From: Avi Kivity <avi@redhat.com>
To: Joerg Roedel <joro@8bytes.org>
Cc: "Michael S. Tsirkin" <mst@redhat.com>, Tom Lyon <pugs@cisco.com>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, kvm@vger.kernel.org,
chrisw@sous-sol.org, hjk@linutronix.de, gregkh@suse.de,
aafabbri@cisco.com, scofeldm@cisco.com
Subject: Re: [PATCH] VFIO driver: Non-privileged user level PCI drivers
Date: Wed, 02 Jun 2010 14:21:47 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C063ECB.8010706@redhat.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <20100602100404.GF964@8bytes.org>
On 06/02/2010 01:04 PM, Joerg Roedel wrote:
> On Wed, Jun 02, 2010 at 12:49:28PM +0300, Avi Kivity wrote:
>
>> On 06/02/2010 12:45 PM, Joerg Roedel wrote:
>>
>>> IOMMU mapped memory can not be swapped out because we can't do demand
>>> paging on io-page-faults with current devices. We have to pin _all_
>>> userspace memory that is mapped into an IOMMU domain.
>>>
>> vhost doesn't pin memory.
>>
>> What I proposed is to describe the memory map using an object (fd), and
>> pass it around to clients that use it: kvm, vhost, vfio. That way you
>> maintain the memory map in a central location and broadcast changes to
>> clients. Only a vfio client would result in memory being pinned.
>>
> Ah ok, so its only about the database which keeps the mapping
> information.
>
Yes.
>
>> It can still work, but the interface needs to be extended to include
>> dirty bitmap logging.
>>
> Thats hard to do. I am not sure about VT-d but the AMD IOMMU has no
> dirty-bits in the page-table. And without demand-paging we can't really
> tell what pages a device has written to. The only choice is to mark all
> IOMMU-mapped pages dirty as long as they are mapped.
>
>
The interface would only work for clients which support it: kvm, vhost,
and iommu/devices with restartable dma.
Note dirty logging is not very interesting for vfio anyway, since you
can't live migrate with assigned devices.
--
error compiling committee.c: too many arguments to function
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-06-02 11:22 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 66+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-05-28 23:07 [PATCH] VFIO driver: Non-privileged user level PCI drivers Tom Lyon
2010-05-28 23:36 ` Randy Dunlap
2010-05-28 23:56 ` Randy Dunlap
2010-05-29 11:55 ` Arnd Bergmann
2010-05-29 12:16 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-30 12:19 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-05-30 12:27 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-30 12:49 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-05-30 13:01 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-30 13:03 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-05-30 13:13 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-30 14:53 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-05-31 11:50 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-31 17:10 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-06-01 8:10 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-01 9:55 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-06-01 10:28 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-01 10:46 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-06-01 12:41 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-02 9:45 ` Joerg Roedel
2010-06-02 9:49 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-02 10:04 ` Joerg Roedel
2010-06-02 10:09 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-06-02 11:21 ` Avi Kivity [this message]
2010-06-02 16:53 ` Chris Wright
2010-06-06 13:44 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-02 10:15 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-06-02 10:26 ` Joerg Roedel
2010-06-01 21:26 ` Tom Lyon
2010-06-02 2:59 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-02 5:29 ` Chris Wright
2010-06-02 5:40 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-02 4:29 ` Alex Williamson
2010-06-02 4:59 ` Tom Lyon
2010-06-02 5:08 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-02 9:53 ` Joerg Roedel
2010-06-02 9:42 ` Joerg Roedel
2010-06-02 9:50 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-02 9:53 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-06-02 10:19 ` Joerg Roedel
2010-06-02 10:21 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-06-02 10:35 ` Joerg Roedel
2010-06-02 10:38 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-06-02 11:12 ` Joerg Roedel
2010-06-02 11:21 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-06-02 12:19 ` Joerg Roedel
2010-06-02 12:25 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-02 12:50 ` Joerg Roedel
2010-06-02 13:06 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-02 13:53 ` Joerg Roedel
2010-06-02 13:17 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-06-02 14:01 ` Joerg Roedel
2010-06-02 12:34 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-06-02 13:02 ` Joerg Roedel
2010-06-02 17:46 ` Chris Wright
2010-06-02 18:09 ` Tom Lyon
2010-06-02 19:46 ` Joerg Roedel
2010-06-03 6:23 ` Avi Kivity
2010-06-03 21:41 ` Tom Lyon
2010-06-06 9:54 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-06-07 19:01 ` Tom Lyon
2010-06-08 21:22 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-06-02 10:44 ` Michael S. Tsirkin
2010-05-30 12:59 ` Avi Kivity
2010-05-31 17:17 ` Alan Cox
2010-06-01 21:29 ` Tom Lyon
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