3d performance very low

3d performance very low

[Hanno Böck]

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Hi,

it seems I'm currently getting insanely slow 3d performance on my system. 
q3demo benchmark (run with ` to start console, timedemo 1, demo demo001) gives 
me 57 fps. I think even my old r200 got more than 100 there.

From the logs everything seems to be fine. Any ideas what I could look for 
what's wrong here?

kernel 2.6.34-rc6, xorg-server-1.8.2, xf86-video-intel-2.12.0,T61 laptop, card 
is
00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960 
Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0c)


dmesg says:
agpgart-intel 0000:00:00.0: Intel 965GM Chipset
agpgart-intel 0000:00:00.0: detected 7676K stolen memory
agpgart-intel 0000:00:00.0: AGP aperture is 256M @ 0xe0000000
[drm] Initialized drm 1.1.0 20060810
i915 0000:00:02.0: power state changed by ACPI to D0
i915 0000:00:02.0: power state changed by ACPI to D0
i915 0000:00:02.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 16 (level, low) -> IRQ 16
i915 0000:00:02.0: setting latency timer to 64
ACPI: Battery Slot [BAT0] (battery present)
i915 0000:00:02.0: irq 45 for MSI/MSI-X
[drm] set up 7M of stolen space
[drm] initialized overlay support
Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 175x65
fb0: inteldrmfb frame buffer device
drm: registered panic notifier
acpi device:01: registered as cooling_device2
input: Video Bus as 
/devices/LNXSYSTM:00/LNXSYBUS:00/PNP0A08:00/LNXVIDEO:00/input/input3
ACPI: Video Device [VID] (multi-head: yes  rom: no  post: no)
[drm] Initialized i915 1.6.0 20080730 for 0000:00:02.0 on minor 0

xorg log says:
[    24.079] (==) Depth 24 pixmap format is 32 bpp
[    24.079] (II) intel(0): [DRI2] Setup complete
[    24.079] (II) intel(0): [DRI2]   DRI driver: i965
[    24.079] (**) intel(0): Tiling enabled
[    24.079] (**) intel(0): SwapBuffers wait enabled
[    24.079] (==) intel(0): VideoRam: 262144 KB
[    24.079] (II) intel(0): Allocated new frame buffer 1408x1050 stride 5632, 
tiled
[    24.119] (II) UXA(0): Driver registered support for the following 
operations:
[    24.119] (II)         solid
[    24.119] (II)         copy
[    24.119] (II)         composite (RENDER acceleration)
[    24.119] (II)         put_image
[    24.119] (II)         get_image
[    24.119] (==) intel(0): Backing store disabled
[    24.119] (==) intel(0): Silken mouse enabled
[    24.119] (II) intel(0): Initializing HW Cursor
[    24.147] (II) intel(0): RandR 1.2 enabled, ignore the following RandR 
disabled message.
[    24.152] (==) intel(0): DPMS enabled
[    24.152] (==) intel(0): Intel XvMC decoder enabled
[    24.152] (II) intel(0): Set up textured video
[    24.152] (II) intel(0): Set up overlay video
[    24.152] (II) intel(0): [XvMC] i965_xvmc driver initialized.
[    24.152] (II) intel(0): direct rendering: DRI2 Enabled
[    24.152] (--) RandR disabled
[    24.152] (II) Initializing built-in extension Generic Event Extension
[    24.153] (II) Initializing built-in extension SHAPE
[    24.153] (II) Initializing built-in extension MIT-SHM
[    24.153] (II) Initializing built-in extension XInputExtension
[    24.153] (II) Initializing built-in extension XTEST
[    24.153] (II) Initializing built-in extension BIG-REQUESTS
[    24.153] (II) Initializing built-in extension SYNC
[    24.153] (II) Initializing built-in extension XKEYBOARD
[    24.153] (II) Initializing built-in extension XC-MISC
--
[    24.153] (II) Initializing built-in extension RENDER
[    24.153] (II) Initializing built-in extension RANDR
[    24.153] (II) Initializing built-in extension COMPOSITE
[    24.153] (II) Initializing built-in extension DAMAGE
[    24.430] (II) AIGLX: enabled GLX_MESA_copy_sub_buffer
[    24.430] (II) AIGLX: enabled GLX_INTEL_swap_event
[    24.430] (II) AIGLX: enabled GLX_SGI_swap_control and 
GLX_MESA_swap_control
[    24.430] (II) AIGLX: enabled GLX_SGI_make_current_read
[    24.430] (II) AIGLX: GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap backed by buffer objects
[    24.430] (II) AIGLX: Loaded and initialized /usr/lib64/dri/i965_dri.so
[    24.430] (II) GLX: Initialized DRI2 GL provider for screen 0


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Re: 3d performance very low

[Matt Turner]

On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 5:17 PM, Hanno Böck <hanno@hboeck.de> wrote:
> Hi,
>
> it seems I'm currently getting insanely slow 3d performance on my system.
> q3demo benchmark (run with ` to start console, timedemo 1, demo demo001) gives
> me 57 fps. I think even my old r200 got more than 100 there.
>
> From the logs everything seems to be fine. Any ideas what I could look for
> what's wrong here?
>
> kernel 2.6.34-rc6, xorg-server-1.8.2, xf86-video-intel-2.12.0,T61 laptop, card

The most important piece of software here is Mesa. What version of Mesa?

> is
> 00:02.0 VGA compatible controller: Intel Corporation Mobile GM965/GL960
> Integrated Graphics Controller (rev 0c)
>
>
> dmesg says:
> agpgart-intel 0000:00:00.0: Intel 965GM Chipset
> agpgart-intel 0000:00:00.0: detected 7676K stolen memory
> agpgart-intel 0000:00:00.0: AGP aperture is 256M @ 0xe0000000
> [drm] Initialized drm 1.1.0 20060810
> i915 0000:00:02.0: power state changed by ACPI to D0
> i915 0000:00:02.0: power state changed by ACPI to D0
> i915 0000:00:02.0: PCI INT A -> GSI 16 (level, low) -> IRQ 16
> i915 0000:00:02.0: setting latency timer to 64
> ACPI: Battery Slot [BAT0] (battery present)
> i915 0000:00:02.0: irq 45 for MSI/MSI-X
> [drm] set up 7M of stolen space
> [drm] initialized overlay support
> Console: switching to colour frame buffer device 175x65
> fb0: inteldrmfb frame buffer device
> drm: registered panic notifier
> acpi device:01: registered as cooling_device2
> input: Video Bus as
> /devices/LNXSYSTM:00/LNXSYBUS:00/PNP0A08:00/LNXVIDEO:00/input/input3
> ACPI: Video Device [VID] (multi-head: yes  rom: no  post: no)
> [drm] Initialized i915 1.6.0 20080730 for 0000:00:02.0 on minor 0
>
> xorg log says:
> [    24.079] (==) Depth 24 pixmap format is 32 bpp
> [    24.079] (II) intel(0): [DRI2] Setup complete
> [    24.079] (II) intel(0): [DRI2]   DRI driver: i965
> [    24.079] (**) intel(0): Tiling enabled
> [    24.079] (**) intel(0): SwapBuffers wait enabled
> [    24.079] (==) intel(0): VideoRam: 262144 KB
> [    24.079] (II) intel(0): Allocated new frame buffer 1408x1050 stride 5632,
> tiled
> [    24.119] (II) UXA(0): Driver registered support for the following
> operations:
> [    24.119] (II)         solid
> [    24.119] (II)         copy
> [    24.119] (II)         composite (RENDER acceleration)
> [    24.119] (II)         put_image
> [    24.119] (II)         get_image
> [    24.119] (==) intel(0): Backing store disabled
> [    24.119] (==) intel(0): Silken mouse enabled
> [    24.119] (II) intel(0): Initializing HW Cursor
> [    24.147] (II) intel(0): RandR 1.2 enabled, ignore the following RandR
> disabled message.
> [    24.152] (==) intel(0): DPMS enabled
> [    24.152] (==) intel(0): Intel XvMC decoder enabled
> [    24.152] (II) intel(0): Set up textured video
> [    24.152] (II) intel(0): Set up overlay video
> [    24.152] (II) intel(0): [XvMC] i965_xvmc driver initialized.
> [    24.152] (II) intel(0): direct rendering: DRI2 Enabled
> [    24.152] (--) RandR disabled
> [    24.152] (II) Initializing built-in extension Generic Event Extension
> [    24.153] (II) Initializing built-in extension SHAPE
> [    24.153] (II) Initializing built-in extension MIT-SHM
> [    24.153] (II) Initializing built-in extension XInputExtension
> [    24.153] (II) Initializing built-in extension XTEST
> [    24.153] (II) Initializing built-in extension BIG-REQUESTS
> [    24.153] (II) Initializing built-in extension SYNC
> [    24.153] (II) Initializing built-in extension XKEYBOARD
> [    24.153] (II) Initializing built-in extension XC-MISC
> --
> [    24.153] (II) Initializing built-in extension RENDER
> [    24.153] (II) Initializing built-in extension RANDR
> [    24.153] (II) Initializing built-in extension COMPOSITE
> [    24.153] (II) Initializing built-in extension DAMAGE
> [    24.430] (II) AIGLX: enabled GLX_MESA_copy_sub_buffer
> [    24.430] (II) AIGLX: enabled GLX_INTEL_swap_event
> [    24.430] (II) AIGLX: enabled GLX_SGI_swap_control and
> GLX_MESA_swap_control
> [    24.430] (II) AIGLX: enabled GLX_SGI_make_current_read
> [    24.430] (II) AIGLX: GLX_EXT_texture_from_pixmap backed by buffer objects
> [    24.430] (II) AIGLX: Loaded and initialized /usr/lib64/dri/i965_dri.so
> [    24.430] (II) GLX: Initialized DRI2 GL provider for screen 0
>
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Re: 3d performance very low

[Hanno Böck]

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Am Mittwoch 28 Juli 2010 schrieb Matt Turner:
> On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 5:17 PM, Hanno Böck <hanno@hboeck.de> wrote:
> > Hi,
> > 
> > it seems I'm currently getting insanely slow 3d performance on my system.
> > q3demo benchmark (run with ` to start console, timedemo 1, demo demo001)
> > gives me 57 fps. I think even my old r200 got more than 100 there.
> > 
> > From the logs everything seems to be fine. Any ideas what I could look
> > for what's wrong here?
> > 
> > kernel 2.6.34-rc6, xorg-server-1.8.2, xf86-video-intel-2.12.0,T61 laptop,
> > card
> 
> The most important piece of software here is Mesa. What version of Mesa?

Sorry, I forgot, latest 7.8.2.

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Re: 3d performance very low

[Tino Keitel]

On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 23:29:02 +0200, Hanno Böck wrote:
> Am Mittwoch 28 Juli 2010 schrieb Matt Turner:
> > On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 5:17 PM, Hanno Böck <hanno@hboeck.de> wrote:
> > > Hi,
> > > 
> > > it seems I'm currently getting insanely slow 3d performance on my system.
> > > q3demo benchmark (run with ` to start console, timedemo 1, demo demo001)
> > > gives me 57 fps. I think even my old r200 got more than 100 there.
> > > 
> > > From the logs everything seems to be fine. Any ideas what I could look
> > > for what's wrong here?
> > > 
> > > kernel 2.6.34-rc6, xorg-server-1.8.2, xf86-video-intel-2.12.0,T61 laptop,
> > > card
> > 
> > The most important piece of software here is Mesa. What version of Mesa?
> 
> Sorry, I forgot, latest 7.8.2.

When I tried Mesa 7.8 from Debian experimental I got stuttering 3D
output, at least in neverball and glxgears. I tried libdrm2 2.4.18,
2.4.21, kernel 2.6.34, 2.6.35-rc5, and the Intel driver 2.11 and 2.12,
without a change to the stuttering. The Xserver is 1.7.7. the FPS
output in glxgears was even higher than with Mesa 7.7, but it looked
ugly because of the stuttering. Do you have a chance to downgrade to
Mesa 7.7?

Regards,
Tino

Re: 3d performance very low

[Hanno Böck]

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Am Donnerstag 29 Juli 2010 schrieb Tino Keitel:
> When I tried Mesa 7.8 from Debian experimental I got stuttering 3D
> output, at least in neverball and glxgears. I tried libdrm2 2.4.18,
> 2.4.21, kernel 2.6.34, 2.6.35-rc5, and the Intel driver 2.11 and 2.12,
> without a change to the stuttering. The Xserver is 1.7.7. the FPS
> output in glxgears was even higher than with Mesa 7.7, but it looked
> ugly because of the stuttering. Do you have a chance to downgrade to
> Mesa 7.7?

Tried 7.7.1, no change in performance.

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Re: 3d performance very low

[Matt Turner]

On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Hanno Böck <hanno@hboeck.de> wrote:
> Am Donnerstag 29 Juli 2010 schrieb Tino Keitel:
>> When I tried Mesa 7.8 from Debian experimental I got stuttering 3D
>> output, at least in neverball and glxgears. I tried libdrm2 2.4.18,
>> 2.4.21, kernel 2.6.34, 2.6.35-rc5, and the Intel driver 2.11 and 2.12,
>> without a change to the stuttering. The Xserver is 1.7.7. the FPS
>> output in glxgears was even higher than with Mesa 7.7, but it looked
>> ugly because of the stuttering. Do you have a chance to downgrade to
>> Mesa 7.7?
>
> Tried 7.7.1, no change in performance.
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You're saying it's slow, but in relation to what? Were previous
versions faster, or is the comparison being made between hardware?

Matt

Re: 3d performance very low

[Paul Menzel]

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Am Donnerstag, den 29.07.2010, 12:24 -0400 schrieb Matt Turner:
> On Thu, Jul 29, 2010 at 11:15 AM, Hanno Böck <hanno@hboeck.de> wrote:
> > Am Donnerstag 29 Juli 2010 schrieb Tino Keitel:
> >> When I tried Mesa 7.8 from Debian experimental I got stuttering 3D
> >> output, at least in neverball and glxgears. I tried libdrm2 2.4.18,
> >> 2.4.21, kernel 2.6.34, 2.6.35-rc5, and the Intel driver 2.11 and 2.12,
> >> without a change to the stuttering. The Xserver is 1.7.7. the FPS
> >> output in glxgears was even higher than with Mesa 7.7, but it looked
> >> ugly because of the stuttering. Do you have a chance to downgrade to
> >> Mesa 7.7?
> >
> > Tried 7.7.1, no change in performance.
> 
> You're saying it's slow, but in relation to what? Were previous
> versions faster, or is the comparison being made between hardware?

In his original post he wrote that his old r200 card was faster in the
q3demo benchmark [1].


Thanks,

Paul


[1] http://lists.freedesktop.org/archives/intel-gfx/2010-July/007538.html

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Re: 3d performance very low

[Philipp Klaus Krause]

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Am 29.07.2010 18:24, schrieb Matt Turner:
> You're saying it's slow, but in relation to what? Were previous
> versions faster, or is the comparison being made between hardware?

Well I see the same problem here, using

OpenGL renderer string: Mesa DRI Intel(R) 965GM GEM 20100328 2010Q1
OpenGL version string: 2.1 Mesa 7.8.2

I get stuttering when scrolling in warzone2100. I've been using the same
hardware for years, and the problem appeared some time this month, AFAIR
around the time I upgraded Mesa from 7.7 to 7.8, but it could have some
other cause.

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Re: 3d performance very low

[Rémi Cardona]

Le 28/07/2010 23:17, Hanno Böck a écrit :
> Hi,
> 
> it seems I'm currently getting insanely slow 3d performance on my system. 
> q3demo benchmark (run with ` to start console, timedemo 1, demo demo001) gives 
> me 57 fps. I think even my old r200 got more than 100 there.
> 
> From the logs everything seems to be fine. Any ideas what I could look for 
> what's wrong here?

Sounds like you're hitting the vsync limit. I wouldn't know on my old
855 since no game/3D app ever gets close to 60fps anyway.

Try comparing with glxgears: if it yields 60fps, then it's the vsync. If
it's some other frame rate, then never mind.

Cheers,

Rémi
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Re: 3d performance very low

[Camassa Valerio]

  Hi,
i have the same problems with 2.11 and 2.12 intel driver and mesa 7.8. 
In 3D application i have annoying stuttering and in glxgears (and others 
3d application) i don't obtain more than 60fps (i think is active 
vsync). The stuttering problem is mitigated with mesa 7.9 (but is not 
solved), the vsync problem is solved with downgrade to 2.10 drivers and 
i would to say how can i disable vsync in new driver? i watched the 
configure compile options of mesa and drv-intel packages, but i didn't 
find anything.
I use Fedora 13 Amd64.

Greetings.

Re: 3d performance very low

[Owain Ainsworth]

On Wed, Jul 28, 2010 at 11:17:30PM +0200, Hanno B??ck wrote:
> Hi,
> 
> it seems I'm currently getting insanely slow 3d performance on my system. 
> q3demo benchmark (run with ` to start console, timedemo 1, demo demo001) gives 
> me 57 fps. I think even my old r200 got more than 100 there.

I'll happily bet that you have a screen refresh rate of 60hz.

Your rendering is synchronized to vertical blank of your screen. Move
along, nothing to see here.

IIRC the patch that meant mesa take heed of the vblank_mode environment
variable was not in 7.8.2, but may be found in git as commits:
234286c0f8b7d30ed49223c648d4c73c1a517ab3 and
45e2b51c853471b79004a954ce3092a253b20b77

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Re: 3d performance very low

[Sven Arvidsson]

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On Fri, 2010-07-30 at 15:20 +0200, Camassa Valerio wrote:
> the vsync problem is solved with downgrade to 2.10 drivers and 
> i would to say how can i disable vsync in new driver? i watched the 
> configure compile options of mesa and drv-intel packages, but i didn't 
> find anything.

It's not a compile-time option. Set the environment variable vblank_mode
to 0 to disable vsync, like so:

 $ vblank_mode=0 glxgears

Or set it with the driconf tool.

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Re: 3d performance very low

[Valerio Camassa]

  I tried to change vblank_mode with driconf and with set param 
vblank_mode, but i obtain the same fps with 2.11 and 2.12 drivers:
> 311 frames in 5.0 seconds = 62.175 FPS

With 2.12 glxgears rates ~700FPS.

Re: 3d performance very low

[Valerio Camassa]

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  Ops, It's with with 2.10 i obtain ~700FPS, i mistyped, sorry.
>    I tried to change vblank_mode with driconf and with set param
> vblank_mode, but i obtain the same fps with 2.11 and 2.12 drivers:
> >/  311 frames in 5.0 seconds = 62.175 FPS
> /
> With 2.12 glxgears rates ~700FPS.

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Re: 3d performance very low

[Geir Ove Myhr]

On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 10:36 AM, Valerio Camassa <valerio993@gmail.com> wrote:
>  I tried to change vblank_mode with driconf and with set param vblank_mode,
> but i obtain the same fps with 2.11 and 2.12 drivers:
>>
>> 311 frames in 5.0 seconds = 62.175 FPS
>
> With 2.12 glxgears rates ~700FPS.

Look, as Owain pointed out there is no vsync problem - it's a feature.
Why would you want glxgears to produce 700 images per second when your
monitor is only updated 60 times a second?

Geir Ove

Re: 3d performance very low

[Paul Menzel]

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Am Samstag, den 31.07.2010, 10:36 +0200 schrieb Valerio Camassa:
> I tried to change vblank_mode with driconf and with set param 
> vblank_mode, but i obtain the same fps with 2.11 and 2.12 drivers:
> > 311 frames in 5.0 seconds = 62.175 FPS
> 
> With 2.12 glxgears rates ~700FPS.

62.175 FPS ≠ 700 FPS

Why do you write it is the same?


Thanks,

Paul

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Re: 3d performance very low

[Valerio Camassa]

> 62.175 FPS ≠ 700 FPS
>
> Why do you write it is the same?
>
>
> Thanks,
>
> Paul


Sorry, I wrote, soon after, that I mistyped. Is with 2.10 that glxgears 
rates ~700fps. With 2.11 and 2.12 rates ~60fps.
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Re: 3d performance very low

[Robert Hooker]

On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 4:36 AM, Valerio Camassa <valerio993@gmail.com> wrote:
>  I tried to change vblank_mode with driconf and with set param vblank_mode,
> but i obtain the same fps with 2.11 and 2.12 drivers:
>>
>> 311 frames in 5.0 seconds = 62.175 FPS
>
> With 2.12 glxgears rates ~700FPS.
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You need to add a seperate dri2 device to .drirc for vblank_mode to
work there, driconf doesn't work right


    <device screen="0" driver="dri2">
        <application name="Default">
            <option name="vblank_mode" value="0" />
        </application>
    </device>

my full ~/.drirc for example


<driconf>
    <device screen="0" driver="dri2">
        <application name="Default">
            <option name="vblank_mode" value="0" />
        </application>
    </device>
    <device screen="0" driver="i915">
        <application name="Default">
            <option name="force_s3tc_enable" value="false" />
            <option name="no_rast" value="false" />
            <option name="always_flush_cache" value="false" />
            <option name="stub_occlusion_query" value="false" />
            <option name="always_flush_batch" value="false" />
            <option name="bo_reuse" value="1" />
            <option name="texture_tiling" value="true" />
            <option name="early_z" value="false" />
            <option name="allow_large_textures" value="2" />
            <option name="fragment_shader" value="false" />
        </application>
    </device>
</driconf>
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Re: 3d performance very low

[Valerio Camassa]

  I tried to change .drirc to add the xml for dri2 but glxgears still 
rating ~60FPS. Also with "$ vblank_mode=0 glxgears" it rates ~60FPS.

Il 01/08/2010 17:26, Robert Hooker ha scritto:
> On Sat, Jul 31, 2010 at 4:36 AM, Valerio Camassa<valerio993@gmail.com>  wrote:
>>   I tried to change vblank_mode with driconf and with set param vblank_mode,
>> but i obtain the same fps with 2.11 and 2.12 drivers:
>>> 311 frames in 5.0 seconds = 62.175 FPS
>> With 2.12 glxgears rates ~700FPS.
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> You need to add a seperate dri2 device to .drirc for vblank_mode to
> work there, driconf doesn't work right
>
>
>      <device screen="0" driver="dri2">
>          <application name="Default">
>              <option name="vblank_mode" value="0" />
>          </application>
>      </device>
>
> my full ~/.drirc for example
>
>
> <driconf>
>      <device screen="0" driver="dri2">
>          <application name="Default">
>              <option name="vblank_mode" value="0" />
>          </application>
>      </device>
>      <device screen="0" driver="i915">
>          <application name="Default">
>              <option name="force_s3tc_enable" value="false" />
>              <option name="no_rast" value="false" />
>              <option name="always_flush_cache" value="false" />
>              <option name="stub_occlusion_query" value="false" />
>              <option name="always_flush_batch" value="false" />
>              <option name="bo_reuse" value="1" />
>              <option name="texture_tiling" value="true" />
>              <option name="early_z" value="false" />
>              <option name="allow_large_textures" value="2" />
>              <option name="fragment_shader" value="false" />
>          </application>
>      </device>
> </driconf>
>