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From: Felix Fietkau <nbd@openwrt.org>
To: ath9k-devel@lists.ath9k.org
Subject: [ath9k-devel] [RFC/RFT] minstrel_ht: new rate control module for 802.11n
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 02:12:24 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C27E8E8.8040606@openwrt.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikmXoEnHb1K9StEgszdllAxdsAbm9WdtSUiwKWE@mail.gmail.com>

On 2010-06-28 2:01 AM, Bj?rn Smedman wrote:
> 2010/6/23 Felix Fietkau <nbd@openwrt.org>:
>> On 2010-06-23 6:36 PM, Bj?rn Smedman wrote:
>>> [snip] As
>>> far as I can tell, whenever the first subframe of an aggregate fails
>>> and is software retried, the rate control feedback for that aggregate
>>> is lost (ath_tx_rc_status() is never called with update_rc = true in
>>> xmit.c).
>> I think you misread that part. The loop iterates over all subframes in
>> the aggregate, and the first successful or swretry-expired frame will
>> trigger an AMPDU status report, which will update the RC. The first
>> subframe of the A-MPDU is not getting any special treatment here.
> 
> You're (still) right I misread that part. But I think there is another
> problem when the first subframe of an A-MPDU is not acked: if it has
> not expired yet it is (as I understand it) prepended to the tid queue
> for software retry and will therefore be the first subframe of the
> next aggregate as well, which will then be transmitted with the same
> "old" rates and counts as the previous aggregate. So the feedback from
> xmit to rc works, but the control information flow from rc to xmit is
> delayed.
> 
> I guess the real solution is your rewrite... But in the mean time
> perhaps we can memcpy the tx_info control from the last subframe to
> the first before calling ath_buf_set_rate() in ath_tx_sched_aggr()?
> Could that have any side effects? It could make the aggregate size go
> over the 4 ms limit I guess... How bad is that?
There's an easy solution which would take into account the 4ms frame
limit properly, and which could work without any memcpy() hacks:

I could just grab a pointer to the last buffer in the tid queue in the
ath_tx_sched_aggr() function, then pass it to ath_lookup_rate() via
ath_tx_form_aggr(), and also to ath_buf_set_rate(). Then I make those
functions use this last buffer as reference for the rate lookup.

- Felix

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From: Felix Fietkau <nbd@openwrt.org>
To: "Björn Smedman" <bjorn.smedman@venatech.se>
Cc: linux-wireless <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>,
	Derek Smithies <derek@indranet.co.nz>,
	Benoit PAPILLAULT <benoit.papillault@free.fr>,
	"Luis R. Rodriguez" <lrodriguez@atheros.com>,
	Christian Lamparter <chunkeey@googlemail.com>,
	Johannes Berg <johannes@sipsolutions.net>,
	ath9k-devel@lists.ath9k.org
Subject: Re: [RFC/RFT] minstrel_ht: new rate control module for 802.11n
Date: Mon, 28 Jun 2010 02:12:24 +0200	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C27E8E8.8040606@openwrt.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTikmXoEnHb1K9StEgszdllAxdsAbm9WdtSUiwKWE@mail.gmail.com>

On 2010-06-28 2:01 AM, Björn Smedman wrote:
> 2010/6/23 Felix Fietkau <nbd@openwrt.org>:
>> On 2010-06-23 6:36 PM, Björn Smedman wrote:
>>> [snip] As
>>> far as I can tell, whenever the first subframe of an aggregate fails
>>> and is software retried, the rate control feedback for that aggregate
>>> is lost (ath_tx_rc_status() is never called with update_rc = true in
>>> xmit.c).
>> I think you misread that part. The loop iterates over all subframes in
>> the aggregate, and the first successful or swretry-expired frame will
>> trigger an AMPDU status report, which will update the RC. The first
>> subframe of the A-MPDU is not getting any special treatment here.
> 
> You're (still) right I misread that part. But I think there is another
> problem when the first subframe of an A-MPDU is not acked: if it has
> not expired yet it is (as I understand it) prepended to the tid queue
> for software retry and will therefore be the first subframe of the
> next aggregate as well, which will then be transmitted with the same
> "old" rates and counts as the previous aggregate. So the feedback from
> xmit to rc works, but the control information flow from rc to xmit is
> delayed.
> 
> I guess the real solution is your rewrite... But in the mean time
> perhaps we can memcpy the tx_info control from the last subframe to
> the first before calling ath_buf_set_rate() in ath_tx_sched_aggr()?
> Could that have any side effects? It could make the aggregate size go
> over the 4 ms limit I guess... How bad is that?
There's an easy solution which would take into account the 4ms frame
limit properly, and which could work without any memcpy() hacks:

I could just grab a pointer to the last buffer in the tid queue in the
ath_tx_sched_aggr() function, then pass it to ath_lookup_rate() via
ath_tx_form_aggr(), and also to ath_buf_set_rate(). Then I make those
functions use this last buffer as reference for the rate lookup.

- Felix

  reply	other threads:[~2010-06-28  0:12 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 30+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-03-01 22:05 [RFC/RFT] minstrel_ht: new rate control module for 802.11n Felix Fietkau
2010-03-01 22:38 ` Derek Smithies
2010-03-01 22:58   ` Felix Fietkau
2010-03-01 23:04     ` Derek Smithies
2010-03-02 12:19 ` Björn Smedman
2010-03-02 14:51   ` Felix Fietkau
2010-03-02 15:47     ` Björn Smedman
2010-03-02 16:14       ` Felix Fietkau
2010-06-23 16:36         ` [ath9k-devel] " Björn Smedman
2010-06-23 16:36           ` Björn Smedman
2010-06-23 17:07           ` [ath9k-devel] " Felix Fietkau
2010-06-23 17:07             ` Felix Fietkau
2010-06-23 18:47             ` [ath9k-devel] " Björn Smedman
2010-06-23 18:47               ` Björn Smedman
2010-06-23 19:27               ` [ath9k-devel] " Felix Fietkau
2010-06-23 19:27                 ` Felix Fietkau
2010-06-23 23:56                 ` [ath9k-devel] " Björn Smedman
2010-06-23 23:56                   ` Björn Smedman
2010-06-28  0:01             ` [ath9k-devel] " Björn Smedman
2010-06-28  0:01               ` Björn Smedman
2010-06-28  0:12               ` Felix Fietkau [this message]
2010-06-28  0:12                 ` Felix Fietkau
2010-06-28 10:20                 ` [ath9k-devel] " Björn Smedman
2010-06-28 10:20                   ` Björn Smedman
2010-06-28 10:27                   ` [ath9k-devel] " Felix Fietkau
2010-06-28 10:27                     ` Felix Fietkau
2010-03-02 21:55       ` Derek Smithies
2010-03-04 14:12         ` Bob Copeland
2010-03-04 16:40           ` Björn Smedman
2010-03-04 20:11             ` Derek Smithies

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