From: Michael Tokarev <mjt@tls.msk.ru>
To: Giangiacomo Mariotti <gg.mariotti@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org,
linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: Re: BTRFS: Unbelievably slow with kvm/qemu
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 17:40:50 +0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C3B1B62.3080900@msgid.tls.msk.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim7A9teJtk5c1jh2g6mDv07HAi72d5S6WveL8Gp@mail.gmail.com>
Giangiacomo Mariotti wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 9:09 AM, Michael Tokarev <mjt@tls.msk.ru> wrote:
>> This looks quite similar to a problem with ext4 and O_SYNC which I
>> reported earlier but no one cared to answer (or read?) - there:
>> http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.file-systems/42758
>> (sent to qemu-devel and linux-fsdevel lists - Cc'd too). You can
>> try a few other options, esp. cache=none and re-writing some guest
>> files to verify.
>>
>> /mjt
>>
> Either way, changing to cache=none I suspect wouldn't tell me much,
> because if it's as slow as before, it's still unusable and if instead
> it's even slower, well it'd be even more unusable, so I wouldn't be
> able to tell the difference.
Actually it's not that simple.
> What I can say for certain is that with
> the exact same virtual hd file, same options, same system, but on an
> ext3 fs there's no problem at all, on a Btrfs is not just slower, it
> takes ages.
It is exactly the same with ext4 vs ext3. But only on metadata-intensitive
operations (for qcow2 image). Once you allocate space, it becomes fast,
and _especially_ fast with cache=none. Actually, it looks like O_SYNC
(default cache mode) is _slower_ on ext4 than O_DIRECT (cache=none).
(And yes, I know O_DIRECT does NOT imply O_SYNC and vise versa).
/mjt
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From: Michael Tokarev <mjt@tls.msk.ru>
To: Giangiacomo Mariotti <gg.mariotti@gmail.com>
Cc: linux-fsdevel <linux-fsdevel@vger.kernel.org>,
linux-kernel@vger.kernel.org, qemu-devel <qemu-devel@nongnu.org>
Subject: [Qemu-devel] Re: BTRFS: Unbelievably slow with kvm/qemu
Date: Mon, 12 Jul 2010 17:40:50 +0400 [thread overview]
Message-ID: <4C3B1B62.3080900@msgid.tls.msk.ru> (raw)
In-Reply-To: <AANLkTim7A9teJtk5c1jh2g6mDv07HAi72d5S6WveL8Gp@mail.gmail.com>
Giangiacomo Mariotti wrote:
> On Mon, Jul 12, 2010 at 9:09 AM, Michael Tokarev <mjt@tls.msk.ru> wrote:
>> This looks quite similar to a problem with ext4 and O_SYNC which I
>> reported earlier but no one cared to answer (or read?) - there:
>> http://permalink.gmane.org/gmane.linux.file-systems/42758
>> (sent to qemu-devel and linux-fsdevel lists - Cc'd too). You can
>> try a few other options, esp. cache=none and re-writing some guest
>> files to verify.
>>
>> /mjt
>>
> Either way, changing to cache=none I suspect wouldn't tell me much,
> because if it's as slow as before, it's still unusable and if instead
> it's even slower, well it'd be even more unusable, so I wouldn't be
> able to tell the difference.
Actually it's not that simple.
> What I can say for certain is that with
> the exact same virtual hd file, same options, same system, but on an
> ext3 fs there's no problem at all, on a Btrfs is not just slower, it
> takes ages.
It is exactly the same with ext4 vs ext3. But only on metadata-intensitive
operations (for qcow2 image). Once you allocate space, it becomes fast,
and _especially_ fast with cache=none. Actually, it looks like O_SYNC
(default cache mode) is _slower_ on ext4 than O_DIRECT (cache=none).
(And yes, I know O_DIRECT does NOT imply O_SYNC and vise versa).
/mjt
next prev parent reply other threads:[~2010-07-12 13:40 UTC|newest]
Thread overview: 45+ messages / expand[flat|nested] mbox.gz Atom feed top
2010-07-12 5:24 BTRFS: Unbelievably slow with kvm/qemu Giangiacomo Mariotti
2010-07-12 5:54 ` Justin P. Mattock
2010-07-12 7:09 ` Michael Tokarev
2010-07-12 7:09 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael Tokarev
2010-07-12 7:17 ` Justin P. Mattock
2010-07-12 7:17 ` [Qemu-devel] " Justin P. Mattock
2010-07-12 13:15 ` Giangiacomo Mariotti
2010-07-12 13:15 ` [Qemu-devel] " Giangiacomo Mariotti
2010-07-12 13:15 ` Giangiacomo Mariotti
2010-07-12 13:34 ` Giangiacomo Mariotti
2010-07-12 13:34 ` [Qemu-devel] " Giangiacomo Mariotti
2010-07-12 13:34 ` Giangiacomo Mariotti
2010-07-12 13:40 ` Michael Tokarev [this message]
2010-07-12 13:40 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael Tokarev
2010-07-12 13:43 ` Josef Bacik
2010-07-12 13:43 ` [Qemu-devel] " Josef Bacik
2010-07-12 13:43 ` Josef Bacik
2010-07-12 13:42 ` Michael Tokarev
2010-07-12 13:42 ` [Qemu-devel] " Michael Tokarev
2010-07-12 13:49 ` Josef Bacik
2010-07-12 13:49 ` [Qemu-devel] " Josef Bacik
2010-07-12 20:23 ` Giangiacomo Mariotti
2010-07-12 20:23 ` [Qemu-devel] " Giangiacomo Mariotti
2010-07-12 20:23 ` Giangiacomo Mariotti
2010-07-12 20:24 ` Josef Bacik
2010-07-12 20:24 ` [Qemu-devel] " Josef Bacik
2010-07-13 8:53 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-07-13 8:53 ` Kevin Wolf
2010-07-13 4:29 ` Avi Kivity
2010-07-14 2:39 ` Giangiacomo Mariotti
2010-07-14 19:49 ` Christoph Hellwig
2010-07-17 5:29 ` Giangiacomo Mariotti
2010-07-17 10:28 ` Ted Ts'o
2010-07-18 7:15 ` Christoph Hellwig
-- strict thread matches above, loose matches on Subject: below --
2010-08-29 19:34 Tomasz Chmielewski
2010-08-30 0:14 ` Josef Bacik
2010-08-30 15:59 ` K. Richard Pixley
2010-08-31 21:46 ` Mike Fedyk
2010-08-31 21:46 ` Mike Fedyk
2010-08-31 22:01 ` K. Richard Pixley
[not found] ` <4C7D7B14.9020008@noir.com>
2010-09-02 0:18 ` Ted Ts'o
2010-09-02 16:36 ` K. Richard Pixley
2010-09-02 16:49 ` K. Richard Pixley
2010-09-02 16:49 ` K. Richard Pixley
2010-09-02 16:36 ` K. Richard Pixley
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