger <trenn@suse.de>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
	Venkatesh Pallipadi <venkatesh.pallipadi@intel.com>,
	Alex Chiang <achiang@hp.com>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@suse.de>,
	Stephen Rothwell <sfr@canb.auug.org.au>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Shaohua Li <shaohua.li@intel.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hugh.dickins@tiscali.co.uk>,
	James Bottomley <James.Botto>
Subject: Re: [RFC,5/7] NUMA hotplug emulator
Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 10:42:17 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BF0AD09.80404@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100516174502.GI2418@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Fri, May 07, 2010 at 04:11:42PM +0200, Pavel Machek wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>>> hotplug emulator: Abstract cpu register functions
>>>
>>> Abstract function arch_register_cpu and register_cpu, move the implementation
>>> details to a sub function with prefix "__". 
>>>
>>> each of the sub function has an extra parameter nid, it can be used to register
>>> CPU under a fake NUMA node, it is a reserved interface for cpu hotplug emulation
>>> (CPU PROBE/RELEASE) in x86.
>> I don't get it. CPU hotplug can already be tested using echo 0/1 >
>> online, and that works on 386. How is this different?

"echo 0/1 > online" is logical cpu online/offline.
The emulator intends to emulate physical add/remove of cpus.
They cover different code path.

You can get details of the terms via $KERN_SRC/Documentation/cpu-hotplug.txt.

>> It seems to add some numa magic. Why is it important?

In real world, numa affinity info of the cpus is required for physical cpu hotadd/remove
, which finally affects related data structures and code path. Emulator need the ability
to emulate it.

> My guess is that he wants to test the software surrounding NUMA on a
> non-NUMA (or different-NUMA) machine, perhaps in order to shake out bugs
> before the corresponding hardware is available.

This is one of the purposes. Auto tests and debugging all can get benefits from such emulation.


-haicheng

--
To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in
the body to majordomo@kvack.org.  For more info on Linux MM,
see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ .
Don't email: <a href=mailto:"dont@kvack.org"> email@kvack.org </a>

WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Haicheng Li <haicheng.li@linux.intel.com>
To: paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com
Cc: Pavel Machek <pavel@ucw.cz>,
	akpm@linux-foundation.org, linux-mm@kvack.org,
	Thomas Gleixner <tglx@linutronix.de>,
	Ingo Molnar <mingo@redhat.com>, "H. Peter Anvin" <hpa@zytor.com>,
	x86@kernel.org, Andi Kleen <ak@linux.intel.com>,
	Hidetoshi Seto <seto.hidetoshi@jp.fujitsu.com>,
	Len Brown <len.brown@intel.com>,
	"Rafael J. Wysocki" <rjw@sisk.pl>,
	Yinghai Lu <yinghai@kernel.org>, Thomas Renninger <trenn@suse.de>,
	David Rientjes <rientjes@google.com>, Mel Gorman <mel@csn.ul.ie>,
	Venkatesh Pallipadi <venkatesh.pallipadi@intel.com>,
	Alex Chiang <achiang@hp.com>, Tejun Heo <tj@kernel.org>,
	Christoph Lameter <cl@linux-foundation.org>,
	Greg Kroah-Hartman <gregkh@suse.de>,
	Stephen Rothwell <sfr@canb.auug.org.au>,
	Benjamin Herrenschmidt <benh@kernel.crashing.org>,
	Shaohua Li <shaohua.li@intel.com>,
	Hugh Dickins <hugh.dickins@tiscali.co.uk>,
	James Bottomley <James.Bottomley@HansenPartnership.com>,
	linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-pm@lists.linux-foundation.org, linux-acpi@vger.kernel.org,
	fengguang.wu@intel.com, shaohui.zheng@linux.intel.com
Subject: Re: [RFC,5/7] NUMA hotplug emulator
Date: Mon, 17 May 2010 10:42:17 +0800	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BF0AD09.80404@linux.intel.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100516174502.GI2418@linux.vnet.ibm.com>

Paul E. McKenney wrote:
> On Fri, May 07, 2010 at 04:11:42PM +0200, Pavel Machek wrote:
>> Hi!
>>
>>> hotplug emulator: Abstract cpu register functions
>>>
>>> Abstract function arch_register_cpu and register_cpu, move the implementation
>>> details to a sub function with prefix "__". 
>>>
>>> each of the sub function has an extra parameter nid, it can be used to register
>>> CPU under a fake NUMA node, it is a reserved interface for cpu hotplug emulation
>>> (CPU PROBE/RELEASE) in x86.
>> I don't get it. CPU hotplug can already be tested using echo 0/1 >
>> online, and that works on 386. How is this different?

"echo 0/1 > online" is logical cpu online/offline.
The emulator intends to emulate physical add/remove of cpus.
They cover different code path.

You can get details of the terms via $KERN_SRC/Documentation/cpu-hotplug.txt.

>> It seems to add some numa magic. Why is it important?

In real world, numa affinity info of the cpus is required for physical cpu hotadd/remove
, which finally affects related data structures and code path. Emulator need the ability
to emulate it.

> My guess is that he wants to test the software surrounding NUMA on a
> non-NUMA (or different-NUMA) machine, perhaps in order to shake out bugs
> before the corresponding hardware is available.

This is one of the purposes. Auto tests and debugging all can get benefits from such emulation.


-haicheng

--
To unsubscribe, send a message with 'unsubscribe linux-mm' in
the body to majordomo@kvack.org.  For more info on Linux MM,
see: http://www.linux-mm.org/ .
Don't email: <a href=mailto:"dont@kvack.org"> email@kvack.org </a>

  reply	other threads:[~2010-05-17  2:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 27+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-13 11:56 [RFC,5/7] NUMA hotplug emulator Shaohui Zheng
2010-05-13 11:56 ` Shaohui Zheng
2010-05-07 14:11 ` Pavel Machek
2010-05-16 17:45   ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-05-16 17:45     ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-05-17  2:42     ` Haicheng Li [this message]
2010-05-17  2:42       ` Haicheng Li
2010-05-17  2:42     ` Haicheng Li
2010-05-16 17:45   ` Paul E. McKenney
2010-05-17  3:37   ` Shaohui Zheng
2010-05-17  3:37     ` Shaohui Zheng
2010-05-17  9:39     ` Andi Kleen
2010-05-17  9:39     ` Andi Kleen
2010-05-17  3:37   ` Shaohui Zheng
2010-05-17  9:38   ` Andi Kleen
2010-05-17  9:38   ` Andi Kleen
2010-05-17  9:38     ` Andi Kleen
2010-05-07 14:11 ` Pavel Machek
2010-05-13 12:11 ` Jean Delvare
2010-05-13 12:11   ` Jean Delvare
2010-05-13 12:11 ` Jean Delvare
  -- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-05-13 12:14 Shaohui Zheng
2010-05-14  5:49 ` Paul Mundt
2010-05-14  5:49   ` Paul Mundt
2010-05-18  9:03   ` Shaohui Zheng
2010-05-18  9:03     ` Shaohui Zheng
2010-05-13 11:56 Shaohui Zheng

Reply instructions:

You may reply publicly to this message via plain-text email
using any one of the following methods:

* Save the following mbox file, import it into your mail client,
  and reply-to-all from there: mbox

  Avoid top-posting and favor interleaved quoting:
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Posting_style#Interleaved_style

* Reply using the --to, --cc, and --in-reply-to
  switches of git-send-email(1):

  git send-email \
    --in-reply-to=4BF0AD09.80404@linux.intel.com \
    --to=haicheng.li@linux.intel.com \
    --cc=achiang@hp.com \
    --cc=ak@linux.intel.com \
    --cc=akpm@linux-foundation.org \
    --cc=benh@kernel.crashing.org \
    --cc=cl@linux-foundation.org \
    --cc=gregkh@suse.de \
    --cc=hpa@zytor.com \
    --cc=hugh.dickins@tiscali.co.uk \
    --cc=len.brown@intel.com \
    --cc=linux-mm@kvack.org \
    --cc=mel@csn.ul.ie \
    --cc=mingo@redhat.com \
    --cc=paulmck@linux.vnet.ibm.com \
    --cc=pavel@ucw.cz \
    --cc=rientjes@google.com \
    --cc=rjw@sisk.pl \
    --cc=seto.hidetoshi@jp.fujitsu.com \
    --cc=sfr@canb.auug.org.au \
    --cc=shaohua.li@intel.com \
    --cc=tglx@linutronix.de \
    --cc=tj@kernel.org \
    --cc=trenn@suse.de \
    --cc=venkatesh.pallipadi@intel.com \
    --cc=x86@kernel.org \
    --cc=yinghai@kernel.org \
    /path/to/YOUR_REPLY

  https://kernel.org/pub/software/scm/git/docs/git-send-email.html

* If your mail client supports setting the In-Reply-To header
  via mailto: links, try the mailto: link
Be sure your reply has a Subject: header at the top and a blank line before the message body.
This is an external index of several public inboxes,
see mirroring instructions on how to clone and mirror
all data and code used by this external index.