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From: ryan@bluewatersys.com (Ryan Mallon)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: gpiolib and sleeping gpios
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 09:31:26 +1200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C1E88AE.5070808@bluewatersys.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <386783.17931.qm@web180310.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

On 06/19/2010 06:21 PM, David Brownell wrote:
> 
>>
>> The runtime warnings will only show instances where the
>> non-sleeping
>> versions where called instead of the sleeping versions.
> 
> ... *AND* the GPIO requires the cansleep() version...
> 
> Right; such calls are errors.  We issue
> warnings since fault returns are inapplicable.

A driver which only uses the non-sleeping versions, but _could_ use the
cansleep variants (ie all calls to gpio_(set/get)_value are made from
contexts where it is possible to sleep) is not so easy to spot. Passing
a sleeping to gpio to such a driver will result in spurious warnings.

>> There is no
>> warning to say that we are calling the spinlock safe
>> version, where it is possible to sleep.
> 
> The call context isn't what controls whether
> gpio_get_value() or gpio_get_value_cansleep()
> is appropriate ... it's the GPIO itself, and
> how its implementation works.

No, a driver should not know anything about a gpio which is passed to
it. If a driver is able to call the cansleep variants, then it should,
and it will allow any gpio, sleeping or non-sleeping, to be used with
that driver.

If a driver uses a gpio in such a way that it cannot sleep, ie the
gpio_(get/set)_value calls are made from spinlock context, then only
gpios which do not sleep may be used with that driver.

Thats why I think specifying whether the gpio is able to sleep when it
is requested is a good idea. A driver which cannot use a sleeping gpio


> "possible to sleep" is a GPIO attribute,
> exposed by a predicate.  If spinlock-safe
> calls are used on GPIOs with that attribute,
>  a warning *IS* issued.

Possible to sleep is also an attribute of how a driver _uses_ a gpio.

>>
>> The point I was trying to make is that there are lots of
>> drivers which
>> will not work with gpios on sleeping io expanders because
>> they call the
>> spinlock safe gpio calls.
> 
> And they will trigger runtime warnings, and
> thus eventually get fixed.  The way to do that
> is to check if the GPIO needs the cansleep()
> call

Hmm, maybe this then for drivers which cannot accept sleeping gpios:

  if (gpio_cansleep(some_gpio)) {
  	  dev_err(&dev, "This driver only supports non-sleeping gpios");
	  return -EINVAL;
  }

  err = gpio_request(some_gpio, "some_gpio");

I think ideally, gpio_request should specify this via a flags argument, ie:

  #define GPIOF_NO_SLEEP	0x0
  #define GPIOF_CANSLEEP	0x1

  err = gpio_request(some_gpio, "some_gpio", GPIOF_NO_SLEEP);

~Ryan

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WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: Ryan Mallon <ryan@bluewatersys.com>
To: David Brownell <david-b@pacbell.net>
Cc: "David Brownell" <dbrownell@users.sourceforge.net>,
	gregkh@suse.de, "linux kernel" <linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org>,
	ext-jani.1.nikula@nokia.com,
	"Uwe Kleine-König" <u.kleine-koenig@pengutronix.de>,
	"Andrew Morton" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
	linux-arm-kernel <linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>
Subject: Re: gpiolib and sleeping gpios
Date: Mon, 21 Jun 2010 09:31:26 +1200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C1E88AE.5070808@bluewatersys.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <386783.17931.qm@web180310.mail.gq1.yahoo.com>

On 06/19/2010 06:21 PM, David Brownell wrote:
> 
>>
>> The runtime warnings will only show instances where the
>> non-sleeping
>> versions where called instead of the sleeping versions.
> 
> ... *AND* the GPIO requires the cansleep() version...
> 
> Right; such calls are errors.  We issue
> warnings since fault returns are inapplicable.

A driver which only uses the non-sleeping versions, but _could_ use the
cansleep variants (ie all calls to gpio_(set/get)_value are made from
contexts where it is possible to sleep) is not so easy to spot. Passing
a sleeping to gpio to such a driver will result in spurious warnings.

>> There is no
>> warning to say that we are calling the spinlock safe
>> version, where it is possible to sleep.
> 
> The call context isn't what controls whether
> gpio_get_value() or gpio_get_value_cansleep()
> is appropriate ... it's the GPIO itself, and
> how its implementation works.

No, a driver should not know anything about a gpio which is passed to
it. If a driver is able to call the cansleep variants, then it should,
and it will allow any gpio, sleeping or non-sleeping, to be used with
that driver.

If a driver uses a gpio in such a way that it cannot sleep, ie the
gpio_(get/set)_value calls are made from spinlock context, then only
gpios which do not sleep may be used with that driver.

Thats why I think specifying whether the gpio is able to sleep when it
is requested is a good idea. A driver which cannot use a sleeping gpio


> "possible to sleep" is a GPIO attribute,
> exposed by a predicate.  If spinlock-safe
> calls are used on GPIOs with that attribute,
>  a warning *IS* issued.

Possible to sleep is also an attribute of how a driver _uses_ a gpio.

>>
>> The point I was trying to make is that there are lots of
>> drivers which
>> will not work with gpios on sleeping io expanders because
>> they call the
>> spinlock safe gpio calls.
> 
> And they will trigger runtime warnings, and
> thus eventually get fixed.  The way to do that
> is to check if the GPIO needs the cansleep()
> call

Hmm, maybe this then for drivers which cannot accept sleeping gpios:

  if (gpio_cansleep(some_gpio)) {
  	  dev_err(&dev, "This driver only supports non-sleeping gpios");
	  return -EINVAL;
  }

  err = gpio_request(some_gpio, "some_gpio");

I think ideally, gpio_request should specify this via a flags argument, ie:

  #define GPIOF_NO_SLEEP	0x0
  #define GPIOF_CANSLEEP	0x1

  err = gpio_request(some_gpio, "some_gpio", GPIOF_NO_SLEEP);

~Ryan

-- 
Bluewater Systems Ltd - ARM Technology Solution Centre

Ryan Mallon         		5 Amuri Park, 404 Barbadoes St
ryan@bluewatersys.com         	PO Box 13 889, Christchurch 8013
http://www.bluewatersys.com	New Zealand
Phone: +64 3 3779127		Freecall: Australia 1800 148 751
Fax:   +64 3 3779135			  USA 1800 261 2934

  reply	other threads:[~2010-06-20 21:31 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 64+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-06-17 21:47 gpiolib and sleeping gpios Ryan Mallon
2010-06-17 21:47 ` Ryan Mallon
2010-06-18  5:27 ` Uwe Kleine-König
2010-06-18  5:27   ` Uwe Kleine-König
2010-06-18  6:16 ` David Brownell
2010-06-18  6:16   ` David Brownell
2010-06-18 22:01   ` Ryan Mallon
2010-06-18 22:01     ` Ryan Mallon
2010-06-19  6:21     ` David Brownell
2010-06-19  6:21       ` David Brownell
2010-06-20 21:31       ` Ryan Mallon [this message]
2010-06-20 21:31         ` Ryan Mallon
2010-06-21  2:40         ` David Brownell
2010-06-21  2:40           ` David Brownell
2010-06-21  5:09           ` Uwe Kleine-König
2010-06-21  5:09             ` Uwe Kleine-König
2010-06-23  1:59             ` [RFC PATCH] Rework gpio cansleep (was Re: gpiolib and sleeping gpios) Ryan Mallon
2010-06-23  1:59               ` Ryan Mallon
2010-06-23  4:37               ` David Brownell
2010-06-23  4:37                 ` David Brownell
2010-06-23  4:58                 ` Eric Miao
2010-06-23  4:58                   ` Eric Miao
2010-06-23  9:51                   ` David Brownell
2010-06-23  9:51                     ` David Brownell
2010-06-23  5:02                 ` Ryan Mallon
2010-06-23  5:02                   ` Ryan Mallon
2010-06-23  5:26                   ` Eric Miao
2010-06-23  5:26                     ` Eric Miao
2010-06-23  9:39                   ` David Brownell
2010-06-23  9:39                     ` David Brownell
2010-06-23 19:12                     ` Ryan Mallon
2010-06-23 19:12                       ` Ryan Mallon
2010-06-24  4:46                       ` [RFC PATCH] Rework gpio cansleep (was Re: gpiolib and sleepinggpios) Jon Povey
2010-06-24  4:46                         ` Jon Povey
2010-06-24  8:20                         ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2010-06-24  8:20                           ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2010-06-24  8:29                         ` Jani Nikula
2010-06-24  8:29                           ` Jani Nikula
2010-06-24 10:31                           ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2010-06-24 10:31                             ` Lars-Peter Clausen
2010-06-24  6:41                       ` [RFC PATCH] Rework gpio cansleep (was Re: gpiolib and sleeping gpios) Uwe Kleine-König
2010-06-24  6:41                         ` Uwe Kleine-König
2010-06-23 22:53                   ` Jamie Lokier
2010-06-23 22:53                     ` Jamie Lokier
2010-06-23 23:06                     ` Ryan Mallon
2010-06-23 23:06                       ` Ryan Mallon
2010-06-24  0:04                       ` Jamie Lokier
2010-06-24  0:04                         ` Jamie Lokier
2010-06-24  0:10                         ` Ryan Mallon
2010-06-24  0:10                           ` Ryan Mallon
2010-06-25  7:19                           ` David Brownell
2010-06-25  7:19                             ` David Brownell
2010-06-24  4:33                         ` [RFC PATCH] Rework gpio cansleep (was Re: gpiolib and sleepinggpios) Jon Povey
2010-06-24  4:33                           ` Jon Povey
2010-06-29  8:29         ` gpiolib and sleeping gpios CoffBeta
2010-06-29  8:29           ` CoffBeta
2010-06-23 11:53       ` Jani Nikula
2010-06-23 11:53         ` Jani Nikula
2010-06-23 12:40         ` David Brownell
2010-06-23 12:40           ` David Brownell
2010-06-23 13:22           ` Jani Nikula
2010-06-23 13:22             ` Jani Nikula
2010-06-23 13:39             ` David Brownell
2010-06-23 13:39               ` David Brownell

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