From: Roger Quadros <roger.quadros@nokia.com>
To: ext Nicolas Pitre <nico@fluxnic.net>
Cc: ext Ohad Ben-Cohen <ohad@wizery.com>,
"linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org" <linux-wireless@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-mmc@vger.kernel.org" <linux-mmc@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-omap@vger.kernel.org" <linux-omap@vger.kernel.org>,
"linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org"
<linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org>,
"linux@arm.linux.org.uk" <linux@arm.linux.org.uk>,
Chikkature Rajashekar Madhusudhan <madhu.cr@ti.com>,
"Coelho Luciano (Nokia-MS/Helsinki)" <Luciano.Coelho@nokia.com>,
"akpm@linux-foundation.org" <akpm@linux-foundation.org>,
San Mehat <san@google.com>
Subject: Re: [PATCH 11/15] wireless: wl1271: introduce platform device support
Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2010 11:54:46 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C359256.3080704@nokia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.1007070937040.6020@xanadu.home>
On 07/07/2010 04:52 PM, ext Nicolas Pitre wrote:
> On Wed, 7 Jul 2010, Roger Quadros wrote:
>
>> On 07/06/2010 08:42 PM, ext Nicolas Pitre wrote:
>>> On Tue, 6 Jul 2010, Roger Quadros wrote:
>>>
>>>> OK, this is how I see it.
>>>>
>>>> - Treat the non-removable card as non-removable. So no need to do card
>>>> detect
>>>> emulation.
>>>>
>>>> - Treat the GPIO power enable on wl1271 as VMMC supply. Use fixed
>>>> regulator
>>>> framework to define this regulator& supply. Even though you mention that
>>>> it
>>>> is not actually a supply, it fits well in the fixed supply framework.
>>>>
>>>> - When the host controller is enumerated, the mmc core will power up the
>>>> slot,
>>>> find the sdio card, and probe the function driver (i.e. wl1271_sdio).
>>>>
>>>> - if interface is not in use, the function driver must release the sdio
>>>> host,
>>>> and this should eventually disable the vmmc supply.
>>>>
>>>> - Whenever the wlan interface must be brought up, wl1271_sdio, can claim
>>>> the
>>>> sdio host. this will cause the vmmc supply to be enabled, for as long as
>>>> the
>>>> interface is up.
>>>>
>>>> Does this address all issues?
>>>
>>> This is mostly all good, except that claiming/releasing the SDIO host is
>>> about access to the bus. It must be claimed right before doing any IO,
>>> and released right after that, even when the card is expected to remain
>>> powered. This is not the proper place to hook power control.
>>
>> Agreed, but is it so that SDIO power may be removed between a host_release and
>> claim? This appears so from omap_hsmmc host controller.
>
> No, it is not because a host is not claimed that power should be
> dropped. The host claim/release is meant to provide exclusive access to
> the card that's all.
>
> If the OMAP controller is dropping power to the card upon
> host->disable() then it is wrong. AFAICS only the OMAP controller is
> playing such games at the moment and I suspect the semantics might not
> be all right. Shutting down the _controller_ when it is idle might be a
> good thing, but not power to the _card_. Only the function driver might
> know when it is fine to lose power.
>
>
I completely agree with you Nicolas. omap_hsmmc needs to be fixed so that it
does not control MMC/SDIO slot supply voltage. It should deal with only the mmc
controller power savings and not the card/function power savings.
regards,
-roger
WARNING: multiple messages have this Message-ID (diff)
From: roger.quadros@nokia.com (Roger Quadros)
To: linux-arm-kernel@lists.infradead.org
Subject: [PATCH 11/15] wireless: wl1271: introduce platform device support
Date: Thu, 08 Jul 2010 11:54:46 +0300 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C359256.3080704@nokia.com> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <alpine.LFD.2.00.1007070937040.6020@xanadu.home>
On 07/07/2010 04:52 PM, ext Nicolas Pitre wrote:
> On Wed, 7 Jul 2010, Roger Quadros wrote:
>
>> On 07/06/2010 08:42 PM, ext Nicolas Pitre wrote:
>>> On Tue, 6 Jul 2010, Roger Quadros wrote:
>>>
>>>> OK, this is how I see it.
>>>>
>>>> - Treat the non-removable card as non-removable. So no need to do card
>>>> detect
>>>> emulation.
>>>>
>>>> - Treat the GPIO power enable on wl1271 as VMMC supply. Use fixed
>>>> regulator
>>>> framework to define this regulator& supply. Even though you mention that
>>>> it
>>>> is not actually a supply, it fits well in the fixed supply framework.
>>>>
>>>> - When the host controller is enumerated, the mmc core will power up the
>>>> slot,
>>>> find the sdio card, and probe the function driver (i.e. wl1271_sdio).
>>>>
>>>> - if interface is not in use, the function driver must release the sdio
>>>> host,
>>>> and this should eventually disable the vmmc supply.
>>>>
>>>> - Whenever the wlan interface must be brought up, wl1271_sdio, can claim
>>>> the
>>>> sdio host. this will cause the vmmc supply to be enabled, for as long as
>>>> the
>>>> interface is up.
>>>>
>>>> Does this address all issues?
>>>
>>> This is mostly all good, except that claiming/releasing the SDIO host is
>>> about access to the bus. It must be claimed right before doing any IO,
>>> and released right after that, even when the card is expected to remain
>>> powered. This is not the proper place to hook power control.
>>
>> Agreed, but is it so that SDIO power may be removed between a host_release and
>> claim? This appears so from omap_hsmmc host controller.
>
> No, it is not because a host is not claimed that power should be
> dropped. The host claim/release is meant to provide exclusive access to
> the card that's all.
>
> If the OMAP controller is dropping power to the card upon
> host->disable() then it is wrong. AFAICS only the OMAP controller is
> playing such games at the moment and I suspect the semantics might not
> be all right. Shutting down the _controller_ when it is idle might be a
> good thing, but not power to the _card_. Only the function driver might
> know when it is fine to lose power.
>
>
I completely agree with you Nicolas. omap_hsmmc needs to be fixed so that it
does not control MMC/SDIO slot supply voltage. It should deal with only the mmc
controller power savings and not the card/function power savings.
regards,
-roger
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-07-08 8:54 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 161+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-07-06 0:37 [PATCH 00/15] wlan+omap+mmc: out-of-the-box WLAN support for ZOOM2/3 Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-07-06 0:37 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-07-06 0:37 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
[not found] ` <1278376666-3509-1-git-send-email-ohad-Ix1uc/W3ht7QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-06 0:37 ` [PATCH 01/15] sdio: add TI + wl1271 ids Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-07-06 0:37 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-07-06 0:37 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-07-06 0:37 ` [PATCH 07/15] omap zoom3: wlan board muxing Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-07-06 0:37 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-07-06 0:37 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-07-06 0:37 ` [PATCH 09/15] wireless: wl12xx: support pdata SDIO handlers Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-07-06 0:37 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-07-06 0:37 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-07-06 0:37 ` [PATCH 14/15] omap: zoom: add WLAN device Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-07-06 0:37 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-07-06 0:37 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-07-06 12:33 ` Roger Quadros
2010-07-06 12:33 ` Roger Quadros
[not found] ` <4C33228D.8000908-xNZwKgViW5gAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-06 13:47 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-07-06 13:47 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-07-06 13:47 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-07-08 3:39 ` Ghorai, Sukumar
2010-07-08 3:39 ` Ghorai, Sukumar
2010-07-08 3:39 ` Ghorai, Sukumar
2010-07-06 0:37 ` [PATCH 02/15] wireless: wl1271: remove SDIO IDs from driver Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-07-06 0:37 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-07-06 0:37 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-07-06 7:04 ` Luciano Coelho
2010-07-06 7:04 ` Luciano Coelho
2010-07-06 0:37 ` [PATCH 03/15] omap: mmc: prepare for software card detect support Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-07-06 0:37 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-07-06 0:37 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-07-06 0:37 ` [PATCH 04/15] mmc: support embedded data field in mmc_host Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-07-06 0:37 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-07-06 0:37 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-07-06 15:49 ` Grazvydas Ignotas
2010-07-06 15:49 ` Grazvydas Ignotas
2010-07-06 15:49 ` Grazvydas Ignotas
2010-07-06 15:54 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-07-06 15:54 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-07-08 3:39 ` Ghorai, Sukumar
2010-07-08 3:39 ` Ghorai, Sukumar
2010-07-08 3:39 ` Ghorai, Sukumar
2010-07-08 3:39 ` Ghorai, Sukumar
2010-07-06 0:37 ` [PATCH 05/15] omap: hsmmc: add virtual card detect support Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-07-06 0:37 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-07-06 0:37 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-07-06 1:45 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-07-06 1:45 ` Nicolas Pitre
[not found] ` <alpine.LFD.2.00.1007052134460.6020-QuJgVwGFrdf/9pzu0YdTqQ@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-06 10:22 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-07-06 10:22 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-07-06 10:22 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-07-06 11:02 ` Roger Quadros
2010-07-06 11:02 ` Roger Quadros
2010-07-06 12:02 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-07-06 12:02 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-07-06 11:48 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-07-06 11:48 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-07-06 12:39 ` Roger Quadros
2010-07-06 12:39 ` Roger Quadros
2010-07-06 13:44 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-07-06 13:44 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-07-06 15:34 ` Madhusudhan
2010-07-06 15:34 ` Madhusudhan
2010-07-06 15:34 ` Madhusudhan
2010-07-06 17:00 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-07-06 17:00 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-07-06 0:37 ` [PATCH 06/15] omap zoom2: wlan board muxing Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-07-06 0:37 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-07-06 0:37 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-07-06 11:43 ` Tony Lindgren
2010-07-06 11:43 ` Tony Lindgren
2010-07-08 3:39 ` Ghorai, Sukumar
2010-07-08 3:39 ` Ghorai, Sukumar
2010-07-08 3:39 ` Ghorai, Sukumar
2010-07-08 3:39 ` Ghorai, Sukumar
2010-07-08 9:45 ` Tony Lindgren
2010-07-08 9:45 ` Tony Lindgren
2010-07-08 20:12 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-07-08 20:12 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-07-08 20:12 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-07-06 0:37 ` [PATCH 08/15] wireless: wl1271: make wl12xx.h common to both spi and sdio Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-07-06 0:37 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-07-06 0:37 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
[not found] ` <1278376666-3509-9-git-send-email-ohad-Ix1uc/W3ht7QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-06 7:08 ` Luciano Coelho
2010-07-06 7:08 ` Luciano Coelho
2010-07-06 7:08 ` Luciano Coelho
2010-07-06 0:37 ` [PATCH 10/15] wireless: wl1271: support return value for the set power func Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-07-06 0:37 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-07-06 0:37 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-07-06 7:11 ` Luciano Coelho
2010-07-06 7:11 ` Luciano Coelho
2010-07-06 0:37 ` [PATCH 11/15] wireless: wl1271: introduce platform device support Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-07-06 0:37 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-07-06 0:37 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
[not found] ` <1278376666-3509-12-git-send-email-ohad-Ix1uc/W3ht7QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-06 8:53 ` Roger Quadros
2010-07-06 8:53 ` Roger Quadros
2010-07-06 8:53 ` Roger Quadros
[not found] ` <4C32EF19.1000604-xNZwKgViW5gAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-06 9:30 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-07-06 9:30 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-07-06 9:30 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-07-06 10:35 ` Roger Quadros
2010-07-06 10:35 ` Roger Quadros
2010-07-06 12:53 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-07-06 12:53 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-07-06 14:30 ` Roger Quadros
2010-07-06 14:30 ` Roger Quadros
[not found] ` <4C333E0D.2070601-xNZwKgViW5gAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-06 17:42 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-07-06 17:42 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-07-06 17:42 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-07-06 19:51 ` Adrian Hunter
2010-07-06 19:51 ` Adrian Hunter
[not found] ` <4C338927.5020400-xNZwKgViW5gAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-07 8:02 ` Roger Quadros
2010-07-07 8:02 ` Roger Quadros
2010-07-07 8:02 ` Roger Quadros
2010-07-07 14:02 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-07-07 14:02 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-07-07 14:54 ` Madhusudhan
2010-07-07 14:54 ` Madhusudhan
2010-07-07 14:54 ` Madhusudhan
2010-07-07 15:46 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-07-07 15:46 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-07-07 19:59 ` Adrian Hunter
2010-07-07 19:59 ` Adrian Hunter
[not found] ` <4C34DC92.80908-xNZwKgViW5gAvxtiuMwx3w@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-08 4:34 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-07-08 4:34 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-07-08 4:34 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-07-07 7:48 ` Roger Quadros
2010-07-07 7:48 ` Roger Quadros
2010-07-07 13:52 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-07-07 13:52 ` Nicolas Pitre
2010-07-08 8:54 ` Roger Quadros [this message]
2010-07-08 8:54 ` Roger Quadros
2010-07-08 20:10 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-07-08 20:10 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-07-09 8:12 ` Roger Quadros
2010-07-09 8:12 ` Roger Quadros
2010-07-09 8:32 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-07-09 8:32 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-07-09 9:24 ` Grazvydas Ignotas
2010-07-09 9:24 ` Grazvydas Ignotas
2010-08-10 21:21 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-08-10 21:21 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-07-06 0:37 ` [PATCH 12/15] wireless: wl1271: take irq info from platform data Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-07-06 0:37 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-07-06 0:37 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-07-06 0:37 ` [PATCH 13/15] wireless: wl1271: make ref_clock configurable by board Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-07-06 0:37 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-07-06 0:37 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-07-06 0:37 ` [PATCH 15/15] omap: zoom: enable WLAN device Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-07-06 0:37 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-07-06 0:37 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
[not found] ` <1278376666-3509-16-git-send-email-ohad-Ix1uc/W3ht7QT0dZR+AlfA@public.gmane.org>
2010-07-08 3:39 ` Ghorai, Sukumar
2010-07-08 3:39 ` Ghorai, Sukumar
2010-07-08 3:39 ` Ghorai, Sukumar
2010-07-08 20:13 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-07-08 20:13 ` Ohad Ben-Cohen
2010-07-08 3:39 ` Ghorai, Sukumar
2010-07-08 3:39 ` [PATCH 00/15] wlan+omap+mmc: out-of-the-box WLAN support for ZOOM2/3 Ghorai, Sukumar
2010-07-08 3:39 ` Ghorai, Sukumar
2010-07-08 3:39 ` Ghorai, Sukumar
2010-07-08 3:39 ` Ghorai, Sukumar
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