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From: Zach Pfeffer <zpfeffer@codeaurora.org>
To: Daniel Walker <dwalker@codeaurora.org>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Randy Dunlap <randy.dunlap@oracle.com>,
	mel@csn.ul.ie, linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org, linux-omap@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [RFC 3/3] mm: iommu: The Virtual Contiguous Memory Manager
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2010 00:33:51 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C2D965F.5000206@codeaurora.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1278021944.7738.43.camel@c-dwalke-linux.qualcomm.com>

Daniel Walker wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-07-01 at 15:00 -0700, Zach Pfeffer wrote:
> 
> 
>> Additionally, the current IOMMU interface does not allow users to
>> associate one page table with multiple IOMMUs unless the user explicitly
>> wrote a muxed device underneith the IOMMU interface. This also could be
>> done, but would have to be done for every such use case. Since the
>> particular topology is run-time configurable all of these use-cases and
>> more can be expressed without pushing the topology into the low-level
>> IOMMU driver.
>>
>> The VCMM takes the long view. Its designed for a future in which the
>> number of IOMMUs will go up and the ways in which these IOMMUs are
>> composed will vary from system to system, and may vary at
>> runtime. Already, there are ~20 different IOMMU map implementations in
>> the kernel. Had the Linux kernel had the VCMM, many of those
>> implementations could have leveraged the mapping and topology management
>> of a VCMM, while focusing on a few key hardware specific functions (map
>> this physical address, program the page table base register).
> 
> So if we include this code which "map implementations" could you
> collapse into this implementations ? Generally , what currently existing
> code can VCMM help to eliminate?

In theory, it can eliminate all code the interoperates between IOMMU,
CPU and non-IOMMU based devices and all the mapping code, alignment,
mapping attribute and special block size support that's been
implemented.


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From: Zach Pfeffer <zpfeffer@codeaurora.org>
To: Daniel Walker <dwalker@codeaurora.org>
Cc: Andi Kleen <andi@firstfloor.org>,
	Randy Dunlap <randy.dunlap@oracle.com>,
	mel@csn.ul.ie, linux-mm@kvack.org, linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-msm@vger.kernel.org, linux-omap@vger.kernel.org,
	linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: Re: [RFC 3/3] mm: iommu: The Virtual Contiguous Memory Manager
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2010 00:33:51 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C2D965F.5000206@codeaurora.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1278021944.7738.43.camel@c-dwalke-linux.qualcomm.com>

Daniel Walker wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-07-01 at 15:00 -0700, Zach Pfeffer wrote:
> 
> 
>> Additionally, the current IOMMU interface does not allow users to
>> associate one page table with multiple IOMMUs unless the user explicitly
>> wrote a muxed device underneith the IOMMU interface. This also could be
>> done, but would have to be done for every such use case. Since the
>> particular topology is run-time configurable all of these use-cases and
>> more can be expressed without pushing the topology into the low-level
>> IOMMU driver.
>>
>> The VCMM takes the long view. Its designed for a future in which the
>> number of IOMMUs will go up and the ways in which these IOMMUs are
>> composed will vary from system to system, and may vary at
>> runtime. Already, there are ~20 different IOMMU map implementations in
>> the kernel. Had the Linux kernel had the VCMM, many of those
>> implementations could have leveraged the mapping and topology management
>> of a VCMM, while focusing on a few key hardware specific functions (map
>> this physical address, program the page table base register).
> 
> So if we include this code which "map implementations" could you
> collapse into this implementations ? Generally , what currently existing
> code can VCMM help to eliminate?

In theory, it can eliminate all code the interoperates between IOMMU,
CPU and non-IOMMU based devices and all the mapping code, alignment,
mapping attribute and special block size support that's been
implemented.


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From: zpfeffer@codeaurora.org (Zach Pfeffer)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [RFC 3/3] mm: iommu: The Virtual Contiguous Memory Manager
Date: Fri, 02 Jul 2010 00:33:51 -0700	[thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C2D965F.5000206@codeaurora.org> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <1278021944.7738.43.camel@c-dwalke-linux.qualcomm.com>

Daniel Walker wrote:
> On Thu, 2010-07-01 at 15:00 -0700, Zach Pfeffer wrote:
> 
> 
>> Additionally, the current IOMMU interface does not allow users to
>> associate one page table with multiple IOMMUs unless the user explicitly
>> wrote a muxed device underneith the IOMMU interface. This also could be
>> done, but would have to be done for every such use case. Since the
>> particular topology is run-time configurable all of these use-cases and
>> more can be expressed without pushing the topology into the low-level
>> IOMMU driver.
>>
>> The VCMM takes the long view. Its designed for a future in which the
>> number of IOMMUs will go up and the ways in which these IOMMUs are
>> composed will vary from system to system, and may vary at
>> runtime. Already, there are ~20 different IOMMU map implementations in
>> the kernel. Had the Linux kernel had the VCMM, many of those
>> implementations could have leveraged the mapping and topology management
>> of a VCMM, while focusing on a few key hardware specific functions (map
>> this physical address, program the page table base register).
> 
> So if we include this code which "map implementations" could you
> collapse into this implementations ? Generally , what currently existing
> code can VCMM help to eliminate?

In theory, it can eliminate all code the interoperates between IOMMU,
CPU and non-IOMMU based devices and all the mapping code, alignment,
mapping attribute and special block size support that's been
implemented.


-- 
Sent by an employee of the Qualcomm Innovation Center, Inc.
The Qualcomm Innovation Center, Inc. is a member of the Code Aurora Forum.

  reply	other threads:[~2010-07-02  7:33 UTC|newest]

Thread overview: 142+ messages / expand[flat|nested]  mbox.gz  Atom feed  top
2010-06-30  5:55 [RFC 1/3] mm: iommu: An API to unify IOMMU, CPU and device memory management Zach Pfeffer
2010-06-30  5:55 ` Zach Pfeffer
2010-06-30  5:55 ` Zach Pfeffer
2010-06-30  5:55 ` [RFC 2/3] mm: iommu: A physical allocator for the VCMM Zach Pfeffer
2010-06-30  5:55   ` Zach Pfeffer
2010-06-30  5:55   ` Zach Pfeffer
2010-06-30  5:55 ` [RFC 3/3] mm: iommu: The Virtual Contiguous Memory Manager Zach Pfeffer
2010-06-30  5:55   ` Zach Pfeffer
2010-06-30  5:55   ` Zach Pfeffer
2010-07-01 17:17   ` Randy Dunlap
2010-07-01 17:17     ` Randy Dunlap
2010-07-01 17:17     ` Randy Dunlap
2010-07-01 18:02     ` Andi Kleen
2010-07-01 18:02       ` Andi Kleen
2010-07-01 18:02       ` Andi Kleen
2010-07-01 19:28       ` Daniel Walker
2010-07-01 19:28         ` Daniel Walker
2010-07-01 19:28         ` Daniel Walker
2010-07-01 19:38         ` Andi Kleen
2010-07-01 19:38           ` Andi Kleen
2010-07-01 19:38           ` Andi Kleen
2010-07-01 19:42           ` Daniel Walker
2010-07-01 19:42             ` Daniel Walker
2010-07-01 19:42             ` Daniel Walker
2010-07-01 22:15             ` Hari Kanigeri
2010-07-01 22:15               ` Hari Kanigeri
2010-07-01 22:15               ` Hari Kanigeri
2010-07-02  7:09               ` Zach Pfeffer
2010-07-02  7:09                 ` Zach Pfeffer
2010-07-02  7:09                 ` Zach Pfeffer
2010-07-10 14:36                 ` Joerg Roedel
2010-07-10 14:36                   ` Joerg Roedel
2010-07-10 14:36                   ` Joerg Roedel
2010-07-13  5:21                   ` Zach Pfeffer
2010-07-13  5:21                     ` Zach Pfeffer
2010-07-13  5:21                     ` Zach Pfeffer
2010-07-14 19:34                     ` Joerg Roedel
2010-07-14 19:34                       ` Joerg Roedel
2010-07-14 19:34                       ` Joerg Roedel
2010-07-15  1:18                       ` Zach Pfeffer
2010-07-15  1:18                         ` Zach Pfeffer
2010-07-15  1:18                         ` Zach Pfeffer
2010-07-01 22:00           ` Zach Pfeffer
2010-07-01 22:00             ` Zach Pfeffer
2010-07-01 22:00             ` Zach Pfeffer
2010-07-01 22:05             ` Daniel Walker
2010-07-01 22:05               ` Daniel Walker
2010-07-01 22:05               ` Daniel Walker
2010-07-02  7:33               ` Zach Pfeffer [this message]
2010-07-02  7:33                 ` Zach Pfeffer
2010-07-02  7:33                 ` Zach Pfeffer
2010-07-10 14:56                 ` Joerg Roedel
2010-07-10 14:56                   ` Joerg Roedel
2010-07-10 14:56                   ` Joerg Roedel
2010-07-13  5:46                   ` Zach Pfeffer
2010-07-13  5:46                     ` Zach Pfeffer
2010-07-13  5:46                     ` Zach Pfeffer
2010-07-13  5:59                     ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-07-13  5:59                       ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-07-13  5:59                       ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-07-13  8:20                       ` Alan Cox
2010-07-13  8:20                         ` Alan Cox
2010-07-13  8:20                         ` Alan Cox
2010-07-13  8:30                         ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-07-13  8:30                           ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-07-13  8:30                           ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-07-13  8:42                           ` Alan Cox
2010-07-13  8:42                             ` Alan Cox
2010-07-13  8:42                             ` Alan Cox
2010-07-13  8:45                             ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-07-13  8:45                               ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-07-13  8:45                               ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-07-13  9:02                               ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-07-13  9:02                                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-07-13  9:02                                 ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-07-14  1:59                                 ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-07-14  1:59                                   ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-07-14  1:59                                   ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-07-22  3:50                                   ` Zach Pfeffer
2010-07-22  3:50                                     ` Zach Pfeffer
2010-07-22  3:50                                     ` Zach Pfeffer
2010-07-22  4:47                                     ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-07-22  4:47                                       ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-07-22  4:47                                       ` FUJITA Tomonori
2010-07-22 16:33                                       ` Zach Pfeffer
2010-07-22 16:33                                         ` Zach Pfeffer
2010-07-22 16:33                                         ` Zach Pfeffer
2010-07-22  7:51                                     ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-07-22  7:51                                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-07-22  7:51                                       ` Russell King - ARM Linux
2010-07-22 16:13                                       ` Zach Pfeffer
2010-07-22 16:13                                         ` Zach Pfeffer
2010-07-22 16:13                                         ` Zach Pfeffer
2010-07-13 12:06                       ` Zach Pfeffer
2010-07-13 12:06                         ` Zach Pfeffer
2010-07-13 12:06                         ` Zach Pfeffer
2010-07-01 22:51             ` Hari Kanigeri
2010-07-01 22:51               ` Hari Kanigeri
2010-07-01 22:51               ` Hari Kanigeri
2010-07-02  7:29               ` Zach Pfeffer
2010-07-02  7:29                 ` Zach Pfeffer
2010-07-01 23:00             ` Andi Kleen
2010-07-01 23:00               ` Andi Kleen
2010-07-01 23:00               ` Andi Kleen
2010-07-02  6:17               ` Zach Pfeffer
2010-07-02  6:17                 ` Zach Pfeffer
2010-07-02  6:17                 ` Zach Pfeffer
2010-07-02  8:22                 ` Andi Kleen
2010-07-02  8:22                   ` Andi Kleen
2010-07-02  8:22                   ` Andi Kleen
2010-07-02 18:42                   ` Zach Pfeffer
2010-07-02 18:42                     ` Zach Pfeffer
2010-07-02 18:42                     ` Zach Pfeffer
2010-07-10 15:11                 ` Joerg Roedel
2010-07-10 15:11                   ` Joerg Roedel
2010-07-10 15:11                   ` Joerg Roedel
2010-07-13  5:52                   ` Zach Pfeffer
2010-07-13  5:52                     ` Zach Pfeffer
2010-07-13  5:52                     ` Zach Pfeffer
2010-07-03  6:36               ` Zach Pfeffer
2010-07-03  6:36                 ` Zach Pfeffer
2010-07-10 14:54             ` Joerg Roedel
2010-07-10 14:54               ` Joerg Roedel
2010-07-10 14:54               ` Joerg Roedel
2010-07-13  5:27               ` Zach Pfeffer
2010-07-13  5:27                 ` Zach Pfeffer
2010-07-13  5:27                 ` Zach Pfeffer
2010-07-01 20:59     ` Paul Walmsley
2010-07-01 20:59       ` Paul Walmsley
2010-07-01 20:59       ` Paul Walmsley
2010-07-01 21:48       ` Randy Dunlap
2010-07-01 21:48         ` Randy Dunlap
2010-07-01 21:48         ` Randy Dunlap
2010-06-30 23:40 ` [RFC 1/3] mm: iommu: An API to unify IOMMU, CPU and device memory management Randy Dunlap
2010-06-30 23:40   ` Randy Dunlap
2010-06-30 23:40   ` Randy Dunlap
2010-07-01  7:16   ` Zach Pfeffer
2010-07-01  7:16     ` Zach Pfeffer
2010-07-01  7:16     ` Zach Pfeffer
2010-07-02  7:00     ` Paul Mundt
2010-07-02  7:00       ` Paul Mundt
2010-07-02  7:00       ` Paul Mundt

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