* Problem with b43
@ 2010-05-31 21:45 Fabrizio Regalli
2010-06-01 2:17 ` William Bourque
0 siblings, 1 reply; 29+ messages in thread
From: Fabrizio Regalli @ 2010-05-31 21:45 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: b43-dev
Hello,
I have a problem with b43 driver.
Here's some information of my system (debian sid)
# dmesg |grep b43
[ 2.046367] b43-pci-bridge 0000:04:05.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 17 (level, low)
-> IRQ 17
[ 7.860803] b43-phy0: Broadcom 4318 WLAN found (core revision 9)
[ 8.039770] Registered led device: b43-phy0::tx
[ 8.039784] Registered led device: b43-phy0::rx
[ 8.039797] Registered led device: b43-phy0::assoc
[ 8.039810] Registered led device: b43-phy0::radio
[ 10.672291] b43 ssb0:0: firmware: requesting b43/ucode5.fw
[ 10.710304] b43 ssb0:0: firmware: requesting b43/pcm5.fw
[ 10.713597] b43 ssb0:0: firmware: requesting b43/b0g0initvals5.fw
[ 10.730028] b43 ssb0:0: firmware: requesting b43/b0g0bsinitvals5.fw
[ 10.852266] b43-phy0: Loading firmware version 478.104 (2008-07-01
00:50:23)
# uname -a
Linux debiancasa 2.6.34 #1 SMP PREEMPT Mon May 24 22:41:39 CEST 2010 i686
GNU/Linux
# lspci -vvn|grep 43 -A7
04:05.0 0280: 14e4:4318 (rev 02)
Subsystem: 1043:100f
Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV- VGASnoop- ParErr-
Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- DisINTx-
Status: Cap- 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=fast >TAbort- <TAbort-
<MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
Latency: 64
Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 17
Region 0: Memory@f79f6000 (32-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=8K]
Kernel driver in use: b43-pci-bridge
04:0a.0 0c00: 104c:8023 (prog-if 10 [OHCI])
Subsystem: 1028:0215
Control: I/O- Mem+ BusMaster+ SpecCycle- MemWINV+ VGASnoop- ParErr-
Stepping- SERR+ FastB2B- DisINTx-
Status: Cap+ 66MHz- UDF- FastB2B- ParErr- DEVSEL=medium >TAbort-
<TAbort- <MAbort- >SERR- <PERR- INTx-
Latency: 64 (500ns min, 1000ns max), Cache Line Size: 64 bytes
Interrupt: pin A routed to IRQ 18
# lsmod |grep b43
b43 97693 0
mac80211 110180 1 b43
cfg80211 95149 2 b43,mac80211
led_class 1575 1 b43
When I bring up the interface (ifup wlan0)
[12246.900516] b43-phy0: Loading firmware version 478.104 (2008-07-01
00:50:23)
[12246.988328] ADDRCONF(NETDEV_UP): wlan0: link is not ready
[12416.648176] wlan0: authenticate with 00:18:4d:2e:85:4a (try 1)
[12416.848040] wlan0: authenticate with 00:18:4d:2e:85:4a (try 2)
[12417.048048] wlan0: authenticate with 00:18:4d:2e:85:4a (try 3)
[12417.248026] wlan0: authentication with 00:18:4d:2e:85:4a timed out
[12463.932235] wlan0: direct probe to 00:18:4d:2e:85:4a (try 1)
[12464.132034] wlan0: direct probe to 00:18:4d:2e:85:4a (try 2)
[12464.332034] wlan0: direct probe to 00:18:4d:2e:85:4a (try 3)
[12464.532023] wlan0: direct probe to 00:18:4d:2e:85:4a timed out
[12517.684235] wlan0: direct probe to 00:18:4d:2e:85:4a (try 1)
[12517.884034] wlan0: direct probe to 00:18:4d:2e:85:4a (try 2)
[12518.084530] wlan0: direct probe to 00:18:4d:2e:85:4a (try 3)
[12518.284034] wlan0: direct probe to 00:18:4d:2e:85:4a timed out
..and I can't connect to my access point..
My /etc/network/interfaces:
....
# wireless
auto wlan0
iface wlan0 inet static
#wireless-mode managed
wpa-driver wext
wpa-conf /etc/wpa_supplicant/wpa_supplicant.conf
# static ip settings
address 192.168.0.100
netmask 255.255.255.0
#network 192.168.0.0
#broadcast 192.168.0.255
gateway 192.168.0.1
Could someone plese give me a suggest ?
Thanks a lot.
Fabrizio
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2010-05-31 21:45 Problem with b43 Fabrizio Regalli
@ 2010-06-01 2:17 ` William Bourque
2010-06-01 8:39 ` Martino Salvetti
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From: William Bourque @ 2010-06-01 2:17 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: b43-dev
Just saying, I have a similar problem... I tried to post twice about it
on the list since 2 weeks but the mails keep getting moderated (and
never unmoderated) because of "suspicious content".
- William
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* Problem with b43
2010-06-01 2:17 ` William Bourque
@ 2010-06-01 8:39 ` Martino Salvetti
2010-06-20 12:04 ` Fabrizio Regalli
0 siblings, 1 reply; 29+ messages in thread
From: Martino Salvetti @ 2010-06-01 8:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: b43-dev
Also me... I sent a message about this problem but it was blocked.
I have this problem olny with multi-AP networks, in dmesg I can see that it
continue to changes the AP until they ends to responds. (At my home, with a
digicom ADSL router, the wifi works)
Martino
2010/6/1 William Bourque <william.bourque@polymtl.ca>
>
> Just saying, I have a similar problem... I tried to post twice about it
> on the list since 2 weeks but the mails keep getting moderated (and
> never unmoderated) because of "suspicious content".
>
> - William
>
> _______________________________________________
> b43-dev mailing list
> b43-dev at lists.infradead.org
> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/b43-dev
>
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Remember: with great power comes great current squared times resistance.
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* Problem with b43
2010-06-01 8:39 ` Martino Salvetti
@ 2010-06-20 12:04 ` Fabrizio Regalli
2010-06-20 18:12 ` Gábor Stefanik
0 siblings, 1 reply; 29+ messages in thread
From: Fabrizio Regalli @ 2010-06-20 12:04 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: b43-dev
I'm trying with an oldest firmware revision but unfortunately, nothing
changed.
debiancasa:/home/rizla# dmesg |grep b43
[ 2.054445] b43-pci-bridge 0000:04:05.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 17 (level, low)
-> IRQ 17
[ 8.338798] b43-phy0: Broadcom 4318 WLAN found (core revision 9)
[ 8.380033] b43-phy0 debug: Found PHY: Analog 3, Type 2, Revision 7
[ 8.380054] b43-phy0 debug: Found Radio: Manuf 0x17F, Version 0x2050,
Revision 8
[ 8.577430] Registered led device: b43-phy0::tx
[ 8.577443] Registered led device: b43-phy0::rx
[ 8.577455] Registered led device: b43-phy0::assoc
[ 8.577470] Registered led device: b43-phy0::radio
[ 10.844287] b43 ssb0:0: firmware: requesting b43/ucode5.fw
[ 10.924217] b43 ssb0:0: firmware: requesting b43/pcm5.fw
[ 10.940552] b43 ssb0:0: firmware: requesting b43/b0g0initvals5.fw
[ 10.966269] b43 ssb0:0: firmware: requesting b43/b0g0bsinitvals5.fw
[ 11.084276] b43-phy0: Loading firmware version 410.2160 (2007-05-26
15:32:10)
[ 11.104055] b43-phy0 debug: Chip initialized
[ 11.104096] b43-phy0 debug: PIO initialized
[ 11.104106] b43-phy0 debug: QoS disabled
[ 11.124366] b43-phy0 debug: Wireless interface started
[ 11.148853] b43-phy0 debug: Adding Interface type 2
[ 660.376274] b43-phy0 debug: Removing Interface type 2
[ 660.376359] b43-phy0 debug: Wireless interface stopped
[ 667.296079] b43-phy0: Loading firmware version 410.2160 (2007-05-26
15:32:10)
[ 667.312082] b43-phy0 debug: Chip initialized
[ 667.312122] b43-phy0 debug: PIO initialized
[ 667.312132] b43-phy0 debug: QoS disabled
[ 667.333144] b43-phy0 debug: Wireless interface started
[ 667.356357] b43-phy0 debug: Adding Interface type 2
[ 667.472274] b43-phy0 debug: Removing Interface type 2
[ 667.472356] b43-phy0 debug: Wireless interface stopped
[ 669.584280] b43-phy0: Loading firmware version 410.2160 (2007-05-26
15:32:10)
[ 669.600093] b43-phy0 debug: Chip initialized
[ 669.600134] b43-phy0 debug: PIO initialized
[ 669.600143] b43-phy0 debug: QoS disabled
[ 669.620645] b43-phy0 debug: Wireless interface started
[ 669.644096] b43-phy0 debug: Adding Interface type 2
and in /var/log/messages a lot of this messages:
[ 1022.268919] wlan0: RX AssocResp from 00:18:4d:2e:85:4a (capab=0x431
status=0 aid=1)
[ 1022.268923] wlan0: associated
[ 1022.269690] wlan0: deauthenticating from 00:18:4d:2e:85:4a by local
choice (reason=3)
[ 1022.269826] cfg80211: Calling CRDA to update world regulatory domain
[ 1023.600719] wlan0: authenticate with 00:18:4d:2e:85:4a (try 1)
[ 1023.664562] wlan0: authenticated
[ 1023.664687] wlan0: associate with 00:18:4d:2e:85:4a (try 1)
[ 1023.864521] wlan0: associate with 00:18:4d:2e:85:4a (try 2)
[ 1024.064534] wlan0: associate with 00:18:4d:2e:85:4a (try 3)
[ 1024.264024] wlan0: association with 00:18:4d:2e:85:4a timed out
[ 1034.841535] wlan0: authenticate with 00:18:4d:2e:85:4a (try 1)
[ 1035.040024] wlan0: authenticate with 00:18:4d:2e:85:4a (try 2)
[ 1035.240023] wlan0: authenticate with 00:18:4d:2e:85:4a (try 3)
[ 1035.440035] wlan0: authentication with 00:18:4d:2e:85:4a timed out
2010/6/1 Martino Salvetti <the9ull@silix.org>
> Also me... I sent a message about this problem but it was blocked.
>
> I have this problem olny with multi-AP networks, in dmesg I can see that it
> continue to changes the AP until they ends to responds. (At my home, with a
> digicom ADSL router, the wifi works)
>
> Martino
>
> 2010/6/1 William Bourque <william.bourque@polymtl.ca>
>
>
>> Just saying, I have a similar problem... I tried to post twice about it
>> on the list since 2 weeks but the mails keep getting moderated (and
>> never unmoderated) because of "suspicious content".
>>
>> - William
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> b43-dev mailing list
>> b43-dev at lists.infradead.org
>> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/b43-dev
>>
>
>
>
> --
> Remember: with great power comes great current squared times resistance.
>
> _______________________________________________
> b43-dev mailing list
> b43-dev at lists.infradead.org
> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/b43-dev
>
>
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* Problem with b43
2010-06-20 12:04 ` Fabrizio Regalli
@ 2010-06-20 18:12 ` Gábor Stefanik
[not found] ` <AANLkTimpDoxIjIBVOPug5uLADaV5oX6RX8se9VC1x6Pd@mail.gmail.com>
0 siblings, 1 reply; 29+ messages in thread
From: Gábor Stefanik @ 2010-06-20 18:12 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: b43-dev
On Sun, Jun 20, 2010 at 2:04 PM, Fabrizio Regalli <fabreg@gmail.com> wrote:
> I'm trying with an oldest firmware revision but unfortunately, nothing
> changed.
>
> debiancasa:/home/rizla# dmesg |grep b43
> [??? 2.054445] b43-pci-bridge 0000:04:05.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 17 (level, low)
> -> IRQ 17
> [??? 8.338798] b43-phy0: Broadcom 4318 WLAN found (core revision 9)
> [??? 8.380033] b43-phy0 debug: Found PHY: Analog 3, Type 2, Revision 7
> [??? 8.380054] b43-phy0 debug: Found Radio: Manuf 0x17F, Version 0x2050,
> Revision 8
> [??? 8.577430] Registered led device: b43-phy0::tx
> [??? 8.577443] Registered led device: b43-phy0::rx
> [??? 8.577455] Registered led device: b43-phy0::assoc
> [??? 8.577470] Registered led device: b43-phy0::radio
> [?? 10.844287] b43 ssb0:0: firmware: requesting b43/ucode5.fw
> [?? 10.924217] b43 ssb0:0: firmware: requesting b43/pcm5.fw
> [?? 10.940552] b43 ssb0:0: firmware: requesting b43/b0g0initvals5.fw
> [?? 10.966269] b43 ssb0:0: firmware: requesting b43/b0g0bsinitvals5.fw
> [?? 11.084276] b43-phy0: Loading firmware version 410.2160 (2007-05-26
> 15:32:10)
> [?? 11.104055] b43-phy0 debug: Chip initialized
> [?? 11.104096] b43-phy0 debug: PIO initialized
Why are you using PIO for a BCM4318? AFAIK the DMA bug only affects BCM4312.
> [?? 11.104106] b43-phy0 debug: QoS disabled
> [?? 11.124366] b43-phy0 debug: Wireless interface started
> [?? 11.148853] b43-phy0 debug: Adding Interface type 2
> [? 660.376274] b43-phy0 debug: Removing Interface type 2
> [? 660.376359] b43-phy0 debug: Wireless interface stopped
> [? 667.296079] b43-phy0: Loading firmware version 410.2160 (2007-05-26
> 15:32:10)
> [? 667.312082] b43-phy0 debug: Chip initialized
> [? 667.312122] b43-phy0 debug: PIO initialized
> [? 667.312132] b43-phy0 debug: QoS disabled
> [? 667.333144] b43-phy0 debug: Wireless interface started
> [? 667.356357] b43-phy0 debug: Adding Interface type 2
> [? 667.472274] b43-phy0 debug: Removing Interface type 2
> [? 667.472356] b43-phy0 debug: Wireless interface stopped
> [? 669.584280] b43-phy0: Loading firmware version 410.2160 (2007-05-26
> 15:32:10)
> [? 669.600093] b43-phy0 debug: Chip initialized
> [? 669.600134] b43-phy0 debug: PIO initialized
> [? 669.600143] b43-phy0 debug: QoS disabled
> [? 669.620645] b43-phy0 debug: Wireless interface started
> [? 669.644096] b43-phy0 debug: Adding Interface type 2
>
> and in /var/log/messages a lot of this messages:
>
> [ 1022.268919] wlan0: RX AssocResp from 00:18:4d:2e:85:4a (capab=0x431
> status=0 aid=1)
> [ 1022.268923] wlan0: associated
> [ 1022.269690] wlan0: deauthenticating from 00:18:4d:2e:85:4a by local
> choice (reason=3)
> [ 1022.269826] cfg80211: Calling CRDA to update world regulatory domain
> [ 1023.600719] wlan0: authenticate with 00:18:4d:2e:85:4a (try 1)
> [ 1023.664562] wlan0: authenticated
> [ 1023.664687] wlan0: associate with 00:18:4d:2e:85:4a (try 1)
> [ 1023.864521] wlan0: associate with 00:18:4d:2e:85:4a (try 2)
> [ 1024.064534] wlan0: associate with 00:18:4d:2e:85:4a (try 3)
> [ 1024.264024] wlan0: association with 00:18:4d:2e:85:4a timed out
> [ 1034.841535] wlan0: authenticate with 00:18:4d:2e:85:4a (try 1)
> [ 1035.040024] wlan0: authenticate with 00:18:4d:2e:85:4a (try 2)
> [ 1035.240023] wlan0: authenticate with 00:18:4d:2e:85:4a (try 3)
> [ 1035.440035] wlan0: authentication with 00:18:4d:2e:85:4a timed out
>
>
>
>
>
> 2010/6/1 Martino Salvetti <the9ull@silix.org>
>>
>> Also me... I sent a message about this problem but it was blocked.
>> I have this problem olny with multi-AP networks, in dmesg I can see that
>> it continue to changes the AP until they ends to responds. (At my home, with
>> a digicom ADSL router, the wifi works)
>> Martino
>>
>> 2010/6/1 William Bourque <william.bourque@polymtl.ca>
>>>
>>> Just saying, I have a similar problem... I tried to post twice about it
>>> on the list since 2 weeks but the mails keep getting moderated (and
>>> never unmoderated) because of "suspicious content".
>>>
>>> - William
>>>
>>> _______________________________________________
>>> b43-dev mailing list
>>> b43-dev at lists.infradead.org
>>> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/b43-dev
>>
>>
>>
>> --
>> Remember: with great power comes great current squared times resistance.
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> b43-dev mailing list
>> b43-dev at lists.infradead.org
>> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/b43-dev
>>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> b43-dev mailing list
> b43-dev at lists.infradead.org
> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/b43-dev
>
>
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* problem with b43
@ 2010-09-24 16:55 Cyrille
2010-09-24 17:06 ` Gábor Stefanik
2010-09-24 17:10 ` Rafał Miłecki
0 siblings, 2 replies; 29+ messages in thread
From: Cyrille @ 2010-09-24 16:55 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: b43-dev
Hi
I've got a problem with a broadcom 4312 [12e4:4315].
The environment :
===========================
uname -a
2.6.35.5-libre.29.fc14.x86_64
lspci -vnn
0b:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g [14e4:4315] (rev 01)
Subsystem: Dell Wireless 1395 WLAN Mini-Card [1028:000b]
Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 17
Memory at fe7fc000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 3
Capabilities: [58] Vendor Specific Information: Len=78 <?>
Capabilities: [e8] MSI: Enable- Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+
Capabilities: [d0] Express Endpoint, MSI 00
Capabilities: [100] Advanced Error Reporting
Capabilities: [13c] Virtual Channel
Capabilities: [160] Device Serial Number 7f-78-4e-ff-ff-6d-00-23
Capabilities: [16c] Power Budgeting <?>
Kernel driver in use: b43-pci-bridge
Kernel modules: ssb
===============================
Installation method ( http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#fw-b43-lp ) :
You are using the b43 driver from linux-2.6.25 or newer
export FIRMWARE_INSTALL_DIR="/lib/firmware"
wget http://mirror2.openwrt.org/sources/broadcom-wl-4.150.10.5.tar.bz2
tar xjf broadcom-wl-4.150.10.5.tar.bz2
cd broadcom-wl-4.150.10.5/driver
sudo ../../b43-fwcutter-013/b43-fwcutter -w "$FIRMWARE_INSTALL_DIR" wl_apsta_mimo.o
Seems work : ls /lib/firmware/b43-open/
a0g0bsinitvals5.fw a0g1bsinitvals9.fw b0g0bsinitvals9.fw lp0bsinitvals15.fw n0initvals11.fw ucode5.fw
a0g0bsinitvals9.fw a0g1initvals13.fw b0g0initvals13.fw lp0initvals13.fw pcm5.fw ucode9.fw
a0g0initvals5.fw a0g1initvals5.fw b0g0initvals5.fw lp0initvals14.fw ucode11.fw
a0g0initvals9.fw a0g1initvals9.fw b0g0initvals9.fw lp0initvals15.fw ucode13.fw
a0g1bsinitvals13.fw b0g0bsinitvals13.fw lp0bsinitvals13.fw n0absinitvals11.fw ucode14.fw
a0g1bsinitvals5.fw b0g0bsinitvals5.fw lp0bsinitvals14.fw n0bsinitvals11.fw ucode15.fw
But :
dmesg
b43-phy3 ERROR: You must go to http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#devicefirmware and download the correct firmware for this driver version. Please carefully read all instructions on this website.
b43-phy4: Broadcom 4312 WLAN found (core revision 15)
b43-phy4 debug: Found PHY: Analog 6, Type 5, Revision 1
b43-phy4 debug: Found Radio: Manuf 0x17F, Version 0x2062, Revision 2
phy4: Selected rate control algorithm 'minstrel'
Registered led device: b43-phy4::tx
Registered led device: b43-phy4::rx
Registered led device: b43-phy4::radio
Broadcom 43xx driver loaded [ Features: PMLS, Firmware-ID: FW13 ]
ssb0:0: Missing Free firmware
b43-phy4 ERROR: Rejected non-Free firmware
ssb0:0: Missing Free firmware
b43-phy4 ERROR: Rejected non-Free firmware
So don't work.
Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
I thought nevertheless that with this kernel that was going to work.
No idea, I thing is due of the model [12e4:4315]. Is there anyone who can say to me if it possible to install and configure this card with a free-kernel.
Thanx !
Cyrille
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* problem with b43
2010-09-24 16:55 problem " Cyrille
@ 2010-09-24 17:06 ` Gábor Stefanik
2010-09-24 17:10 ` Rafał Miłecki
1 sibling, 0 replies; 29+ messages in thread
From: Gábor Stefanik @ 2010-09-24 17:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Cyrille; +Cc: b43-dev, John Linville, linux-wireless
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 6:55 PM, Cyrille <cyrille@cbiot.fr> wrote:
> Hi
> I've got a problem with a broadcom 4312 [12e4:4315].
> The environment :
> ===========================
> uname -a
> 2.6.35.5-libre.29.fc14.x86_64
>
> lspci -vnn
> 0b:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g [14e4:4315] (rev 01)
> ? ? ? ?Subsystem: Dell Wireless 1395 WLAN Mini-Card [1028:000b]
> ? ? ? ?Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 17
> ? ? ? ?Memory at fe7fc000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
> ? ? ? ?Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 3
> ? ? ? ?Capabilities: [58] Vendor Specific Information: Len=78 <?>
> ? ? ? ?Capabilities: [e8] MSI: Enable- Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+
> ? ? ? ?Capabilities: [d0] Express Endpoint, MSI 00
> ? ? ? ?Capabilities: [100] Advanced Error Reporting
> ? ? ? ?Capabilities: [13c] Virtual Channel
> ? ? ? ?Capabilities: [160] Device Serial Number 7f-78-4e-ff-ff-6d-00-23
> ? ? ? ?Capabilities: [16c] Power Budgeting <?>
> ? ? ? ?Kernel driver in use: b43-pci-bridge
> ? ? ? ?Kernel modules: ssb
> ===============================
>
> Installation method ( http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#fw-b43-lp ) :
> You are using the b43 driver from linux-2.6.25 or newer
> export FIRMWARE_INSTALL_DIR="/lib/firmware"
> wget http://mirror2.openwrt.org/sources/broadcom-wl-4.150.10.5.tar.bz2
> tar xjf broadcom-wl-4.150.10.5.tar.bz2
> cd broadcom-wl-4.150.10.5/driver
> sudo ../../b43-fwcutter-013/b43-fwcutter -w "$FIRMWARE_INSTALL_DIR" wl_apsta_mimo.o
You are using the firmware for G-PHYs. Yo should use v4.174 (also
known as v4.178) for LP-PHY.
>
>
> Seems work : ls /lib/firmware/b43-open/
> a0g0bsinitvals5.fw ? a0g1bsinitvals9.fw ? b0g0bsinitvals9.fw ?lp0bsinitvals15.fw ?n0initvals11.fw ?ucode5.fw
> a0g0bsinitvals9.fw ? a0g1initvals13.fw ? ?b0g0initvals13.fw ? lp0initvals13.fw ? ?pcm5.fw ? ? ? ? ?ucode9.fw
> a0g0initvals5.fw ? ? a0g1initvals5.fw ? ? b0g0initvals5.fw ? ?lp0initvals14.fw ? ?ucode11.fw
> a0g0initvals9.fw ? ? a0g1initvals9.fw ? ? b0g0initvals9.fw ? ?lp0initvals15.fw ? ?ucode13.fw
> a0g1bsinitvals13.fw ?b0g0bsinitvals13.fw ?lp0bsinitvals13.fw ?n0absinitvals11.fw ?ucode14.fw
> a0g1bsinitvals5.fw ? b0g0bsinitvals5.fw ? lp0bsinitvals14.fw ?n0bsinitvals11.fw ? ucode15.fw
Extract to /lib/firmware/b43. /lib/firmware/b43-open is only for OpenFWWF.
>
>
> But :
> dmesg
> b43-phy3 ERROR: You must go to http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#devicefirmware and download the correct firmware for this driver version. Please carefully read all instructions on this website.
> b43-phy4: Broadcom 4312 WLAN found (core revision 15)
> b43-phy4 debug: Found PHY: Analog 6, Type 5, Revision 1
> b43-phy4 debug: Found Radio: Manuf 0x17F, Version 0x2062, Revision 2
> phy4: Selected rate control algorithm 'minstrel'
> Registered led device: b43-phy4::tx
> Registered led device: b43-phy4::rx
> Registered led device: b43-phy4::radio
> Broadcom 43xx driver loaded [ Features: PMLS, Firmware-ID: FW13 ]
> ssb0:0: Missing Free firmware
> b43-phy4 ERROR: Rejected non-Free firmware
> ssb0:0: Missing Free firmware
> b43-phy4 ERROR: Rejected non-Free firmware
Compile compat-wireless to bypass the "free-only" patch in Fedora.
(John, are you still maintaining the Fedora kernel's wireless part? If
so, please kill this "freedom enforcement"!)
>
>
> So don't work.
> Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
> I thought nevertheless that with this kernel that was going to work.
> No idea, I thing is due of the model [12e4:4315]. Is there anyone who can say to me if it possible to install and configure this card with a free-kernel.
>
> Thanx !
>
> Cyrille
>
>
>
> ----
> [ cyrille at cbiot.fr | http://cbiot.fr ]
>
> "Et le combat cessa faute de combattants."
> --- Le Cid (1636), IV, 3, Rodrigue - - - -
>
> BLAG : http://blagblagblag.org
> Blag'em up! http://zenblagger.org
>
>
>
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> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/b43-dev
>
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* Re: problem with b43
@ 2010-09-24 17:06 ` Gábor Stefanik
0 siblings, 0 replies; 29+ messages in thread
From: Gábor Stefanik @ 2010-09-24 17:06 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Cyrille; +Cc: b43-dev, John Linville, linux-wireless
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 6:55 PM, Cyrille <cyrille@cbiot.fr> wrote:
> Hi
> I've got a problem with a broadcom 4312 [12e4:4315].
> The environment :
> ===========================
> uname -a
> 2.6.35.5-libre.29.fc14.x86_64
>
> lspci -vnn
> 0b:00.0 Network controller [0280]: Broadcom Corporation BCM4312 802.11b/g [14e4:4315] (rev 01)
> Subsystem: Dell Wireless 1395 WLAN Mini-Card [1028:000b]
> Flags: bus master, fast devsel, latency 0, IRQ 17
> Memory at fe7fc000 (64-bit, non-prefetchable) [size=16K]
> Capabilities: [40] Power Management version 3
> Capabilities: [58] Vendor Specific Information: Len=78 <?>
> Capabilities: [e8] MSI: Enable- Count=1/1 Maskable- 64bit+
> Capabilities: [d0] Express Endpoint, MSI 00
> Capabilities: [100] Advanced Error Reporting
> Capabilities: [13c] Virtual Channel
> Capabilities: [160] Device Serial Number 7f-78-4e-ff-ff-6d-00-23
> Capabilities: [16c] Power Budgeting <?>
> Kernel driver in use: b43-pci-bridge
> Kernel modules: ssb
> ===============================
>
> Installation method ( http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#fw-b43-lp ) :
> You are using the b43 driver from linux-2.6.25 or newer
> export FIRMWARE_INSTALL_DIR="/lib/firmware"
> wget http://mirror2.openwrt.org/sources/broadcom-wl-4.150.10.5.tar.bz2
> tar xjf broadcom-wl-4.150.10.5.tar.bz2
> cd broadcom-wl-4.150.10.5/driver
> sudo ../../b43-fwcutter-013/b43-fwcutter -w "$FIRMWARE_INSTALL_DIR" wl_apsta_mimo.o
You are using the firmware for G-PHYs. Yo should use v4.174 (also
known as v4.178) for LP-PHY.
>
>
> Seems work : ls /lib/firmware/b43-open/
> a0g0bsinitvals5.fw a0g1bsinitvals9.fw b0g0bsinitvals9.fw lp0bsinitvals15.fw n0initvals11.fw ucode5.fw
> a0g0bsinitvals9.fw a0g1initvals13.fw b0g0initvals13.fw lp0initvals13.fw pcm5.fw ucode9.fw
> a0g0initvals5.fw a0g1initvals5.fw b0g0initvals5.fw lp0initvals14.fw ucode11.fw
> a0g0initvals9.fw a0g1initvals9.fw b0g0initvals9.fw lp0initvals15.fw ucode13.fw
> a0g1bsinitvals13.fw b0g0bsinitvals13.fw lp0bsinitvals13.fw n0absinitvals11.fw ucode14.fw
> a0g1bsinitvals5.fw b0g0bsinitvals5.fw lp0bsinitvals14.fw n0bsinitvals11.fw ucode15.fw
Extract to /lib/firmware/b43. /lib/firmware/b43-open is only for OpenFWWF.
>
>
> But :
> dmesg
> b43-phy3 ERROR: You must go to http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#devicefirmware and download the correct firmware for this driver version. Please carefully read all instructions on this website.
> b43-phy4: Broadcom 4312 WLAN found (core revision 15)
> b43-phy4 debug: Found PHY: Analog 6, Type 5, Revision 1
> b43-phy4 debug: Found Radio: Manuf 0x17F, Version 0x2062, Revision 2
> phy4: Selected rate control algorithm 'minstrel'
> Registered led device: b43-phy4::tx
> Registered led device: b43-phy4::rx
> Registered led device: b43-phy4::radio
> Broadcom 43xx driver loaded [ Features: PMLS, Firmware-ID: FW13 ]
> ssb0:0: Missing Free firmware
> b43-phy4 ERROR: Rejected non-Free firmware
> ssb0:0: Missing Free firmware
> b43-phy4 ERROR: Rejected non-Free firmware
Compile compat-wireless to bypass the "free-only" patch in Fedora.
(John, are you still maintaining the Fedora kernel's wireless part? If
so, please kill this "freedom enforcement"!)
>
>
> So don't work.
> Grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
> I thought nevertheless that with this kernel that was going to work.
> No idea, I thing is due of the model [12e4:4315]. Is there anyone who can say to me if it possible to install and configure this card with a free-kernel.
>
> Thanx !
>
> Cyrille
>
>
>
> ----
> [ cyrille@cbiot.fr | http://cbiot.fr ]
>
> "Et le combat cessa faute de combattants."
> --- Le Cid (1636), IV, 3, Rodrigue - - - -
>
> BLAG : http://blagblagblag.org
> Blag'em up! http://zenblagger.org
>
>
>
> _______________________________________________
> b43-dev mailing list
> b43-dev@lists.infradead.org
> http://lists.infradead.org/mailman/listinfo/b43-dev
>
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* problem with b43
2010-09-24 17:06 ` Gábor Stefanik
@ 2010-09-24 17:21 ` John W. Linville
-1 siblings, 0 replies; 29+ messages in thread
From: John W. Linville @ 2010-09-24 17:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Gábor Stefanik; +Cc: Cyrille, b43-dev, linux-wireless
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 07:06:17PM +0200, G?bor Stefanik wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 6:55 PM, Cyrille <cyrille@cbiot.fr> wrote:
> > Hi
> > I've got a problem with a broadcom 4312 [12e4:4315].
> > The environment :
> > ===========================
> > uname -a
> > 2.6.35.5-libre.29.fc14.x86_64
> > Broadcom 43xx driver loaded [ Features: PMLS, Firmware-ID: FW13 ]
> > ssb0:0: Missing Free firmware
> > b43-phy4 ERROR: Rejected non-Free firmware
> > ssb0:0: Missing Free firmware
> > b43-phy4 ERROR: Rejected non-Free firmware
>
> Compile compat-wireless to bypass the "free-only" patch in Fedora.
>
> (John, are you still maintaining the Fedora kernel's wireless part? If
> so, please kill this "freedom enforcement"!)
This isn't a Fedora kernel. I'm guessing it is from "Free-dora"
by way of BLAG, and I have no control over it -- sorry.
Cyrille, did you try b43-openfwwf? If that doesn't work, then you
will need to use extracted proprietary firmware with some other kernel
(e.g. stock Fedora) or you will have to live without b43.
John
--
John W. Linville Someday the world will need a hero, and you
linville at tuxdriver.com might be all we have. Be ready.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 29+ messages in thread
* Re: problem with b43
@ 2010-09-24 17:21 ` John W. Linville
0 siblings, 0 replies; 29+ messages in thread
From: John W. Linville @ 2010-09-24 17:21 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Gábor Stefanik; +Cc: Cyrille, b43-dev, linux-wireless
On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 07:06:17PM +0200, Gábor Stefanik wrote:
> On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 6:55 PM, Cyrille <cyrille@cbiot.fr> wrote:
> > Hi
> > I've got a problem with a broadcom 4312 [12e4:4315].
> > The environment :
> > ===========================
> > uname -a
> > 2.6.35.5-libre.29.fc14.x86_64
> > Broadcom 43xx driver loaded [ Features: PMLS, Firmware-ID: FW13 ]
> > ssb0:0: Missing Free firmware
> > b43-phy4 ERROR: Rejected non-Free firmware
> > ssb0:0: Missing Free firmware
> > b43-phy4 ERROR: Rejected non-Free firmware
>
> Compile compat-wireless to bypass the "free-only" patch in Fedora.
>
> (John, are you still maintaining the Fedora kernel's wireless part? If
> so, please kill this "freedom enforcement"!)
This isn't a Fedora kernel. I'm guessing it is from "Free-dora"
by way of BLAG, and I have no control over it -- sorry.
Cyrille, did you try b43-openfwwf? If that doesn't work, then you
will need to use extracted proprietary firmware with some other kernel
(e.g. stock Fedora) or you will have to live without b43.
John
--
John W. Linville Someday the world will need a hero, and you
linville@tuxdriver.com might be all we have. Be ready.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 29+ messages in thread
* problem with b43
2010-09-24 17:21 ` John W. Linville
@ 2010-09-24 17:30 ` Gábor Stefanik
-1 siblings, 0 replies; 29+ messages in thread
From: Gábor Stefanik @ 2010-09-24 17:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: John W. Linville; +Cc: Cyrille, b43-dev, linux-wireless
2010/9/24 John W. Linville <linville@tuxdriver.com>:
> On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 07:06:17PM +0200, G?bor Stefanik wrote:
>> On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 6:55 PM, Cyrille <cyrille@cbiot.fr> wrote:
>> > Hi
>> > I've got a problem with a broadcom 4312 [12e4:4315].
>> > The environment :
>> > ===========================
>> > uname -a
>> > 2.6.35.5-libre.29.fc14.x86_64
>
>> > Broadcom 43xx driver loaded [ Features: PMLS, Firmware-ID: FW13 ]
>> > ssb0:0: Missing Free firmware
>> > b43-phy4 ERROR: Rejected non-Free firmware
>> > ssb0:0: Missing Free firmware
>> > b43-phy4 ERROR: Rejected non-Free firmware
>>
>> Compile compat-wireless to bypass the "free-only" patch in Fedora.
>>
>> (John, are you still maintaining the Fedora kernel's wireless part? If
>> so, please kill this "freedom enforcement"!)
>
> This isn't a Fedora kernel. ?I'm guessing it is from "Free-dora"
> by way of BLAG, and I have no control over it -- sorry.
>
> Cyrille, did you try b43-openfwwf? ?If that doesn't work, then you
> will need to use extracted proprietary firmware with some other kernel
> (e.g. stock Fedora) or you will have to live without b43.
OpenFWWF definitely won't work with LP-PHYs. We don't even know enough
about LP-PHY to fix the DMA error, let alone to write our own
firmware...
>
> John
> --
> John W. Linville ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?Someday the world will need a hero, and you
> linville at tuxdriver.com ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ? ?might be all we have. ?Be ready.
>
--
Vista: [V]iruses, [I]ntruders, [S]pyware, [T]rojans and [A]dware. :-)
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 29+ messages in thread
* Re: problem with b43
@ 2010-09-24 17:30 ` Gábor Stefanik
0 siblings, 0 replies; 29+ messages in thread
From: Gábor Stefanik @ 2010-09-24 17:30 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: John W. Linville; +Cc: Cyrille, b43-dev, linux-wireless
2010/9/24 John W. Linville <linville@tuxdriver.com>:
> On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 07:06:17PM +0200, Gábor Stefanik wrote:
>> On Fri, Sep 24, 2010 at 6:55 PM, Cyrille <cyrille@cbiot.fr> wrote:
>> > Hi
>> > I've got a problem with a broadcom 4312 [12e4:4315].
>> > The environment :
>> > ===========================
>> > uname -a
>> > 2.6.35.5-libre.29.fc14.x86_64
>
>> > Broadcom 43xx driver loaded [ Features: PMLS, Firmware-ID: FW13 ]
>> > ssb0:0: Missing Free firmware
>> > b43-phy4 ERROR: Rejected non-Free firmware
>> > ssb0:0: Missing Free firmware
>> > b43-phy4 ERROR: Rejected non-Free firmware
>>
>> Compile compat-wireless to bypass the "free-only" patch in Fedora.
>>
>> (John, are you still maintaining the Fedora kernel's wireless part? If
>> so, please kill this "freedom enforcement"!)
>
> This isn't a Fedora kernel. I'm guessing it is from "Free-dora"
> by way of BLAG, and I have no control over it -- sorry.
>
> Cyrille, did you try b43-openfwwf? If that doesn't work, then you
> will need to use extracted proprietary firmware with some other kernel
> (e.g. stock Fedora) or you will have to live without b43.
OpenFWWF definitely won't work with LP-PHYs. We don't even know enough
about LP-PHY to fix the DMA error, let alone to write our own
firmware...
>
> John
> --
> John W. Linville Someday the world will need a hero, and you
> linville@tuxdriver.com might be all we have. Be ready.
>
--
Vista: [V]iruses, [I]ntruders, [S]pyware, [T]rojans and [A]dware. :-)
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 29+ messages in thread
* problem with b43
2010-09-24 17:30 ` Gábor Stefanik
@ 2010-09-24 17:43 ` Michael Büsch
-1 siblings, 0 replies; 29+ messages in thread
From: Michael Büsch @ 2010-09-24 17:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Gábor Stefanik; +Cc: John W. Linville, linux-wireless, b43-dev
On Fri, 2010-09-24 at 19:30 +0200, G?bor Stefanik wrote:
> OpenFWWF definitely won't work with LP-PHYs. We don't even know enough
> about LP-PHY to fix the DMA error, let alone to write our own
> firmware...
Well, the firmware is pretty much independent of the PHY that is used
(except for some workarounds and some minor stuff).
The firmware does only depend on the wireless MAC core revision.
What 80211 core rev do LP PHY devices typically have?
--
Greetings Michael.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 29+ messages in thread
* Re: problem with b43
@ 2010-09-24 17:43 ` Michael Büsch
0 siblings, 0 replies; 29+ messages in thread
From: Michael Büsch @ 2010-09-24 17:43 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: Gábor Stefanik; +Cc: John W. Linville, linux-wireless, b43-dev
On Fri, 2010-09-24 at 19:30 +0200, Gábor Stefanik wrote:
> OpenFWWF definitely won't work with LP-PHYs. We don't even know enough
> about LP-PHY to fix the DMA error, let alone to write our own
> firmware...
Well, the firmware is pretty much independent of the PHY that is used
(except for some workarounds and some minor stuff).
The firmware does only depend on the wireless MAC core revision.
What 80211 core rev do LP PHY devices typically have?
--
Greetings Michael.
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 29+ messages in thread
* problem with b43
2010-09-24 17:21 ` John W. Linville
@ 2010-09-24 17:39 ` Cyrille
-1 siblings, 0 replies; 29+ messages in thread
From: Cyrille @ 2010-09-24 17:39 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: John W. Linville; +Cc: Gábor Stefanik, b43-dev, linux-wireless
> 'm guessing it is from "Free-dora"
> by way of BLAG, and I have no control over it -- sorry.
Yes I'm using a BLAG 119K with a free-dora kernel.
Cyrille
----
[ cyrille at cbiot.fr | http://cbiot.fr ]
"Et le combat cessa faute de combattants."
--- Le Cid (1636), IV, 3, Rodrigue - - - -
BLAG : http://blagblagblag.org
Blag'em up! http://zenblagger.org
^ permalink raw reply [flat|nested] 29+ messages in thread
* problem with b43
2010-09-24 16:55 problem " Cyrille
2010-09-24 17:06 ` Gábor Stefanik
@ 2010-09-24 17:10 ` Rafał Miłecki
[not found] ` <20100924191547.59c58e7b.cyrille@cbiot.fr>
1 sibling, 1 reply; 29+ messages in thread
From: Rafał Miłecki @ 2010-09-24 17:10 UTC (permalink / raw)
To: b43-dev
2010/9/24 Cyrille <cyrille@cbiot.fr>:
> Installation method ( http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#fw-b43-lp ) :
> You are using the b43 driver from linux-2.6.25 or newer
> export FIRMWARE_INSTALL_DIR="/lib/firmware"
> wget http://mirror2.openwrt.org/sources/broadcom-wl-4.150.10.5.tar.bz2
> tar xjf broadcom-wl-4.150.10.5.tar.bz2
> cd broadcom-wl-4.150.10.5/driver
> sudo ../../b43-fwcutter-013/b43-fwcutter -w "$FIRMWARE_INSTALL_DIR" wl_apsta_mimo.o
This should lead to system having firmware in /lib/firmware/b43/. Make
sure you have "some" files in this directory.
> Seems work : ls /lib/firmware/b43-open/
> a0g0bsinitvals5.fw ? a0g1bsinitvals9.fw ? b0g0bsinitvals9.fw ?lp0bsinitvals15.fw ?n0initvals11.fw ?ucode5.fw
> a0g0bsinitvals9.fw ? a0g1initvals13.fw ? ?b0g0initvals13.fw ? lp0initvals13.fw ? ?pcm5.fw ? ? ? ? ?ucode9.fw
> a0g0initvals5.fw ? ? a0g1initvals5.fw ? ? b0g0initvals5.fw ? ?lp0initvals14.fw ? ?ucode11.fw
> a0g0initvals9.fw ? ? a0g1initvals9.fw ? ? b0g0initvals9.fw ? ?lp0initvals15.fw ? ?ucode13.fw
> a0g1bsinitvals13.fw ?b0g0bsinitvals13.fw ?lp0bsinitvals13.fw ?n0absinitvals11.fw ?ucode14.fw
> a0g1bsinitvals5.fw ? b0g0bsinitvals5.fw ? lp0bsinitvals14.fw ?n0bsinitvals11.fw ? ucode15.fw
b43-open is for open firmware, which does not support LP-PHY. You've
to use original, closed source, ugly-licensed firmware (placed in
/lib/firmware/b43/).
> But :
> dmesg
> b43-phy3 ERROR: You must go to http://wireless.kernel.org/en/users/Drivers/b43#devicefirmware and download the correct firmware for this driver version. Please carefully read all instructions on this website.
> b43-phy4: Broadcom 4312 WLAN found (core revision 15)
> b43-phy4 debug: Found PHY: Analog 6, Type 5, Revision 1
> b43-phy4 debug: Found Radio: Manuf 0x17F, Version 0x2062, Revision 2
> phy4: Selected rate control algorithm 'minstrel'
> Registered led device: b43-phy4::tx
> Registered led device: b43-phy4::rx
> Registered led device: b43-phy4::radio
> Broadcom 43xx driver loaded [ Features: PMLS, Firmware-ID: FW13 ]
> ssb0:0: Missing Free firmware
> b43-phy4 ERROR: Rejected non-Free firmware
> ssb0:0: Missing Free firmware
> b43-phy4 ERROR: Rejected non-Free firmware
Your distro doesn't allow non-free firmware. As I said, LP-PHY won't
work with open firmware. Refer to your's distro FAQ/forums/MLs to
learn how you can enable non-free firmware usage.
--
Rafa?
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