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From: Anthony Liguori <anthony@codemonkey.ws>
To: Kevin Wolf <kwolf@redhat.com>
Cc: qemu-devel@nongnu.org, Paul Brook <paul@codesourcery.com>,
	Alexander Graf <agraf@suse.de>,
	Aurelien Jarno <aurelien@aurel32.net>,
	hch@lst.de
Subject: Re: [Qemu-devel] Re: [PATCH] Add cache=volatile parameter to -drive
Date: Wed, 26 May 2010 08:42:26 -0500	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4BFD2542.9090003@codemonkey.ws> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <4BFCDF4D.5020703@redhat.com>

On 05/26/2010 03:43 AM, Kevin Wolf wrote:
> Am 26.05.2010 03:31, schrieb Anthony Liguori:
>    
>> On 05/25/2010 04:01 PM, Aurelien Jarno wrote:
>>      
>>> I really think this patch can be useful, in my own case when testing
>>> debian-installer (I already cache=writeback). In short all that is about
>>> developing and testing, as opposed to run a VM in production, can
>>> benefit about that. This was one of the original use case of QEMU before
>>> KVM arrived.
>>>
>>> Unless someone can convince me not to do it, I seriously considering
>>> applying this patch.
>>>
>>>        
>> There really needs to be an indication in the --help output of what the
>> ramifications of this option are, in the very least.  It should also be
>> removable via a ./configure option because no sane distribution should
>> enable this for end users.
>>      
> We know better what you stupid user want?

What percentage of qemu users do you think have actually read qemu-doc.texi?

It's not a stretch for someone to have heard that cache options can 
improve performance, and then see cache=volatile in the help output, try 
it, and then start using it because they observe a performance improvement.

That's not being stupid.  I think it's a reasonable expectation for a 
user to have that their data is safe.

Regards,

Anthony Liguori

>   There are valid use cases for
> this cache option, most notably installation.
>
> I could agree with requesting that the option should be called
> cache=unsafe (or even Alex' cache=destroys_your_image), but that should
> really be enough to tell everyone that his data is not safe with this
> option.
>
> Kevin
>    

  reply	other threads:[~2010-05-26 13:42 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 39+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-05-17 10:14 [Qemu-devel] [PATCH] Add cache=volatile parameter to -drive Alexander Graf
2010-05-17 10:42 ` [Qemu-devel] " Kevin Wolf
2010-05-17 12:58 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-17 13:02   ` Alexander Graf
2010-05-17 13:09     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-17 13:17       ` Alexander Graf
2010-05-17 13:26         ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-17 14:04           ` Alexander Graf
2010-05-17 14:22             ` Alexander Graf
2010-05-17 15:16             ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-17 16:23               ` Paul Brook
2010-05-17 16:26                 ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-17 16:28                   ` Alexander Graf
2010-05-17 20:07                     ` Jamie Lokier
2010-05-18  7:42                       ` Kevin Wolf
2010-05-25 17:59                   ` Alexander Graf
2010-05-25 18:48                     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-25 19:01                       ` Alexander Graf
2010-05-26 13:09                       ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-25 21:01                     ` Aurelien Jarno
2010-05-26  1:31                       ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-26  8:43                         ` Kevin Wolf
2010-05-26 13:42                           ` Anthony Liguori [this message]
2010-05-26 14:03                             ` Kevin Wolf
2010-05-26 14:08                               ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-26 14:26                                 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-05-26 14:13                               ` Aurelien Jarno
2010-05-26  8:52                         ` Aurelien Jarno
2010-05-26  9:16                           ` Kevin Wolf
2010-05-26 13:48                           ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-26 14:12                             ` Aurelien Jarno
2010-05-26 14:19                               ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-26 15:40                                 ` Aurelien Jarno
2010-05-26 16:11                                   ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-26 14:27                             ` Paolo Bonzini
2010-05-26 13:06   ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-26 13:50     ` Anthony Liguori
2010-05-26 15:13       ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-17 15:11 ` Anthony Liguori

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